A name for everthing, a contest!

[joepistole]

It seems the word universe has shrunken considerably over the course of the last several decades. It used to mean everything, include everything. We now think that there is much more than a single universe and structures larger than universes.

After confirming this morning with our resident physicist that there he knows of no such word, I think we have an opportunity at Sciforums to define a word which includes everthing inside and outside the known universe.

So go forth Sciforumers and put forth your ideas and suggestion for a name that describes all things in and outside our universe.

[John99]

It can only be Interuniversal and Intrauniversal. As far as i know it may be used already.

[orcot]

The cosmic hot dog?

It can contain literally everything

[one_raven]

I vote for:

Universe

[cosmictraveler]

Multiverse or qusiverse

[joepistole]

I am kind of thinking Interuniversal and Intrauniversal is a bit long. And we are talking about more than just universes. So I am thinking mabe something as simple as the Q borrowing from Star Trek.

[tostig]

It's still "universe" except that our concept of universe must change to encompass what we previously had thought was THE "universe". Some cosmologists consider our current concept of the universe to be only one of many multiverses - a term I don't like.

[draqon]

I vote for: existence

to include all multiverses and beyond...

[Harro]

I often use the word Cosmos.

What’s wrong with saying multiverse or multi-universe? I find it adequate when talking about multiple universes within the same cosmology theory. It rolls of the tongue like multigasmic, instead of using the drawn out unsaxy phrase, a multiple tendency to be orgasmic :)

[Enmos]

Universe still means everything. I'm going with universe.

[phlogistician]

Another vote for Universe, and a fresh motion to kick everyone in the nutsack who tries to diminish it's meaning.

[tablariddim]

Weapon used to mean a rock or a stick, then it also used to mean a sword or a spear. Nowadays there is a multitude of things that can correctly be called weapons, so with respect to that the universe will always be the universe, which simply means...EVERYTHING.

[cosmictraveler]

Infiniverse or veriverse.

[Fraggle Rocker]

So I am thinking mabe something as simple as the Q, borrowing from Star Trek.Q was a creature. The "place" of his origin was called "The Q Continuum."Multiverse or quasiverseThe first time I encountered the word "multiverse" in science fiction, it concerned probability and time travel. If you could alter the outcome of a random event in the past, you could change the course of history and the universe would be different. (The Butterfly Effect, although in sci fi they played pretty loosely with it.)

But there was still only one universe in existence at any moment. They found a way to record their changes and the effects they brought about, and were even able to pop in and out of various states of the universe while retaining their memories of the original state from which they started. (Fast and loose, as I said.) Nonetheless, there was only one universe in existence at any moment.

The "multiverse" was the entire set of possible universes. All but one of them were abstractions that did not exist.

[Cyperium]

It seems the word universe has shrunken considerably over the course of the last several decades. It used to mean everything, include everything. We now think that there is much more than a single universe and structures larger than universes.

After confirming this morning with our resident physicist that there he knows of no such word, I think we have an opportunity at Sciforums to define a word which includes everthing inside and outside the known universe.

So go forth Sciforumers and put forth your ideas and suggestion for a name that describes all things in and outside our universe.Why not cosmos?

[joepistole]

Yeah, I like cosmos. That seems more descriptive.

[draqon]

cosmos in some languages means smaller than universe. In Russian language that is.

[S.A.M.]

I like cosmos too.

In its most general sense, a cosmos is an orderly or harmonious system. It originates from a Greek term κόσμος meaning "order, orderly arrangement, ornaments," and is the antithetical concept of chaos.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmos

[OilIsMastery]

Universe still means everything as far I'm concerned.

[draqon]

but chaos is also universe...

[Simon Anders]

Some suggestions:

The be all and end all

Etc.

The largest set.

This.

Stuff from which nothing is excluded.

[S.A.M.]

Thats a phrase, not a name. :poke:

[Simon Anders]

which one?

certainly 'this'

is not a phrase.

which is my personal favorite and the most accurate of all the 'names' so far.

[Enmos]

Simon, your descriptions above are definitions of "Universe".

[Simon Anders]

Universe means ' all together'

It is just another phrase, lumped into a compound word

and certainly no better than mine.

I take offense. I walk off in a huff. I snub. Beware.

[Simon Anders]

Everybody gets all dreamy eyed when the word is in latin, even though that just means it's an idea stolen by the colonialist Roman Empire from Greeks or Egyptians. The former in this case, universe tracing back to holon (the root of whole) a Greek word.

Holon does have a nice ring to it.

That is my next suggestion.

[Enmos]

Universe means ' all together'

It is just another phrase, lumped into a compound word

and certainly no better than mine.

I take offense. I walk off in a huff. I snub. Beware.

You 'phrases' have the same meaning as the word "Universe". And you agreed here, so why change the word ?

[Simon Anders]

(W)hole.

[Enmos]

All.

[Simon Anders]

You 'phrases' have the same meaning as the word "Universe". And you agreed here, so why change the word ?

I never agreed to any such thing. A word meaning 'all together' leaves out those things that are not together. All seems rather not so together.

All together has assumptions that 'this', ah the elegance of it, does not.

[Simon Anders]

All.Now you're talking. Run with it. People get all hot and bothered if they get an asteroid named after them. Imagine being the one who names

kit and kaboodle

what is

.......

[Simon Anders]

More suggestions:

Shebangwhole

The aggregate

the works

the includable

[Enmos]

I never agreed to any such thing. A word meaning 'all together' leaves out those things that are not together. All seems rather not so together.

All together has assumptions that 'this', ah the elegance of it, does not.

Universe means 'all in one' if I'm not mistaken, which is good enough for me. Besides the original meaning of the word is usually not that important, it's what they have become to mean, or what they are meant to describe.

[Enmos]

Panton

[Simon Anders]

Universe means 'all in one' if I'm not mistaken, which is good enough for me. Besides the original meaning of the word is usually not that important, it's what they have become to mean, or what they are meant to describe.But here we are in the middle of time, just like those nasty Romans, and we can come up with a new term. One that is more catchy or profound. Just as the original meaning is not important - however much it, in this case, undermines the objections to my little gems - so the original word is not important.

Here's a question: is the past part of the universe?

If not then another possible one is

The Present

[Simon Anders]

Panton
I am humbled. And I love the root 'pan' and not for the briefest of instants considered it. My hat is off. I bow. I nod. I yield the floor.

[Enmos]

But here we are in the middle of time, just like those nasty Romans, and we can come up with a new term. One that is more catchy or profound. Just as the original meaning is not important - however much it, in this case, undermines the objections to my little gems - so the original word is not important.

Here's a question: is the past part of the universe?

If not then another possible one is

The Present

Time is not part of the equation. The past does not exist, nor does the future. One could even argue that the present doesn't exist.

All In One :D

I kinda like "Panton" though..

[Enmos]

I am humbled. And I love the root 'pan' and not for the briefest of instants considered it. My hat is off. I bow. I nod. I yield the floor.

lol you know it :D

"Panton" it is.

[S.A.M.]

Humph. Panton Pantoff Panting. :bugeye:

[Enmos]

Humph. Panton Pantoff Panting. :bugeye:

Wøt ?

[quantum_wave]

I like the term "greater universe" to mean the observable universe plus what ever else is beyond.

[Fraggle Rocker]

Definitions of "Universe" from dictionary.com:Everything that exists anywhere The cosmos The totality of known or supposed objects and phenomena throughout space The totality of matter, energy, and space, including the Solar System, the galaxies, and the contents of the space between the galaxiesEtymology: Latin universus, "all together," literally "turned into one," from unus, "one," + versus, "turned," past participle of vertere, "to turn."

[Enmos]

Exactly, so the word "Universe" will do just fine.

[cosmictraveler]

42!

[joepistole]

Definitions of "Universe" from dictionary.com:Everything that exists anywhere The cosmos The totality of known or supposed objects and phenomena throughout space The totality of matter, energy, and space, including the Solar System, the galaxies, and the contents of the space between the galaxiesEtymology: Latin universus, "all together," literally "turned into one," from unus, "one," + versus, "turned," past participle of vertere, "to turn."

So if Universe means everything, then what do we call what we now call a universe?

[Simon Anders]

Definitions of "Universe" from dictionary.com:Everything that exists anywhere The cosmos The totality of known or supposed objects and phenomena throughout space The totality of matter, energy, and space, including the Solar System, the galaxies, and the contents of the space between the galaxiesEtymology: Latin universus, "all together," literally "turned into one," from unus, "one," + versus, "turned," past participle of vertere, "to turn." [emphasis added]
Enmos:
Exactly, so the word "Universe" will do just fine.
Au contraire.....

'turned into one' is misleading. It sounds like some sort of process took a lot of disparate things and these were transformed into one thing, when in fact THE OPPOSITE is much more likely.

[Simon Anders]

So if Universe means everything, then what do we call what we now call a universe?
Universe + it's name.
Oops, now we have to add another term....