Absurdities Of Religion

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

For listing of absurdities & questioning whether theists actually believe them & practice them.

I certainly don't intend to be mean. but it's nigh impossible to discuss these things without seeming to mock & nearly as difficult not to actually fall into a mocking mood. Plenty of theists mock atheists & religions other than theirs much nastier than I've seen from atheists. At least I have logic behind me rather than faith.
Try telling a mechanic autos actually don't run on gasoline. The gasoline disappears as divine spirits make the parts move. Because The Holy Babble says so.
If the sun stood still, as the Holy Babble says, primitive people wouldn't have noticed it a bit.
The Holy Babble says Earth has 4 corners, there was a day before the sun or Earth were created, in some cases a rape victim should be forced to marry her attacker, people should suffer horribly for eternity simply for believing the "wrong" thing, menstruation is a sickness, a man with defective genitals can't enter the temple, go ye therefore into the world & preach the gospel to every CREATURE, etc etc


How many theists preach to animals?

[JDawg]

Further proof that many of the moral lessons taught in the Bible are utter shit, and also further proof that people use a moral compass beyond their religion; they would have to in order to filter this shit out!

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

The book of revelation truly must have been written by someone on drugs.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 KJV

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

[PsychoticEpisode]

Some of Christianity's Satanic Verses, how'd they get in there?

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Whom Yahweh would have follow it, 1st it drives mad.

[PsychoticEpisode]

Whom Yahweh would have follow it, 1st it drives mad.

?????? Not sure what you're saying here. Words missing?

[CheskiChips]

Way to make another retarded no content thread. We need more of those in religion forum!

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

And thanks for your support.

[Medicine*Woman]

Way to make another retarded no content thread. We need more of those in religion forum!
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M*W: Since your religious beliefs are etched in stone, and no one wants to take them away from you, why are you so offended by other religious and/or non-religious posts? I question why you even came to the Religion forum.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

?????? Not sure what you're saying here. Words missing?

I'm putting a twist on the old saying : Whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Witches, homosexuals & disobedient children should be stoned to death.
Slavery is OK.
Men shouldn't marry unless they just can't control their lust.
It was good for a bear to maul children who mocked a prophet.

[superluminal]

1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day

...

1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day

WTF?

He had day and night and evening and morning on the first day but didn't make the sun or stars till day four???

What sort of loon wrote this shit? It makes no sense with or without some god thingy involved.

[Roman]

WTF?

He had day and night and evening and morning on the first day but didn't make the sun or stars till day four???

What sort of loon wrote this shit? It makes no sense with or without some god thingy involved.

Yeah, Genesis is full of inconsistency. Biblical scholars say it's due to the combination of two or more versions into one.

[CheskiChips]

WTF?

He had day and night and evening and morning on the first day but didn't make the sun or stars till day four???

What sort of loon wrote this shit? It makes no sense with or without some god thingy involved.

That's not what it says in Hebrew.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

If god wanted us to read it in Hebrew, it would've made it grow on trees.

[CheskiChips]

If god wanted us to read it in Hebrew, it would've made it grow on trees.

Dear dreykop;

I'm saying the source text didn't have contradictions, which is the only definitive way to cite contradictions.

Yours truly;
orntlekh CheskiChips.

[Medicine*Woman]

That's not what it says in Hebrew.
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M*W: Then why was it changed so drastically?

I agree... all of us really need to know exactly what it says in Hebrew before we challenge it.

The christian babble has bastardized the Torah.

[Medicine*Woman]

That's not what it says in Hebrew.
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M*W: So tell us, what does it actually say in Hebrew?

[Medicine*Woman]

If god wanted us to read it in Hebrew, it would've made it grow on trees.
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M*W: I agree. If there was a god, and the Jewish people were the chosen, then one would think that we'd all be speaking Hebrew. Wouldn't he/she/it?

The fact that I want to know as much as possible about religion, you'd think a god would have had me speaking Hebrew.

Fact is, I took Hebrew lessons for a time when I lived in Germany. I just want to be able to read the original and the truth. I have a question, though, even if I learned the Hebrew language, how could this prove it was actually the truth?

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Dear dreykop;

I'm saying the source text didn't have contradictions, which is the only definitive way to cite contradictions.

Yours truly;
orntlekh CheskiChips.

I don't have the time or resources for that & I'm not taking your word for it.
Contradictions are only part of the problem.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough with my satire. If there is an omnipotent god who wants me to know it exists, it's not my responsibility. It's the god who should inform me. If it wants me to know what was originally written in the Holy Babble, it should inform me. Otherwise it doesn't want me to know.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

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M*W: I agree. If there was a god, and the Jewish people were the chosen, then one would think that we'd all be speaking Hebrew. Wouldn't he/she/it?

The fact that I want to know as much as possible about religion, you'd think a god would have had me speaking Hebrew.

Fact is, I took Hebrew lessons for a time when I lived in Germany. I just want to be able to read the original and the truth. I have a question, though, even if I learned the Hebrew language, how could this prove it was actually the truth?

I really know the god of the Holy Babble cannot exist because it's too contradictory.
I really know that if an omnipotent god exists & wants me to know, it's not up to me to find out.
I really know I couldn't be happy for eternity if others are suffering.
I really know making or letting someone suffer for eternity is as sicko sadistic as can be.
I really know the Holy Babble is the worst moral authority I can imagine.
I really know that if we require a cause for the universe, we must require a cause for that also.
I really know requiring worship is very immature.
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[Simon Anders]

I don't have the time or resources for that & I'm not taking your word for it.
Contradictions are only part of the problem.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough with my satire. If there is an omnipotent god who wants me to know it exists, it's not my responsibility. It's the god who should inform me. If it wants me to know what was originally written in the Holy Babble, it should inform me. Otherwise it doesn't want me to know.
So everyone who wishes you would 'get' something - I mean people who wish this - assume it is only their responsibility to get you to 'get' it? And they always use ALL their skills to get you to get these things?

There could be no possible reason for them not meeting you THE WHOLE way.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

So everyone who wishes you would 'get' something - I mean people who wish this - assume it is only their responsibility to get you to 'get' it? And they always use ALL their skills to get you to get these things?

There could be no possible reason for them not meeting you THE WHOLE way.

Is this a joke?

[Simon Anders]

Is this a joke?Is this an argument?

[phlogistician]

There could be no possible reason for them not meeting you THE WHOLE way.

Them who?

I thought the point was quite clear. If God wanted to tell us something, he'd tell us, and not rely on distorted hand me down fables.

Which God would that be anyway, the God of the OT, or the different God that JC describes, 'cos they certainly are not the same.

[Simon Anders]

Them who?People who wish him (or her) to understand, 'get' something. It is there in the post.

I thought the point was quite clear. If God wanted to tell us something, he'd tell us, and not rely on distorted hand me down fables.So you know how a God would act if there was one. Interesting.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Charlie Harper : I believe in a loving god who forgives white lies as long as they lead to great sex.

[Roman]

Them who?

I thought the point was quite clear. If God wanted to tell us something, he'd tell us, and not rely on distorted hand me down fables.

Why?

[Simon Anders]

Why?
Because he knows how a God would act if one existed. Though he does not believe one does, he thinks he knows what is possible were one to be.

It really is quite a claim. I would put it right up there with any theist claim.

A theist claims what is.
And he is claiming to know what a God would have to be like if one existed.

[Roman]

Because he knows how a God would act if one existed. Though he does not believe one does, he thinks he knows what is possible were one to be.

That doesn't seem very reasonable.

What if God really gets off on watching us struggle?

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Stranger : It rained in Pittsburgh this morning.
Simon : Can you show any evidence it snowed in Houston last night?

[phlogistician]

So you know how a God would act if there was one. Interesting.

Ah, are you on some 'God works in mysterious ways' cop out?

God allegedly made man in his own image. I'm a man. If I want someone to know something, I tell them. Ergo, it's reasonable to assume God should tell people also.

How does that fly, pilgrim?

Now, you try and explain why, if God wanted someone to know something, he wouldn't tell them!

[Simon Anders]

Ah, are you on some 'God works in mysterious ways' cop out?No. I am pointing out that you are making a strong claim that God would act in certain ways.

God allegedly made man in his own image. I'm a man. If I want someone to know something, I tell them. Ergo, it's reasonable to assume God should tell people also. I will put forward at least one example where humans do not use all their power to 'get a message across to someone'. I will not be doing this as an explanation for what God is doing. I use the example to point out that your proof is weak.

Earlier Stranger mentioned that God was omnipotent. Iow, he could get that information inside us regardless of any resistence or stupidity on our parts due to God's omnipotence.

In the context of the argument, which you took up, this assumes that God will always use all of his power to 'get information into people's minds (or hearts'.

I see examples around me where people do not do this. Sometimes they wait for others to arrive at conclusions after, for example, one stab at explaining to them. Sometimes they want the others to learn for themselves and feel miffed they can't get the obvious - I notice this pattern in marriages quite a lot. In teaching situations sometimes teachers present problem contexts or written out problems and do not explain how to get to the solution or even how to go about getting all the necessary information - this is very common in PBL, problem based learning.

I also know that I personally do not use all of my power and skills in all situations where I want other people would 'get' something.

Hence I see enough situations with humans, to be NOT SO SURE that God might have motivations or other wishes that mean that God does not use all of his omnipotence in all situations in relation to all specifics.

Notice very carefully what he said here:
Maybe I wasn't clear enough with my satire. If there is an omnipotent god who wants me to know it exists, it's not my responsibility. It's the god who should inform me. If it wants me to know what was originally written in the Holy Babble, it should inform me. Otherwise it doesn't want me to know. (my emphasis) You are joining a line where he is making this case. This reminds me of many mundane situations where people believe it is someone else's responsibility to, as I said above in response to him, meet them the Whole way, rather than half way. I think many people refuse to do this. They often see the other person, in a wide variety of contexts, as being resistant and showing no willingness to go go half way. In these contexts people often do not use all of their power and skills to convince or explain to the other person. Even though they wish the other person could get it. (this is one possible analogy that opens the door to God not necessarily acting in the way you think God must. I actually believe there are other reasons involved, but they do not fit with a Christian context at all, me not being Christian.)

You seem sure that God must use all of his power in every situation. This is a strong claim to authority on your part. (Are you going to retract, by the way, your claims to authority over the meaning of the word 'atheist'? or, at least, admit that some of your claims about the history of the word's use were made up?)

[Simon Anders]

Stranger : It rained in Pittsburgh this morning.
Simon : Can you show any evidence it snowed in Houston last night?

If you really cannot understand what I said to you try reading my response to Phlogiston above. I made no argument like this.
You are both claiming that God must act in certain ways if God exists, despite examples around you where people do not use all their power to explain things to other people. As one possible problem with your proof.

[Simon Anders]

That doesn't seem very reasonable.

What if God really gets off on watching us struggle? Sure, an OT God could certainly have that attitude. Not sure how many Christians and Jews are willing to take that line, but to me the OT would leave open that possibility.

[azriel]

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M*W: I agree. If there was a god, and the Jewish people were the chosen, then one would think that we'd all be speaking Hebrew. Wouldn't he/she/it?

The fact that I want to know as much as possible about religion, you'd think a god would have had me speaking Hebrew.

Fact is, I took Hebrew lessons for a time when I lived in Germany. I just want to be able to read the original and the truth. I have a question, though, even if I learned the Hebrew language, how could this prove it was actually the truth?

Truth is in the conception. A christian believes that everything came into being in six days, which is utter nonsense but to God a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like a day. Don't get hung up on the number to God a thousand years is like 15 minutes and a day, 10,000 years, he isn't bound by time. There's many things about christianity that are utterly ridiculous but don't forget it was written by man, God's stupidest creation. The greatest stupidity is that a loving God would condemn a whole world for eating an apple. There's not enough room to explain it all to you and I would encounter a whole birrage of criticism and attack. God's name is not Jehovah, yehweh, Allah, Poobah or anything else that this society has come up with and the Chist's name was not Jesus and his last name certainly isn't Christ which is why the christian god is a useless god, the Islamic god is an evil god, and no other god even warrants commenting on.

[phlogistician]

OK, Simon, so you were using a cop out argument.

[Simon Anders]

OK, Simon, so you were using a cop out argument.That was lazy. And certainly not using all your powers and skills to convince me of some truth. Another mundane example.
1) I pointed out non-mysterious alternative explantions. I pointed out situations where people do not 'tell'. In fact it is getting vastly more popular as a pedogogical method not to tell, but rather to place children, and adults at university level, in situations where they must find answers themselves.
2) You are making the claim that God, if there was one, would act like you. Back that one up.

I notice that you make claims
1) atheism is a word that meant people who lack a belief in God but then recently the fundies changed the meaning
2) if there was a God this is how he would act.

as if you are an authority on these things. What you think is obvious does not need backing up, even if, in the former case, relevent authorities disagree with your view of things: Dictionaries, etymologists, etc.

Now you want to say exactly how God must act if God exists.

I do not accept you as an authority and I find your laziness and lack of candor about your own mistakes make discussing things with you worthless. And if you come up with excuses for what I am calling your laziness, notice how they back up my claim that your assumptions about God's necessary process are NOT backed up by human behavior, even yours.

You are on ignore.

[phlogistician]

On ignore because you have to bury your head in the sand, Simon.

You are vague when you want to be, and pedantic when it suits you.

Prove your pro position, or resign the debate. The ball is in your court.

[Roman]

Sure, an OT God could certainly have that attitude. Not sure how many Christians and Jews are willing to take that line, but to me the OT would leave open that possibility.

N-1 Gods could have that attitude.

[Roman]

God allegedly made man in his own image. I'm a man. If I want someone to know something, I tell them. Ergo, it's reasonable to assume God should tell people also.

Raven didn't make man in his own image.
I see no reason why this should be a true statement, save if you were arguing with Christians.

Logically, your argument holds up when describing a few select concepts of a god.

[phlogistician]

Logically, your argument holds up when describing a few select concepts of a god.

There's the problem I have though, with theists being so vague, it's hard to get them to say anything of substance which can be debated. All they rely on is 'you can't prove X isn't true', as if being uncertain proves something else.

No, I can't disprove a whole bunch of stuff, but that is the whole point of the FSM thought experiment, or the Celestial Teapot. It is possible to describe a whole bunch of things we can't disprove, but it doesn't make anything more likely than the other.

I find it amazing how theists start apologising with ifs, buts, and maybes, and then get definite and start worshipping a God they fail to define adequately.

It's dishonest, but worst of all, they know it is, and are kidding themselves.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

'Absurd Religion' Show Picks Up 4 Emmy Nominations

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080912/-absurd-religion-show-picks-up-4-emmy-nominations.htm

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Fred Waldron Phelps, Sr. (born November 13, 1929) is an anti-homosexual American pastor of the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC), an independent Baptist church in Topeka, Kansas.[1][2][3][4][5][6] He is a disbarred lawyer, founder of the Phelps Chartered law firm and failed candidate for political office. He is known for preaching with slogans and banners denoting phrases such as "Don't Pray for the USA", "Thank God for 9/11", "Thank God for Katrina", "Thank God for Dead Soldiers", "America Is Doomed", "God Hates Fags", "AIDS Cures Fags", "God Is Your Enemy", "Too Late to Pray", "God Hates You", and "Fags Die, God Laughs (or Mocks)", and claims that God will punish homosexuals as well as people such as Bill O'Reilly, Coretta Scott King, Ronald Reagan, and Howard Dean, whom his church considers "fag-enablers".[7][8] He has also thanked God for the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and the 2005 flooding of James Bay in central Canada.[9]

Phelps and his followers frequently picket various events, especially military funerals, gay pride gatherings, high-profile political gatherings, and even Christian gatherings and concerts with which he has no affiliation, arguing it is their sacred duty to warn others of God's anger. When criticized, Phelps' followers say they are protected in doing so by the First Amendment.[10][11] In response to Phelps' protests at military funerals, President Bush signed the Respect for America's Fallen Heroes Act into law in May 2006,[12] and, in April 2007, Kansas governor Kathleen Sebelius signed into law a bill establishing a 150 foot no-picketing buffer zone around funerals.[13]

Phelps says that he is a preacher who believes that homosexuality and its acceptance have doomed most of the world to eternal damnation. The church at Westboro which he leads has 71 confirmed members, 60 of whom are related to Phelps through blood or marriage or both.[citation needed]

The group is built around a core of anti-homosexual theology, with many of their activities stemming from the slogan "God hates fags," which is also the name of the group's main website. Gay rights activists, as well as Christians of virtually every denomination, have denounced him as a producer of anti-gay propaganda and violence-inspiring hate speech

Phelps was cited by the Anti-Defamation League for his numerous anti-semitic comments:[39] On General Wesley Clark and John Kerry (of Jewish descent):

“ His Christ-rejecting, God-hating Jew blood bubbled to the surface. Yes, like his boss [John] Kerry, Clark is a Jew... That these two turds are Jews would not matter—except when they ask for supreme political power and spit in the Face of God, pushing for same-sex marriage, threatening to bring down God’s wrath on us as on Sodom—then some inquiries are in order. Beware! "Jews killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men; forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always; for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. 1 Thess. 2:14." Apostate fags and Jews certain to bring God’s wrath. ”
“ Homosexuals and Jews dominated Nazi Germany... just as they now dominate this doomed U.S.A... The Jews now wander the earth despised, smitten with moral and spiritual blindness by a divine judicial stroke... And God has smitten Jews with a certain unique madness, whereby they are an astonishment of heart, a proverb, and a byword (the butt of jokes and ridicule) among all peoples whither the Lord has driven and scattered them... Jews, thus perverted, out of all proportion to their numbers energize the militant sodomite agenda... The American Jews are the real Nazis (misusers and abusers of governmental power) who hate God and the rule of law

In 2003 Phelps turned his attacks on Ireland. In a sermon preached on July 29 2007 in which he returned to the topic, he told his congregation that he had launched a website godhatesireland.com to "expose Ireland as the Emerald (now Pink) Isle of the Sodomite Damned, –saturated with fags and dykes at every level of society and government."[citation needed] His most recent tirade was triggered off when the Literary and Historical Society, a debating society in University College Dublin invited Phelps to participate in a debate on homosexual adoption. The invitation was made in error, and was withdrawn within a few days. He told his congregation that in the past he had

“ ...warned America about Ireland’s sad, sick, sodomite culture and fag Irish Senator David Norris’ case before the European Court of Human Rights. (Incidentally, the “Openly-Gay” Irish Senator Norris was represented before that Strasbourg European Court, by the famous Irish President, Mary Robinson.) We warned that WBC has had lots of experience with Ireland’s militant sodomite citizenry, steeped for many decades in ignorant, blind, idolatrous Catholicism, belching out their vile fagspeak, slander, and blasphemy against God and His Word – cursing WBC members as guests on Dublin talk-radio shows. Remember, Martin Luther said Catholic churches, seminaries and monasteries are nothing but sodomite whorehouses filled with unnatural brute beasts and devils. We warned that the very leprechauns of Ireland are likely to be fags![42] ”
Phelps' attack on former president Mary Robinson and Senator David Norris, both widely respected figures, drew ridicule in Ireland.


In 2003, before the fall of Saddam Hussein during the Iraq War, Phelps wrote Hussein a letter praising his regime for being, in his opinion, "the only Muslim state that allows the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to be freely and openly preached on the streets."[56] Furthermore, he stated that he would like to send a delegation to Baghdad to "preach the Gospel" for one week. Saddam granted permission, and a group of WBC congregants traveled to Iraq to protest against the U.S. The WBC members stood on the streets of Baghdad holding signs condemning both Bill and Hillary Clinton, as well as anal sex.[57] After Saddam was executed in 2006, Phelps released a video commentary that stated that both Saddam Hussein and Gerald Ford (who had died the same week) were now in Hell.

Since the early 1990s, Phelps has targeted several individuals and groups in the public eye for criticism by the Westboro Baptist Church after their deaths. Prominent examples include President Ronald Reagan, Diana, Princess of Wales, Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist, National Football League star Reggie White, Sonny Bono, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Islam and Muslims, murdered college student Matthew Shepard, the late children's television host Fred Rogers, Australian actor Heath Ledger, Jews,[66] Catholics, Swedes, the Irish and US soldiers killed in Iraq. He has also targeted the Joseph Estabrook Elementary School in Lexington, Massachusetts, center of the David Parker controversy. In 2007 he stated that he would target the late Rev. Jerry Falwell's funeral.[67]

Shirley Phelps-Roper, a daughter of Fred Phelps, has appeared on Fox News, defending the WBC and attacking homosexuality.

In a recent video sermon, Phelps targeted comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, claiming that they are among the "scoffers and mockers" referred to in the Bible, and used them as evidence that we are in the "last of the Last Days." He was particularly critical of Colbert's Emmy Awards show performance, in which Colbert, tongue-in-cheek, called the Hollywood audience "Godless sodomites."[68] He compared Colbert's comments to the "blaspheming comics" of Sodom and Gomorrah and referred to both Colbert and Stewart as "sacrilegious buffoons."
Phelps' followers have repeatedly protested the University of Kansas School of Law's graduation ceremonies.
In August 2007, in the wake of the Minneapolis I-35W bridge collapse, Phelps and his congregation have stated that they will protest at the funerals of the victims. In a statement, the church said that Minneapolis is the "land of the Sodomite damned

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

For the 333 trillionth time, someone can't/won't understand the difference between "I don't believe gods exist" & "I believe gods do not exist"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Titus 2:9-10
Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again;
Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.

[Enterprise-D]

Why is that poisonous old fart Phelps still alive? I thought he was the one that kicked the bucket...which one died?

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Jerry Falwell?

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Zechariah 13:3 And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the LORD: and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth.

[Enterprise-D]

Jerry Falwell?

Oh yeah...

Geez, Phelps really hams up the stereotype of crazy ass fundie...

[swarm]

Phelps makes me wish there was a god.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Jesus predicted that on his return to earth, "the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of man coming in clouds with great power and glory. And then he will send out the angels, and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven." (Mark 13:24-27) He even predicted a deadline for it to happen: "Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away before all these things take place." (Mark 13:30) The generation he was speaking to did pass away, but the sun still shines, the stars still twinkle in the night sky, and there have been no heavenly passengers riding in on the clouds. Jesus was wrong.

Mark 13:30 is not the only passage that makes such a prediction. We see it also in Matthew 24:34, which uses the same language as Mark. Luke 21:25-27, 32 also has nearly the same wording.
Also, Matthew 16:28 - "There are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom."
And in Luke 9:26-27 - "There are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God."
And Mark 9:1 - "Truly I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power."

The Greek word for "generation" means essentially the same as our English word. According to the New Oxford Annotated Bible (1973 ed., p. 1204, note to Matthew 24:34), "the normal meaning of this generation would be 'men of our time,' and the words would refer to a period of 20-30 years."

The theologians often appeal to Mark 13:32 to argue that Jesus was not making a specific prediction about when the end would occur. That passage tells us that Jesus himself does not know exactly when the end will come: "But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." Here, however, he's just telling us that he doesn't know the exact time when the kingdom of God will arrive. He is still very clear that it will occur sometime during the lifetime of the generation he's speaking to.

Another way in which the theologians try to escape from this embarrassment is to claim that the generation referred to in Mark 13:30, Matthew 24:34, etc. is not the generation Jesus was speaking to, but the generation that will be living at the time these amazing events take place. But this is obviously absurd, because it would mean that Jesus is telling his audience, "Some of the people in the generation that will be alive when these things happen will be alive when these things happen." A statement like this conveys no meaning at all, and there would be no point in Jesus saying such a thing.

http://www.bibleblunders.com/

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is "God is crying." And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is "Probably because of something you did."

[swarm]

You you could say god is pissing.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

LOL I've said that!

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads//2008/11/behold-i-come-quickly.jpg

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