Does God have any legitimate reasons for his demands?

[hug-a-tree]

Rather than just "Because I said so"?

:confused:

[Betrayer0fHope]

God transcends "reasons."

[Asguard]

god suffers from Narcissistic personality disorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder)

[XPsyrixX]

Ok. What demands, exactly? I'd think I would have gotten a newsletter at least.

[lightgigantic]

legitimate reasons for who?
atheists?
well let me set you straight on this, atheists have a non-belief in god so there is no question of legitimacy.

Does that make sense?

[SkinWalker]

Rather than just "Because I said so"?

:confused:

It will depend on which god or gods and, sometimes, which sect or cult you would like that answer from. Some religious cults believe(d) their god put them here to manage the world; for the entertainment of the gods; because the gods were lonely; etc.

Many religious cults (past and present) have origin myths that sometimes touch on this. Extant cults of Christianity, for instance, draw from these myths and many modern adherents interpret them to infer meanings that can vary from cult to cult, sect to sect.

Some will cite the earliest Judeo-christian writings by Bronze Age nomads where they penned their oral cult traditions as evidence that, even today, man's purpose is to have dominion over the Earth and, thus, it's fair to exploit the Earth's resources as we see fit, particularly since the same mythology states man will be magically rescued in the "near" future.

Other Christian cults see this same passage as evidence that their god put man on earth to protect and care for the planet as a benevolent steward.

The main point is that humans create their own "purpose of god" depending on their current ideologies -its fascinating how ideology shapes cult beliefs just as much as cult beliefs shape ideologies in a sort of feedback loop.

[Asguard]

as i said, if god exists and is anything like what has been protrayed then he would have to be a Narcissist

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Does a cruel, immature, unfair, deceiving, conceited, insane sadist bully have any legitimate reasons for its demands?

[Betrayer0fHope]

Does a cruel, immature, unfair, deceiving, conceited, insane sadist bully have any legitimate reasons for its demands?

Prove God is these things.

[Quigly]

what are his demands?

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Prove God is these things.

Read the Holy Babble.

[scorpius]

Prove God is these things.
www.evilbible.com

[scorpius]

legitimate reasons for who?
atheists?
well let me set you straight on this, atheists have a non-belief in god so there is no question of legitimacy.

Does that make sense?
no :D

[ashura]

legitimate reasons for who?
atheists?
well let me set you straight on this, atheists have a non-belief in god so there is no question of legitimacy.

Does that make sense?

I'm sure the OP meant legitimate reasons for theists, although I'm also sure your answer for that won't satisfy what he's looking for.

[lightgigantic]

I'm sure the OP meant legitimate reasons for theists, although I'm also sure your answer for that won't satisfy what he's looking for.
probably because he's an atheist
:o

[lightgigantic]

no :D
I agree
:D

[sisyphus__]

I'm sure the OP meant legitimate reasons for theists, although I'm also sure your answer for that won't satisfy what he's looking for.
she's

[sisyphus__]

probablybecause he's an atheist
:o
she's

[Non-Logical-Idea-Guy]

God (usually) is omniscient. He does know what is best, we must assume that he seeks to achieve the best. In the same way a parent might feel when lecturing a kid, the parent knows more than the kid, so tells the kid what to do- most of us would see this as reasonable. Therefore why should we be surprised when an omniscient being tells us what to do and what not to do. Its pretty simple really. :)

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

God is not omniscient. If it was, it doesn't mean it knows what's best for us. That's a huge assumption. A further huge assumption is that it seeks to acheive what's best for us. If I can show I know more than you & you parents combined, will you do what I say? Parents don't have the moral or legal right to do or say anything they want to children.

[Non-Logical-Idea-Guy]

God is not omniscient. If it was, it doesn't mean it knows what's best for us. That's a huge assumption. A further huge assumption is that it seeks to acheive what's best for us. If I can show I know more than you & you parents combined, will you do what I say? Parents don't have the moral or legal right to do or say anything they want to children.

In most major religions, take christianity for example; god is omniscient.
In most major religions, take christianity for example; god is compassionate and loving toward the human race, indicating he probably wants the best for us.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

In most major religions, take christianity for example; god is omniscient.


You didn't say in most major religions, initially.
In the Holy Babble, god reacts to things rather than preventing them. It often reacts emotionally, indicating it did not know what would happen before it happened. It asks Adam "where are you?" It created humanity knowing humans wouldn't be what it wanted. Split personality? It played a cruel game against Satan with Job & others as pawns to see what Job would do. It needs people to pray to tell it what they want, what they repent of, to beg forgiveness, etc. In order to prevent man from finding his way to heaven, it thought it necessary to confuse their language & disperse them. It took a ridiculously long time of performing silly tricks thru Moses to get Pharoah to let the Hebrews leave Egypt. Then the god caused Pharoah to change his mind. Seems this god can't even know what it will do. It says Earth has 4 corners & there was a day before it created Earth & the sun. It does evil things then repents. It made the sun stand still to give more time to Joshua in the battle of Jericho. Making the sun stand still wouldn't affect time. That wouldn't even prevent the Earth from turning.


In most major religions, take christianity for example; god is compassionate and loving toward the human race, indicating he probably wants the best for us.

Absurd.

[orcot]

In most major religions, take christianity for example; god is compassionate and loving toward the human race, indicating he probably wants the best for us.
I'm confused isn't this the guy who holds a grudge because humans strife for knowledge, I believe it was only from the 12-13the century that you were allowed to study laws economics medine etc without becoming a monk?

He also at one point created the world and all in it was for us. All the land all the goods and all the animals witch shows a complete lack of respect of the earth and all life in it with the exeptions of humans.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

With a friend like Yahweh, who needs enemies?

[CarpetDiem]

God is not omniscient. If it was, it doesn't mean it knows what's best for us. That's a huge assumption. A further huge assumption is that it seeks to acheive what's best for us. If I can show I know more than you & you parents combined, will you do what I say? Parents don't have the moral or legal right to do or say anything they want to children.

Uh, yes they do and it has nothing to do with omniscience. Its law for the minors last time I checked, but if you know more, pray do tell.;)

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Uh, yes they do and it has nothing to do with omniscience. Its law for the minors last time I checked, but if you know more, pray do tell.;)

WHERE in the US, Canada, Australia or Europe is any law(s) saying parents can do anything they want to children????????????????????????????
No 1 said anything about parents being omniscient.

[CarpetDiem]

WHERE in the US, Canada, Australia or Europe is any law(s) saying parents can do anything they want to children????????????????????????????
No 1 said anything about parents being omniscient.

Quite right. My misinterpretation. Noone alive is omniscient, though some of you come quarter close.

[Vkothii]

If God is a construction of our minds (like, from a ways back in the old culture), then the question is: "does our cultural construction have any legitimate reasons for the demands it makes?"

[azriel]

First of all God doesn't demand haven't you ever heard of free will. Second of all he set the bar so high so that nobody could do it except he himself and finally if christianity is the truth then why is the christian world collapsing. If the christian bible says that no weapon forged of man will prosper against them then why is it that so many man made weapons are killing christians?

There's a way that seems right unto a man (christian democracy) but the end thereof leads only to destruction.

Broad is the road and wide is the gate (christian democracy) that leads to destruction and many are they that go by it.

Many will come from the East and the West and sit at the feast in the kingdom with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the the children of the kingdom (christians) will be cast into outer darkness where there will be weping and gnashing of teeth.

Before you condemn a God find out who he is and what he requests of you all of his requirements are for your best interest, so when he said be not conformed to the pattern of this world, he was talking about christian democracy. If I was the devil and I wanted to deceive the world into destruction, I would do it from within thre church.

[azriel]

Ya I know but I've been shot. stabbed, and run down by cars and I'm still here. My stocks aren't collapsing and I receive everything from him for free, like the car he just gave me, my third one that didn't cost me a dime and when he gave me this computer it was on the condition that I told the truth. There was nothing in the agreement about you believing it.

[scorpius]

First of all God doesn't demand haven't you ever heard of free will.
if god was omniscient all knowing your free will would be just an illusion

http://www.geocities.com/inquisitive79/vindicate.html

Before you condemn a God find out who he is and what he requests of you all of his requirements are for your best interest,
which god should we begin with?

www.godchecker.com

[scorpius]

Ya I know but I've been shot. stabbed, and run down by cars and I'm still here. My stocks aren't collapsing and I receive everything from him for free, like the car he just gave me, my third one that didn't cost me a dime and when he gave me this computer it was on the condition that I told the truth. There was nothing in the agreement about you believing it.
god gave you a car?
or was it some good natured PERSON feeling sorry for you?
plz give credit where its due!

[azriel]

god gave you a car?
or was it some good natured PERSON feeling sorry for you?
plz give credit where its due!

Believe what ever you want, I don't pay for anything

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Believe what ever you want,

Et tu.

[Medicine*Woman]

First of all God doesn't demand haven't you ever heard of free will. Second of all he set the bar so high so that nobody could do it except he himself and finally if christianity is the truth then why is the christian world collapsing. If the christian bible says that no weapon forged of man will prosper against them then why is it that so many man made weapons are killing christians?

There's a way that seems right unto a man (christian democracy) but the end thereof leads only to destruction.

Broad is the road and wide is the gate (christian democracy) that leads to destruction and many are they that go by it.

Many will come from the East and the West and sit at the feast in the kingdom with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the the children of the kingdom (christians) will be cast into outer darkness where there will be weping and gnashing of teeth.

Before you condemn a God find out who he is and what he requests of you all of his requirements are for your best interest, so when he said be not conformed to the pattern of this world, he was talking about christian democracy. If I was the devil and I wanted to deceive the world into destruction, I would do it from within thre church.
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M*W: First, you don't make any sense.

Secondly, your religion does not provide you with 'free will', only atheism can truly give you free will.

Thirdly, why are you so sure that christianity is the truth as you seem to claim?

Fourthly, you are following the religion of the ancients, especially the religion of Abraham. Abraham, in the day he might have existed, was a pagan idol worshiper.

No one is condemning god. One would have to believe in him first, before denying him.

[Asguard]

nothing can give you free will M*W

Quantum mechanics forbids it as does culture