It is time to wake up, you cardboard!

[JukriS]

Evidence of the claims / predictions!





Opposition 1

Neutrino transfer the kinetic energy of atoms in nucleus!

Proof

http://arxivblog.com/?p=596

Opposition 2

The entire visible universe of energy is moving away from one point on which is really far away from the visible universe outside!

Proof 1

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7440217.stm

Proof 2

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ark-flows.html








www.onesimpleprinciple.com

[MacGyver1968]

If there's anyone here that speaks "wooo-wooo" could you please translate the meaning of this thread for me....because I don't understand.

[Steve100]

I doubt it's anything of use, just like his other two threads.

[JukriS]

http://www.onesimpleprinciple.com/l2

"Because the MOVEMENT takes place towards a less dense area, then the visible universe MOVES as an entity away from that one point that is really far away from the visible universe and where the energy is much denser than it is in a visible universe."







As if the mysteries of dark matter and dark energy weren't vexing enough, another baffling cosmic puzzle has been discovered.

Patches of matter in the universe seem to be moving at very high speeds and in a uniform direction that can't be explained by any of the known gravitational forces in the observable universe. Astronomers are calling the phenomenon "dark flow."

The stuff that's pulling this matter must be outside the observable universe, researchers conclude.

When scientists talk about the observable universe, they don't just mean as far out as the eye, or even the most powerful telescope, can see. In fact there's a fundamental limit to how much of the universe we could ever observe, no matter how advanced our visual instruments. The universe is thought to have formed about 13.7 billion years ago. So even if light started travelling toward us immediately after the Big Bang, the farthest it could ever get is 13.7 billion light-years in distance. There may be parts of the universe that are farther away (we can't know how big the whole universe is), but we can't see farther than light could travel over the entire age of the universe.

Mysterious motions

Scientists discovered the flow by studying some of the largest structures in the cosmos: giant clusters of galaxies. These clusters are conglomerations of about a thousand galaxies, as well as very hot gas which emits X-rays. By observing the interaction of the X-rays with the cosmic microwave background (CMB), which is leftover radiation from the Big Bang, scientists can study the movement of clusters.

The X-rays scatter photons in the CMB, shifting its temperature in an effect known as the kinematic Sunyaev-Zel'dovich (SZ) effect. This effect had not been observed as a result of galaxy clusters before, but a team of researchers led by Alexander Kashlinsky, an astrophysicist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., found it when they studied a huge catalogue of 700 clusters, reaching out up to 6 billion light-years, or half the universe away. They compared this catalogue to the map of the CMB taken by NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) satellite.

They discovered that the clusters were moving nearly 2 million mph (3.2 million kph) toward a region in the sky between the constellations of Centaurus and Vela. This motion is different from the outward expansion of the universe (which is accelerated by the force called dark energy).

"We found a very significant velocity, and furthermore, this velocity does not decrease with distance, as far as we can measure," Kashlinsky told SPACE.com. "The matter in the observable universe just cannot produce the flow we measure."

Inflationary bubble

The scientists deduced that whatever is driving the movements of the clusters must lie beyond the known universe.

A theory called inflation posits that the universe we see is just a small bubble of space-time that got rapidly expanded after the Big Bang. There could be other parts of the cosmos beyond this bubble that we cannot see.

In these regions, space-time might be very different, and likely doesn't contain stars and galaxies (which only formed because of the particular density pattern of mass in our bubble). It could include giant, massive structures much larger than anything in our own observable universe. These structures are what researchers suspect are tugging on the galaxy clusters, causing the dark flow.

"The structures responsible for this motion have been pushed so far away by inflation, I would guesstimate they may be hundreds of billions of light years away, that we cannot see even with the deepest telescopes because the light emitted there could not have reached us in the age of the universe," Kashlinsky said in a telephone interview. "Most likely to create such a coherent flow they would have to be some very strange structures, maybe some warped space time. But this is just pure speculation."

Surprising find

Though inflation theory forecasts many odd facets of the distant universe, not many scientists predicted the dark flow.

"It was greatly surprising to us and I suspect to everyone else," Kashlinsky said. "For some particular models of inflation you would expect these kinds of structures, and there were some suggestions in the literature that were not taken seriously I think until now."

The discovery could help scientists probe what happened to the universe before inflation, and what's going on in those inaccessible realms we cannot see.


http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080923-dark-flows.html

[Ophiolite]

I could post some really neat stuff on diachronous sedimentation in the Dinatian as revealed by evolutionary trends in brachipod fauna, if you think that would help.

[quantum_wave]

When I read this thread the Arrow of Time and Eternal Inflation Cosmology came to mind. When I followed the link, and then a link at the bottom of that article my initial thoughts were confirmed. I am familiar with what boils down to Eternal Inflation of patches or bubbles of space where inflation occurs at differing and variable rates. Each bubble is connected and bubbles can interact, but each bubble ultimately experiences continual inflation.

The difference between the Big Rip which is now thought to be the ultimate fate if you are an advocate of Big Bang theory, and Eternal inflation is that the past is clear in BBT. Our expanding universe is 13.7 billion years old and there is no reference to time or space existing before that.

In the Arrow of Time, Sean Carroll's cosmology, an example of Eternal Inflation, the past is cloaked by varying rates of inflation in various bubbles, and the history of the universe is elusive. The only thing that is clear is that both BBT and Eternal Inflation had a beginning and will end in complete entropy.

In neither case is there any description of where the initial energy came form or what caused the inflation to begin.

[kaneda]

JukriS. A problem with the BB is that large structures grew too quick. If you start off with everything expanding away from everything else at speed in the early universe, it does not tend to clump to form elements, then stars and then galaxies. However if you have the remains of a previous universe for matter to clump around, it is possible.

[JukriS]

Galaxys centre it is giant energycancentration who expanding and emit energywaves who have a nature of atoms.

So, our stuff born from energy who already moving very very fast far away from one point who is far away outside visible Universe!

You should look about that video and some other, before you write anything!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF41G3gGYHA

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Etimespace

Here i told 28.5.2008, there can be phenomena like dark flow. Lets using google translation!

http://www.onesimpleprinciple.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2259

"The baby Galaxies

http://www.ursa.fi/blogit/ta/index.php?title=hubble_paljasti_massiiviset_vauvag alaksi&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1


Maybe these baby galaxies are from different energyconcentration than older galaxies. If so, then the baby galaxies could be moves to detect this.

Both concentrations of energy, therefore, are located in the visible universe outside and they are expanded, and emit energy waves with a galaxy nature.

Heitämpä So ilmoille suspicion here!

RemonttiJukteri"