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sridharanr
09-21-08, 10:48 AM
I have been thinking a new way of unfolding the mysteries of our cosmos! There are these jargons- dark energy, dark matter, visible matter, entanglement, speed of light, black holes, inflation, big bang, gravity, strong weak and electromagnetic forces, voids of space, spacetime etc etc... How do we combine all these into a coherent whole? The idea that something can travel faster than the speed of light is a confirmed fact in the quantum world! The same is unthinkable in the classical world, which limits us to the speed of light as discovered by that famous physicist Albert Einstein. Then there are these mysteries- entanglement, inflation, black holes and what not. The age of the universe has been taken as 13.7 billion years. When something can travel faster than the speed of light, is this limiting age a real one? What is dark matter? What is dark energy? what are black holes? - these are the mysteries for which no answers are as yet found. We live in an universe where 73 per cent is dominated by a mysterious dark energy, 23 per cent by an equal mystic dark matter and the rest of 4 per cent in the real, real world! What do these things mean? - Contemplate.
In the past years, physicists have tried their best to unify all forces without much of success. Great minds have toiled and burnt midnight oil with only frustrations and unfulfilled dreams! However the quest for knowing the unknown never waned - mankind will never rest until the truth is set free! Great telescopes, Colliders and many more mega structures are invented and yet the truth appears to be elusive!
Kaleidoscope is what the Universe mimics to the great thinkers of our time. Everything appears to be magical - the great magician never lets down his secrets! Every step we take and climb up the cliff, we never seem to go up even to a little height! We fall. It is as though a never ending quest. Man has started it all and will never accept defeats until he exists. Mind will never rest without solving the great mystery.
The story runs like this
'Ten little Indians went out to dine;
One choked his little self and then there were Nine.
Nine little Indians sat up very late;
One overslept himself and then there were Eight.
. . .etc . . . and to the last
One little Indian left all alone'
And then may be the ultimate truth unfolds!
Who will be the great player? Who will end our quest?
Einstein did come near it - but succumbed fighting the forces! You find a little truth and then the whole truth widens! You are constantly provoked to a hide and seek play. It is an inversely proportionate game - the more close you try to reach the goal, the less you actually progress. Man never admits defeats. He is surrounded by mirages at every epoch of age. The greatest of all is his steadfast desire to go in the logical path. Our minds are developed to reason at every point of time. Alas! The ultimate truth still eludes him. He becomes, as though a fish thrown out of water! Wriggles and dies. The ocean of truth lies right in front of him, and never able to see it. He surmises without much of luck. What is the truth? Why do we exist? What makes us tick? Why the ultimate truth eludes us? Are we all a part of the mirage, never to see the light? Nope! Albert Einstein proved it wrong! He did see the light! "One small step for (a) man, one giant leap for mankind". He has shown us the way. He showed that the mystery lies in layers. The more layers you embrace, the more you are enlightened. The ultimate truth should dawn on him. He has the reason to believe in solving the mystery. Never die a fool! Nature will never play dice with his own creation! We are the part of that ultimate truth. It is as though our own eyes are blind to our organs. Though the progress is visible, he has to accelerate his prowess. There is an exponential expansion after the big bang. We need a parallel processing to catch up with the unfolding and elusive Cosmos. Catch me if you can is what the challenges the Universe throws on us. One day the great truth will have to be known. At what rate this feat is feasible? Man has tried all his ages, inching his own extinction before the ultimate truth he envisages dawn on him. We have a great advantage of our predecessors who have shown us at what rate we should progress to know the ultimate. Though the accelerated efforts of a modern man looks real, much, much more has he to expound.
see also scienceblog.com/cms/blog/6797-modern-cosmology-17241.html

Lamont Cranston
09-21-08, 11:23 AM
We want to know the answers to everything because we don't trust God and His wisdom. I find that very sad.

You talk about dark matter, energy, etc in the universe. What about the answers to questions a little closer to home?

Like..how does molecular biology explain the reality of love?

How does the tiny number of genes in a bacteriophage account for its amazing 3-dimensional structure?

Ophiolite
09-21-08, 12:08 PM
Or, why can't people make more use of paragraphs? Don't they want their thoughts to be read?


Just to be on the safe side: Lamont you did use paragraphs. It made reading your post a pleasure. I must have been referencing someone else.

quantum_wave
09-21-08, 12:24 PM
We want to know the answers to everything because we don't trust God and His wisdom. I find that very sad.It's not that. God becomes science as we learn more about nature. If something that is attributed to the supernatural can be shown to be consistently observed and repeatable, then we can trust it to occur under identical conditions. It is human nature to search until we understand things that are dependable.

If we don't understand why it occurs, or if we can't test ideas about why it occurs because the tests are not yet described or not yet possible, we do not attribute it to the supernatural, we keep looking for the natural cause.

Little by little we discover that what we can depend on is being explained. Once it is explained it is no longer supernatural.

You talk about dark matter, energy, etc in the universe. What about the answers to questions a little closer to home?

Like..how does molecular biology explain the reality of love?

How does the tiny number of genes in a bacteriophage account for its amazing 3-dimensional structure?Are you saying these things are not natural? If they are repeatable, consistently observed, and predictable, then we can hypothesize about their cause. If we can test the hypothesis then we can falsify theory. If the theory proves out, then it has tentativeness as being natural as opposed to supernatural.

Even laws in physics are considered tentative in science. It is simply an acknowledgment that though we think we have something put to bed, something can go bump in the night :).

Lamont Cranston
09-21-08, 02:16 PM
Yes. If a person from the 16th century had a chance to view the earth today, he would be amazed by it and probably put everything down to sorcery, especially radios, TVs, planes, cars etc. He would be wrong. But have those things actually made our lives better than his? Medical advances maybe, but that's all in my opinion.

Today we say time travel and interstallar exploration are 'science fiction'. Yet Mallett's theories and even the LHC could mean that time travel may very soon be possible. But will they be good or bad for us? That's the $64 k question.

sridharanr
10-05-08, 04:32 AM
We want to know the answers to everything because we don't trust God and His wisdom. I find that very sad.
You talk about dark matter, energy, etc in the universe. What about the answers to questions a little closer to home?

Like..how does molecular biology explain the reality of love?

How does the tiny number of genes in a bacteriophage account for its amazing 3-dimensional structure?

G'day Lamont Cranston

I have never involved God in my post... it is purely a scientific inquiry....
At one point of time all entities are unified and that has continued to our present epoch - right ? - this is what I meant. Can anyone contemplate of a unified macro Cosmos ? We see everything distinctively as separate entities - only when we go back in time we know that all forces are unified.

None of us know exactly what are these "Dark Energy", "Dark Matter" "Entanglement" , "Inflation" etc.. etc.. - we simply accept them - we all live in the world of speculations and fantasies because we are ignorant of realities. Even the elite Cosmologists are only speculating.
I have only tried to remind us of Einsteins legacy - never to accept chances - he was always searching for facts and certainties.

In my blog I have tried to emphasize our ignorance to draw the attention of everyone, because I feel (it is also every one's concern) that our progress at this rate needs to be hastened up.

Can any one in our quest come out with mathematical proof like the great Einstein to prove all those jargon? - None of us have native genius in us - to awaken that only I have come out with this speculative post.........
may be this one reply would suffice for all your digression.

kaneda
10-05-08, 04:43 AM
We want to know the answers to everything because we don't trust God and His wisdom. I find that very sad.


The bible is full of lies and is not historically or scientifically accurate. It does not even obey the rules of common-sense.

kaneda
10-05-08, 04:48 AM
Sridharanr. Dark energy is an idea to back up the increasingly unlikely big bang idea. Dark matter is a mathematical convenience at present.

OilIsMastery
10-05-08, 05:55 AM
We want to know the answers to everything because we don't trust God and His wisdom.
Speak for yourself.

doctormitrau
10-05-08, 09:45 PM
Indian mythological "Ishwar Tatva" is the concept very near to Dark matter/ Dark energy etc. The subtle matter "Ishwar Tattva" is not only the cause of creation or gradual synthesis of matter but also the progenitor of different fields.
My concept about Ishwar Tattva will help you a lot - "Initially our Universe was filled up by such a medium, The medium was distributed homogeneously through out the universe having properties as under.
It was made up of very tiny particle several thousand time smaller then electron, these momentum carrying particles were moving randomly in all possible directions with tremendous speed (of the order light travels in space). Here and after these particles are called Momentisons. These particles ordinarily exhibit all such properties as considered in kinetic theory.
These particles agglomerate in special circumstances to make bigger and bigger particles such as nucleons and other particles. Agglomerated big particles when come closer changes the local distribution of the medium itself, hence creating different fields popularly known as Gravitational, Electrostatic, Weak and nuclear depending on the relative size and distance of two or more particles............"
The concept starts with very simple logic, there is nothing illogical to gulp, not only it explains all about the dark matter/ energy/fields but also describes the creation of Universe starting from the synthesis of first nucleon to the last stage of matter “The Black Holes”…………

kaneda
10-08-08, 10:56 AM
Why try to fit mythology to real life? Holy books were written by people with the poor knowledge of the day.

sridharanr
10-09-08, 12:17 PM
Sridharanr. Dark energy is an idea to back up the increasingly unlikely big bang idea. Dark matter is a mathematical convenience at present.

G'day kaneda
At the beginning both Dark energy and Dark matter were unified, now they are seen as separate entities - what I speculate is why cant we see a unified macro cosmos!? How do we unify all at the macro level?