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MZ3Boy84
09-20-08, 07:03 PM
Based purely on the following information regarding myself, determine if I am hell-bound.

1) I'm gay.
2) I spent time in the military and took the life of another human being.
3) I am extremely generous and would help almost anyone in need at any moment.
4) I tend to think of myself as very compassionate both about myself and other living creatures around me and treat all with loving-kindness.
5) I'm Buddhist, NOT Christian.

So what's the verdict?

Carcano
09-20-08, 07:04 PM
Off with you...to the abyss I say!!!

nietzschefan
09-20-08, 07:05 PM
Yea 9th level of hell for sure.

MZ3Boy84
09-20-08, 07:08 PM
Yea 9th level of hell for sure.

Silly. :-p

Carcano
09-20-08, 07:09 PM
Heres a map to get you acquainted with your future surroundings. :)

http://jade.ccccd.edu/Andrade/BritLitI2322/images/NEWINF.GIF

MZ3Boy84
09-20-08, 07:10 PM
Now THATS funny. Where'd ya pick that up at?

nietzschefan
09-20-08, 07:13 PM
It IS funny - You can tell it was made with the economy in mind - the lowest crime other than traitor - is counterfeiting.

Carcano
09-20-08, 07:22 PM
Where'd ya pick that up at?
Information booth...right outside the front gates!

Carcano
09-20-08, 07:23 PM
You can tell it was made with the economy in mind - the lowest crime other than traitor - is counterfeiting.
Bernanke's doomed! :eek:

(Q)
09-20-08, 07:26 PM
So what's the verdict?

You, like the rest of us, will be trapped in a place called "Chrislam" in which demons from Christianity and Islam battle for your immortal soul.

Never mind, we're already there. ;)

one_raven
09-20-08, 07:50 PM
NIV Matt 12:31 And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

Only those who blapheme the Holy Spirit are going to Hell.

(most of the people who post on this forum, for example :))

Carcano
09-20-08, 07:58 PM
Only those who blapheme the Holy Spirit are going to Hell.

Indeed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L1eGFZT3oU

one_raven
09-20-08, 07:59 PM
No sound at work. :(

shorty_37
09-20-08, 09:34 PM
I don't believe you are going anywhere except into the ground or the cremation furnace.
After that I don't think you take a trip upstairs or down. I think either the bugs eat you up or someone keeps you on their fireplace.

So you need an other option.

one_raven
09-20-08, 09:35 PM
So you need an other option.

Not if he is looking for the Christian point of view. :p

PsychoticEpisode
09-20-08, 10:05 PM
Heres a map to get you acquainted with your future surroundings. :)

http://jade.ccccd.edu/Andrade/BritLitI2322/images/NEWINF.GIF

Why is there a Wood and a Hill indicated? Just curious.

GeoffP
09-20-08, 11:09 PM
Based purely on the following information regarding myself, determine if I am hell-bound.

1) I'm gay.
2) I spent time in the military and took the life of another human being.
3) I am extremely generous and would help almost anyone in need at any moment.
4) I tend to think of myself as very compassionate both about myself and other living creatures around me and treat all with loving-kindness.
5) I'm Buddhist, NOT Christian.

So what's the verdict?

Neh. Well, at least I wouldn't send you. :shrug:

Norsefire
09-21-08, 12:15 AM
Based purely on the following information regarding myself, determine if I am hell-bound.

1) I'm gay. Jesus would likely not have cared about what your sexuality was

2) I spent time in the military and took the life of another human being. Military means it is justified
3) I am extremely generous and would help almost anyone in need at any moment. That's bad?
4) I tend to think of myself as very compassionate both about myself and other living creatures around me and treat all with loving-kindness. That's bad?
5) I'm Buddhist, NOT Christian.

That might be your only problem, but hey there are thousands of religions. Who knows what the right one is or if any of them are right?

chris4355
09-21-08, 12:45 AM
Coming from an ex Christian...

You are going to hell. Buddhist, took another mans life, homosexual...

But hey, just become Christian, that way if hell happens to be real you'll get a chance to get in.

But... seriously.. why do you care?

StrangerInAStrangeLa
09-21-08, 06:06 AM
NIV Matt 12:31 And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

Only those who blapheme the Holy Spirit are going to Hell.

(most of the people who post on this forum, for example :))

The Christian bible says those who do not believe in Jesus will not be saved.

Any person who believes someone should suffer horribly for ETERNITY is equivalent to a trillion Hitlers.

one_raven
09-21-08, 06:12 AM
The Christian bible says those who do not believe in Jesus will not be saved.

What I quoted above IS from the Christian Bible.

Cyperium
09-21-08, 08:42 AM
It's not up to us to judge, so how can we say yes or no?

Nevertheless, if you ask a person to do a job for you, and the person says 'yes' but doesn't do it. Then you ask another person, and the person says 'no' but does it. Who did the right thing?

Norsefire
09-21-08, 12:05 PM
Any person who believes someone should suffer horribly for ETERNITY is equivalent to a trillion Hitlers.

I believe child rapists and child killers should suffer horribly for eternity. Am I equivalent to a trillion Hitlers for that?

Anyway, most of the "sins" today were decided by the various churches, not by Christ himself.

PsychoticEpisode
09-21-08, 12:17 PM
No, you're going to a place where all men are equal.

Norsefire
09-21-08, 12:25 PM
No, you're going to a place where all men are equal.

And what would that be? Are there also fairies and goblins there?

PsychoticEpisode
09-21-08, 12:49 PM
And what would that be? Are there also fairies and goblins there?

I think they all wander over to your house.

Are you a fairy, a goblin? If so then it would appear likely.

Norsefire
09-21-08, 12:59 PM
I think they all wander over to your house.

Are you a fairy, a goblin? If so then it would appear likely.

My point was, there is no land of equality.

(Q)
09-21-08, 01:52 PM
My point was, there is no land of equality.

Why do you always sound as if your head is coming to a point?

Adstar
09-21-08, 08:35 PM
Based purely on the following information regarding myself, determine if I am hell-bound.

1) I'm gay.

As with all other sins this can be atoned for by the Messiah Jesus. So being gay is not an automatic go to the lake of fire condition.

2) I spent time in the military and took the life of another human being.

As with all other sins this can be atoned for by the Messiah Jesus. So having taken part in carnal combat and ended another person’s life is not an automatic go to the lake of fire transgression.

3) I am extremely generous and would help almost anyone in need at any moment.

If you removed the "almost" from that statement you would be conforming to the call of the Messiah Jesus.

4) I tend to think of myself as very compassionate both about myself and other living creatures around me and treat all with loving-kindness.

"almost".

5) I'm Buddhist, NOT Christian.

If you reject the atonement of the Redeemer the Messiah Jesus for your sins then yes you will have eternity in the lake of fire.

So what's the verdict?

Decision still pending.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

EmptyForceOfChi
09-21-08, 08:43 PM
You are heading for the lowest level of samsara my buddhist friend.

peace.

ggazoo
09-21-08, 09:12 PM
1) I'm gay.


As a Christian, I'm letting you know that you're not going to hell for that.

PsychoticEpisode
09-21-08, 09:16 PM
Originally Posted by MZ3Boy84

I am extremely generous and would help almost anyone in need at any moment.

.If you removed the "almost" from that statement you would be conforming to the call of the Messiah Jesus.


I wouldn't expect him to almost help commit murder.

codanblad
09-22-08, 10:15 AM
yeah most christians i talk to agree that believing in jesus as the son of god is the ONLY thing which matters. so yeah.

to norsefire: calling something your job doesn't make it ok.

Norsefire
09-22-08, 01:09 PM
to norsefire: calling something your job doesn't make it ok.

Huh?

S.A.M.
09-22-08, 01:16 PM
Based purely on the following information regarding myself, determine if I am hell-bound.

1) I'm gay.
2) I spent time in the military and took the life of another human being.
3) I am extremely generous and would help almost anyone in need at any moment.
4) I tend to think of myself as very compassionate both about myself and other living creatures around me and treat all with loving-kindness.
5) I'm Buddhist, NOT Christian.

So what's the verdict?


Yup, get used to it.

John99
09-22-08, 01:19 PM
Look on the bright side. In some countries you wouldnt have to wait to get there.;)

Kadark
09-22-08, 02:17 PM
If it's any consolation, you'll be going to hell regardless of your religion.

:shrug:


Kadark

BlueMoose
09-22-08, 02:37 PM
Why is there a Wood and a Hill indicated? Just curious.

-I´m just guessing, but Hill could be Mount Sinai where Moses get his Commandments and The Wood could be Tree of Life, so above as below, trees roots go down and branches up, and the forbidden fruit. The same old symbols,
never have saw that picture before though.

S.A.M.
09-22-08, 02:38 PM
Its Dante's Inferno

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Divine_Comedy

sisyphus__
09-23-08, 05:10 PM
If you stay gay you'll rot in hell.

How insane.
This is what inspires papers and s hit aganist God.

visceral_instinct
09-23-08, 06:48 PM
Fuck Christianity. If you go to hell I will insist in going too out of solidarity. :)

Norsefire
09-23-08, 06:58 PM
VI, you're Irish right? Were you raised a Catholic extremist?

Hahah JK with you, but seriously Ireland is pretty religious by European standards

MZ3Boy84
09-23-08, 10:22 PM
If you stay gay you'll rot in hell.

How insane.
This is what inspires papers and s hit aganist God.

Well, I guess I got a one way ticket to the right hand side of Lucifer himself! AWESOME! :yay:

Fuck Christianity. If you go to hell I will insist in going too out of solidarity.

:bravo: :cheers:

sisyphus__
09-23-08, 10:27 PM
sooo not worth the bother. why wonder if your going to hell kuz your gay are a buddhist etc. obviously this wholhe thing inspires threads of random insanity filtered with thoughts which allow people to think they are brilliant. if you ask me i would say to hell with thinking if you're going to hell. trust your gut instinct but don't "dis believe" in god just to hate something. if you hate something hate yourself and not some damn god that is so inspid in your memorys.

it's something you can't live without. to claim you have done away with god is probably a claim that you have went to the court to plead you are insane or something.

then again if i was gay i would be worried about it too. i'd feel like i've been abandondend. :( :(

John99
09-23-08, 10:29 PM
Looks like some of my favorite people will be there too.

Norsefire
09-23-08, 10:31 PM
MZ I don't think Jesus would have cared if you were gay.

sisyphus__
09-23-08, 10:31 PM
Religion is a trap and I want to scream at it. That doesn't mean I am dead yet. (or going to hell according to you :mad: )

azriel
09-23-08, 11:57 PM
First of all I think that it's very arrogant of anyone to know the mind and will of God. Who would I be to say ya or nay to your final eternal destination. As far as your sexual orientation, the bible describes that as the most despicable of sins and yet how many catholic priests are guilty of the same sin? Would a righteous God comdemn you and save the catholic based solely on your faith? You claim to be compassionate and would give the shirt off of your back to someone in need and yet the christians are one of the most selfish of religions I've ever encountered. Assuming God's role of judgement for anyone is very dangerous, the book says judge not lest you be judged so anyone who would point out your faults would be well advised to take the plank out of their own eye before attempting to reomve the speck from yours. According to my belief, nobody is going to hell because after mankind has fucked up this planet beyond inhabitation The real God is going to come and fix everything and then spend another thousand years getting our heads on straight and if you fuck it up after that well there's just no word to describe that level of stupidity.

inzomnia
09-24-08, 12:11 AM
Based purely on the following information regarding myself, determine if I am hell-bound.

1) I'm gay.
2) I spent time in the military and took the life of another human being.
3) I am extremely generous and would help almost anyone in need at any moment.
4) I tend to think of myself as very compassionate both about myself and other living creatures around me and treat all with loving-kindness.
5) I'm Buddhist, NOT Christian.

So what's the verdict?


Just curious. Considering you are a Buddhist, why do you prefer to ask the
Christians to be your judge? :confused: (I mean, if you believe Christians are
the right judge, why are you a Buddhist and not Christian, but if you don't
believe in Christianity why would their judgment matters? :confused:)

John99
09-24-08, 12:14 AM
Good point Inzomnia.

*John hugs Inzy*

inzomnia
09-24-08, 12:27 AM
Good point Inzomnia.

*John hugs Inzy*

?? lol, hugs John, too

azriel
09-24-08, 01:01 AM
Then again maybe I'm wrong. Maybe God is so disgusted with humanity that he just figures fuck em all and is going to let us destroy ourselves.

Cyperium
09-24-08, 04:48 AM
If you reject the atonement of the Redeemer the Messiah Jesus for your sins then yes you will have eternity in the lake of fire.



Decision still pending.


All Praise The Ancient Of DaysYes, but still, there is still a seeing is believing part of it. Even if he would count as the least in heaven.

MZ3Boy84
09-24-08, 12:02 PM
Just curious. Considering you are a Buddhist, why do you prefer to ask the
Christians to be your judge? :confused: (I mean, if you believe Christians are
the right judge, why are you a Buddhist and not Christian, but if you don't
believe in Christianity why would their judgment matters? :confused:)

I'm Buddhist. I asked because I have noticed that so many Christian view points are contradictory within the religion itself and I wanted to see the varying degree's here on SF.

It just seems that Christianity covers EVERY end of the spectrum that no one really knows what the religion stands for anymore.

You've got pro-life/pro-choice Christians, some Christians believe in heaven and hell, some don't. Some believe that you must repent, some don't. Some believe that you have to go to church, some don't. I mean, what the hell is Christianity anymore? The liberal and conservative views within the religion itself vary so extremely that thier ethics and morality are virtually worthless.

Granted they believe that Jesus was the Messiah and all that jazz, but that seems to be the ONLY thing that they have in common.

Captain Kremmen
09-26-08, 03:50 AM
Heres a map to get you acquainted with your future surroundings. :)

http://jade.ccccd.edu/Andrade/BritLitI2322/images/NEWINF.GIF

If there's a section for Giants,
surely there should be a section for Midgets as well.

Otherwise Hell isn't fair and I refuse to go.
btw, the 9th circle is a lake of ice not fire.

StrangerInAStrangeLa
09-26-08, 11:46 AM
In heaven everyone will joyously sing praises to god for eternity.
Sounds like hell to me.