Why Do Muslims Hate the West?

[(Q)]

* Because America alone (and the little America in the Middle East, Israel) prevents the expansion of Islamic rule?

* Because expansionist totalitarian movements, whether Soviet communism or radical Islam, always hate free societies, and America is the strongest free society?

* Because America is not only strong, it is religious (as opposed to Europe, which is weak and irreligious)?

* Because America is not only Christian; it is Judeo-Christian, the two religions the Islamists need to overcome to expand globally?

[Mr. Hamtastic]

You forgot the fact that we are infidels, and only good for beheading practice.

[nietzschefan]

* Because America alone (and the little America in the Middle East, Israel) prevents the expansion of Islamic rule?

* Because expansionist totalitarian movements, whether Soviet communism or radical Islam, always hate free societies, and America is the strongest free society?

* Because America is not only strong, it is religious (as opposed to Europe, which is weak and irreligious)?

* Because America is not only Christian; it is Judeo-Christian, the two religions the Islamists need to overcome to expand globally?

Interesting allegations...
And now for some facts?

[clusteringflux]

Not all muslims hate the west.

[(Q)]

Interesting allegations...
And now for some facts?

Muslims are complaining America supports non-democratic countries, hence they are implying that they want open and free societies, which is the furthest from the truth as Islam prohibits open and free societies.

As well, wouldn't the Islamic world cheer if Israel was wiped from the map?

[clusteringflux]

As well, wouldn't the Islamic world cheer if Israel was wiped from the map?

Not the ones living there.

[(Q)]

Not the ones living there.

Good point. They probably didn't get the memo.

[Mr. Hamtastic]

Doesn't the cat that runs Iran say that it's his goal to wipe Israel from the map?

[(Q)]

He's called for the "dissolution" of Israel. Same thing?

[azriel]

It's not so much that they hate the West, they hate Anglo Saxons

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Why do Christians hate the Middle East?

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* Because America alone (and the little America in the Middle East, Israel) prevents the expansion of Islamic rule?

* Because expansionist totalitarian movements, whether Soviet communism or radical Islam, always hate free societies, and America is the strongest free society?

* Because America is not only strong, it is religious (as opposed to Europe, which is weak and irreligious)?

* Because America is not only Christian; it is Judeo-Christian, the two religions the Islamists need to overcome to expand globally?

Those points are correct but not the whole picture. One MAJOR problem the clerics - their leaders - have is that Western thinking is a huge - HUGE!! - threat to the control they have over their followers. Their power is dependent on keeping the masses in the dark and uneducated and therefore incapable of thinking for themselves. And the individuals thinking and reasoning for themselves is precisely what Western nations promote.

So their teachings of isolationism also include the concepts that all Westerners are impure infidels - less than truly human, in fact - and it's their DUTY to both shun and destroy them. When all the rhetoric is stripped away, it's all done for the sole purpose of the clerics maintaining their special privileges which includes respect and power over the common people.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

The USA promotes individuals thinking and reasoning for themselves by taking out an elected leader & putting a dictator in his place, stealing land from a people who've lived on it for 1000 years & putting other people there, invading another nation to arrest the President for DRUG DEALING, starting wars to prevent a recently divided nation from joining together to be what it was for 1000 years, going to war to prevent a people from breaking away to form their own government (a right expressed in the revered Declaration Of Independence), continuing even into the 20th century to steal lands from the natives making it part of the US against the wishes of those natives, etc etc etc

[wsionynw]

* Because America is not only strong, it is religious (as opposed to Europe, which is weak and irreligious)?



I don't understand what you mean by strong (and weak)....please explain.

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The USA promotes individuals thinking and reasoning for themselves by taking out an elected leader & putting a dictator in his place, stealing land from a people who've lived on it for 1000 years & putting other people there, invading another nation to arrest the President for DRUG DEALING, starting wars to prevent a recently divided nation from joining together to be what it was for 1000 years, going to war to prevent a people from breaking away to form their own government (a right expressed in the revered Declaration Of Independence), continuing even into the 20th century to steal lands from the natives making it part of the US against the wishes of those natives, etc etc etc

Is your head always screwed on at a 25-degree angle? Form the majority of your posts, it sure seems that way.

Sure, the U.S. has done many things that none of us are proud of but you paint everthing with TOO broad a brush as if every American was guilty of all those various charges.

Incidentally, haven't many other nations done things just as bad AND even worse???

[Norsefire]

I'll go ahead and respond to your points from a Muslim point of view, since I once was one

* Because America alone (and the little America in the Middle East, Israel) prevents the expansion of Islamic rule? Perhaps, but I don't think many Muslims are interested in conquest, and if they are, might makes right.

* Because expansionist totalitarian movements, whether Soviet communism or radical Islam, always hate free societies, and America is the strongest free society? The Soviets were atheist left wingers, and were supposed to be a free and egalitarian society. "Radical Islam", luckily, is a huge minority. Regardless, what is a "free society"?

* Because America is not only strong, it is religious (as opposed to Europe, which is weak and irreligious)? America certainly is powerful and very religious. What does that have to do with things? Muslims hate atheists more than Christians.

Europe isn't weak, either, and it isn't "irreligious" in all areas. Ireland? Italy? Greece? Poland?

* Because America is not only Christian; it is Judeo-Christian, the two religions the Islamists need to overcome to expand globally?
Christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship the one same God.

[(Q)]

When all the rhetoric is stripped away, it's all done for the sole purpose of the clerics maintaining their special privileges which includes respect and power over the common people.

Very good point, RO. Nice summary.

[(Q)]

I don't understand what you mean by strong (and weak)....please explain.

The US is often viewed as a world power, or more accurately, THE world power.

[(Q)]

The USA promotes individuals thinking and reasoning for themselves by taking out an elected leader & putting a dictator in his place, stealing land from a people who've lived on it for 1000 years & putting other people there, invading another nation to arrest the President for DRUG DEALING, starting wars to prevent a recently divided nation from joining together to be what it was for 1000 years, going to war to prevent a people from breaking away to form their own government (a right expressed in the revered Declaration Of Independence), continuing even into the 20th century to steal lands from the natives making it part of the US against the wishes of those natives, etc etc etc

Are you Sams sockpuppet?

[(Q)]

I'll go ahead and respond to your points from a Muslim point of view, since I once was one

Since you are one.

Perhaps, but I don't think many Muslims are interested in conquest, and if they are, might makes right.

I suppose we'll just have to cut them where they stand, then, as violence is obviously their sole purpose. So much for the religion of peace, according to an ex-Muslim?


America certainly is powerful and very religious. What does that have to do with things? Muslims hate atheists more than Christians.

Considering that atheists have done absolutely nothing to Muslims and Christians have constantly warred with Muslims, the hatred must have something to do with Islam itself?

Europe isn't weak, either, and it isn't "irreligious" in all areas. Ireland? Italy? Greece? Poland?

Not all, but far less than the ME and the US.

Christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship the one same God.

Is that why their messages are identical to one another? :rolleyes:

[Norsefire]

Since you are one. You're very stubborn, aren't you?

I suppose we'll just have to cut them where they stand, then, as violence is obviously their sole purpose. So much for the religion of peace, according to an ex-Muslim? All of them? And is violence their sole purpose, for all of them? That's quite a foolish view of things. And I never claimed Islam was the "religion of peace".

Considering that atheists have done absolutely nothing to Muslims and Christians have constantly warred with Muslims, the hatred must have something to do with Islam itself? Many Muslims don't hate Christians. I used to be an Alawi, and in fact Christians and Jews, we considered fellow believers and friends. The Muslims that might hate Christians would be the Sunnis. Funny how they make up most of the radicals.


Not all, but far less than the ME and the US.
Certainly. However, I don't think we can call Europe post-Christian just yet.

Is that why their messages are identical to one another?
Yes.

[(Q)]

You're very stubborn, aren't you?

I'm not easily fooled by liars and charlatans.

All of them? And is violence their sole purpose, for all of them? That's quite a foolish view of things.

I'm going by your statement, hence you are the fool.

And I never claimed Islam was the "religion of peace".

Really Norse, I'm quite tired of having to go back into your posts and demonstrate you're lying, again.



Yes.

I see, so you think the message of the god of Abraham is identical to all Christians, Muslims and Jews, even though, as a Muslim, you want to see all Jews heads on lances?

You really are quite the idiot, Norse.

[Norsefire]

I'm not easily fooled by liars and charlatans. That is good, neither am I. However, as Master Confucius said, the gentleman can recognize a liar without being apprehensive about them.

I'm going by your statement, hence you are the fool.
Which statement?

Really Norse, I'm quite tired of having to go back into your posts and demonstrate you're lying, again. Going back into my posts wouldn't accomplish anything, since my opinions have changed. Regardless, I don't recall saying Islam was the religion of peace and if I did, well whatever. I don't think religions are about peace or war, but rather they are beliefs, and peace and war can result from them.

I see, so you think the message of the god of Abraham is identical to all Christians, Muslims and Jews, even though, as a Muslim, you want to see all Jews heads on lances?

Are you blind?

Anyway, Jews are fellow Semites and I wouldn't want such a thing.

[(Q)]

I don't recall saying Islam was the religion of peace and if I did, well whatever.

Yeah, whatever, we'll just ignore everything you say as you clearly don't recall any of it yourself, anyways.

I don't think religions are about peace or war, but rather they are beliefs, and peace and war can result from them.

You haven't read any religious scriptures, so you don't know.

Are you blind?

No, but you are stupid.

Anyway, Jews are fellow Semites and I wouldn't want such a thing.

Until you get them at arms length?

[Norsefire]

Yeah, whatever, we'll just ignore everything you say as you clearly don't recall any of it yourself, anyways. No, but it is you that wants to bring things up I said ages ago, and try to pass them off as my current opinion, when they clearly aren't.
You haven't read any religious scriptures, so you don't know. The Koran talks of Jihad. It doesn't say " you have to go be violent". Not all violence is unjustified. Not all killing is wrong. Self defense, capital punishment, etc, those are justified.

Now I'm not saying Muslims have never done bad things, but they don't have to be violent.
No, but you are stupid. You're illiterate, apparantly.

[(Q)]

No, but it is you that wants to bring things up I said ages ago, and try to pass them off as my current opinion, when they clearly aren't.

Still playing the role of bold-faced liar, I see.

The Koran talks of Jihad. It doesn't say " you have to go be violent". Not all violence is unjustified. Not all killing is wrong. Self defense, capital punishment, etc, those are justified.

Yes, we all know the capacity of Islam to be twisted and exploited to serve the ends to the violent means of your medieval and vicious cult.

Now I'm not saying Muslims have never done bad things, but they don't have to be violent.

Unfortunately, that doesn't mean a damn thing to Islamic clerics who will use whatever means are available, violent or otherwise.

You're illiterate, apparantly.

Yes, of course, but I can spell "apparently."

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Is your head always screwed on at a 25-degree angle? Form the majority of your posts, it sure seems that way.
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Absurd blathering.

[QUOTE=Read-Only;2016973]
Sure, the U.S. has done many things that none of us are proud of but you paint everthing with TOO broad a brush as if every American was guilty of all those various charges.
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That statement of yours is 1 of the best possible examples of broad generalizations and quite a puffed up strawman.

[QUOTE=Read-Only;2016973]
Incidentally, haven't many other nations done things just as bad AND even worse???

I need more time to properly respond to just as bad & even worse.
I can't think of any nation that hasn't done horrible things to its natives & others. When I see those being whitewashed, I might respond accordingly.
The USA is 1 of the few worst, 1 of the most powerful, the most absurdly hypocritical & the 1 which tries the most to be the great teacher, preacher, judge & police of the world. And 1 of the few, if not the, worst stick my nose (and guns) where it does not belong.
Then again maybe I don't need more time.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Norsefire --- Christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship the one same God.

====Triangles, spheres & cubes are the same shape.

[Norsefire]

Norsefire --- Christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship the one same God.

====Triangles, spheres & cubes are the same shape.

Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all Abrahamic, and share many common prophets and characters

[JDawg]

I think a couple people have already mentioned this, so I'll just throw my hat in here as well; Western society is pretty much the antithesis of Islamic culture. I'm sure there are different reasons this is a problem for Muslim leaders...some might see it as a threat because the potential influence Western society could have on their subjects; others might honestly believe the rhetoric that the West is full of infidels that Allah commands must be killed; and yet others might see that Western governments will always push for democratic societies rather than military or religious despots.

Regardless, the people in the Middle East that hate us do so because of the propaganda they are fed by their criminal leaders.

[(Q)]

Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all Abrahamic, and share many common prophets and characters

:bravo:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/

http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-bible-contradictions-refuted.htm

[Tiassa]

It's more political than anything else.

The Muslim encounter with “the West” in the 19th and 20th centuries was most intimately experienced through European conquests of Muslim lands which facilitated Western political, economic, social and cultural domination of the daily lives of the Muslims. By the end of World War I, there were only four Muslim nations—Afghanistan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Yemen—which had not experienced direct or indirect European rule.

European expansion, which began in the 17th century through the search for markets and natural resources, was by the 19th century enhanced through an ideological support system based on the teachings of social Darwinism: “natural selection” and the “survival of the fittest.” This gave European man “scientific” proof of his being the acme of human evolution and of his civilization being the final state in human achievement and progress.

Colonialism was justified on “humanitarian” grounds. Its purpose was to share the enlightenment and its achievements with those of inferior development. The colonial conquests were thus cloaked in the image of the European man’s “manifest destiny” which would lead the rest of humanity to become a replica of European man and to enjoy the benefits of the institutions he devised.

• • •

Europeans considered Muslim political institutions as antiquarian and obsolete. Throughout the 19th century various Western powers exerted pressure on local governments to liberalize their institutions. This included at times political, economic and military pressures to adopt changes in their policies as well as to incorporate Western “democratic” principles in their government.

Western arrogance was finally sanctioned by the Versailles Treaty (1919), which implied that Arab nations were unfit to govern themselves. International agreements had promised the independence and autonomy of the Arabs in return for their rebellion against the Muslim Turks, their fellow religionists. Despite these promises, the European powers devised the mandate system which carved up the Ottoman Empire into several states to be ruled directly by Britain and France. This was justified as a “civilizing” mission. In effect, Arab countries were assured that they would become beneficiaries of the European enlightenment which would help bring them into the 20th century by developing their political, economic and social institutions after Western models. This was to prepare them to assume responsibility for themselves once they had learned how to emulate the Europeans.

• • •

Reformism was further inculcated through the establishment of public education to prepare civil servants for the colonies. Students learned about the benefits of the Western system and were encouraged to promote them. European textbooks were adopted. Years later, the author heard an Arab, educated in Palestine, describe his first visit to London. “There was nothing strange about the place. I recognized it immediately. To my surprise I found out that I still remembered the names of all the subway stations!” With bitterness he added, “I was never taught the names of the cities and towns in Palestine.”

• • •

It was not until the 19th century that Muslims found it necessary to reinterpret their religion in response to the Christian challenge—this time in the form of the evangelical Protestant. Many of the missionaries from Europe and the United States sought fervently to convert Muslims to Christianity by undermining the religion of Islam, its teachings and its prophet. Several missionary texts refer to Islam as the religion of the “anti-Christ” or “Satan.” The Prophet Muhammad was pictured as either unwittingly or through calumny the deceiver, or the deceived one, the agent of Satan, fabricating the Koran to lead people astray. While this literature was mainly for the missionaries, it soon found its way into the public domain. To these missionaries, the validation of Christianity was evident through its power, its superior civilization and its humanitarian doctrines that liberate men from bondage to anything save Christ. Islam was portrayed as an inferior religion because of its supposed notion of predestination which was leading to indolence and an affirmation of the bliss awaiting the believers in the hereafter. In this way, Islam itself was presented as the central cause for the retardation of the Muslims.

• • •

It had become evident for some time that although the Arab countries had constitutions and elected parliaments, these institutions were not effective. Some Western observers have blamed the failure of the parliamentary systems on the alien nature of consultative democracy to the Arab mind. Clearly their failure was also hastened by the attitude of the colonial rulers towards such institutions. Whenever foreign governments or their representatives disliked what the democratically elected deputies decided, they tried to countermand their wishes by a variety of means such as seeking their dismissal or applying relentless direct pressure, blackmail or bribery. When Arab governments attempted to use European law to assure freedom and the implementation of the will of the people, it was these same colonial rulers who ridiculed them and treated them as upstarts.

(Haddad (http://www.ameu.org/page.asp?iid=120&aid=163))

Yvonne Haddad's article, "The Islamic Alternative", considers the progression of Muslim peoples from the collapse of the Ottoman empire to the latter twentieth-century:

In Pakistan, Zia Ul-Haqq, upon assuming office, aligned himself with the Jamaati Islam and attempted to implement Islamic laws. Other nations, including Turkey, Egypt, Kuwait, Libya, Bangladesh, the Sudan and Indonesia, introduced various Islamic laws. Syria found it necessary to explain that Baath ideology is grounded in Islam, while Ja’far al-Numeiry of the Sudan has written a book justifying Islamic government, entitled The Islamic System: Why?

(ibid)

The story of Islam and the West since the collapse of the Ottoman empire has been one of exploitation and denigration. The twenty-first century, so obsessed now with the effects of radicalism purportedly justified by Islamic principles, sees the fruits of that exploitation and denigration, offers us the results of blindly looking away from what was happening in plain sight. We could have seen this coming, but it would have meant admitting Western nations made certain mistakes. And, well, that simply won't happen until well after whatever avoidable tragedy has taken place, if it ever happens at all.

"Why do Muslims hate the West"? The answer is more political than anything else. It is found in history. And it is obvious to anyone who looks.
___________________

Notes:

Haddad, Yvonne Y. "The Islamic Alternative". The Link v. 15, n. 4. September-October, 1982. http://www.ameu.org/page.asp?iid=120&aid=163

[Zakariya04]

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Regardless, the people in the Middle East that hate us do so because of the propaganda they are fed by their criminal leaders.

and a lot of them criminal leaders , eg Mubarak of Egypt and the fuckas who are the house of saud are massively backed by the west!!!

but you are right it is bullshit propaganda, either religious or pollitical which sets the enviornment of hate, and this enviornment only helps the fucked up political and or religious leaders of this world, whoc create this enviornment..

[JDawg]

and a lot of them criminal leaders , eg Mubarak of Egypt and the fuckas who are the house of saud are massively backed by the west!!!

but you are right it is bullshit propaganda, either religious or pollitical which sets the enviornment of hate, and this enviornment only helps the fucked up political and or religious leaders of this world, whoc create this enviornment..

I didn't say the West was any better.

[(Q)]

It's more political than anything else.


"Why do Muslims hate the West"? The answer is more political than anything else. It is found in history. And it is obvious to anyone who looks.

Islam and politics are interwoven, one driving the other, it must be so, as with everything else in those societies, lead by Islam.

And it is obvious to anyone who looks.

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Can it happen with Christians in the US?

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[QUOTE=Read-Only;2016973]Is your head always screwed on at a 25-degree angle? Form the majority of your posts, it sure seems that way.
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Absurd blathering.

[QUOTE=Read-Only;2016973]
Sure, the U.S. has done many things that none of us are proud of but you paint everthing with TOO broad a brush as if every American was guilty of all those various charges.
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That statement of yours is 1 of the best possible examples of broad generalizations and quite a puffed up strawman.



I need more time to properly respond to just as bad & even worse.
I can't think of any nation that hasn't done horrible things to its natives & others. When I see those being whitewashed, I might respond accordingly.
The USA is 1 of the few worst, 1 of the most powerful, the most absurdly hypocritical & the 1 which tries the most to be the great teacher, preacher, judge & police of the world. And 1 of the few, if not the, worst stick my nose (and guns) where it does not belong.
Then again maybe I don't need more time.

I see. Yet another with a deep, inbred hatred and jealously of the U.S.

Welcome to the club of S.A.M.

[Adstar]

* Because America alone (and the little America in the Middle East, Israel) prevents the expansion of Islamic rule?

i don't think so. jihad is being waged in southern russia, south east asia, central africa and in india, in most cases the devout muslims are not on the retreat but are on the attack. And the usa and isreal are doing very little to halt these expansions. The existance of isreal is a fact that runs counter to the jihadists view of their destiny to establish a global islamic state. So it's continued existence is a challenge to their faith. All muslims who are true to the teachings of the quran will seek to support the elimination of the modern state of isreal. Any peace agreement will only be a temporary tactic of jihad.


* Because expansionist totalitarian movements, whether Soviet communism or radical Islam, always hate free societies, and America is the strongest free society?

A free society has never existed. There are authorities who grant their citizens more privileges than others. This is sometimes gives their citizens the illusion of freedom. But given the right circumstances the authorities in these supposedly free societies can withdraw many of these privileges as they deem necessary.

The basic structure of democracy being one person one vote, will never be supported and will always be resisted by true muslims. In any land controlled by islam, muslims must dominate and rule other minorities and not only dominate and rule they must ensure that their minorities know that they are subservient and suppressed. Establishing the western concept of democracy (one person one vote) would give a muslim’s Christian or hindu neighbour equal power in the political process. This runs counter to the quran and therefore the establishment of democracy must be resisted with all available force all true muslims can muster.

* Because America is not only strong, it is religious (as opposed to Europe, which is weak and irreligious)?

On the average the authorities in the US are less flexible and give less ground to the demands of outside forces, while over recent history the european authorities have been far more willing to bend to the demands of outside forces. The European authorities have relied on the US authorities to resist, therefore reaping the rewards of US resistance while not paying the same political cost of that resistance.

* Because America is not only Christian; it is Judeo-Christian, the two religions the Islamists need to overcome to expand globally?

There is no such thing as a true Christian state and there never has been. But yes islam must overcome and make subservient the Judeo-Christian religions and all societies not subservient to the quran. This is the call of jihad and until islam is established as the authority over the entire world jihad must be waged by all true muslims.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[Zakariya04]

I didn't say the West was any better.

i know.. i didnt think you were....

but to be fair and i have stressed this before i would much rather live in the west then over in a so called muslim country.. Because in the west (well the mighty UK anyway) i am more free to practice my religion should i choose too.!!

[Atopos]

Muslims don't hate the west.
Muslims ate the west.
Ok this joke sucks. Now, seriously:
The muslim countries that hate the west (for example Turkey is all for entering european union) are mainly those America occupied (Iraq, and let's not forget Afghanistan!) or that generally are poor, dictatorships. People live dressed in rags and with barely any drinkable water, and they get the impression (remember, they have mostly no internet anf newspapers and such) that US/western world is populated by christians (partly true) who want to conquer them and use their oil (true) and who bathe in wealth (not so true unfortunately) exploiting third world countries (true).
So, with this ideas, why not hating the western world? I think anyways it is mostly due to religious leaders propaganda.

- Europe is not christian and weak? Hey, wait a minute! We are almost as Christian as US - we have the pope himself, don't we? - and the fact that we do not attack middle east countries for fun doesn't make europe any weaker. I am in fact proud of the fact that we are not highly militarized.
Besides, British, Spanish (not anymore) and Italian troops are there together with USA soldiers.

[S.A.M.]

Regardless, the people in the Middle East that hate us do so because of the propaganda they are fed by their criminal leaders.

Hmm so if the situation were reversed [they were doing in the west EXACTLY what the west is and has been doing there], you would not hate them?

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

[QUOTE=StrangerInAStrangeLa;2017068][QUOTE=Read-Only;2016973]Is your head always screwed on at a 25-degree angle? Form the majority of your posts, it sure seems that way.
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Absurd blathering.



I see. Yet another with a deep, inbred hatred and jealously of the U.S.

Welcome to the club of S.A.M.

Extreme assumptions, strawman, absurd foaming at the mouth.

[Dr Lou Natic]

It's instinctual. We are rival tribes competing for tenure of the globe. All the religious and political excuses are just that, excuses, attempts to justify our instincts in a way that makes sense to ourselves or other people.

In reality it's just an innate eternal bloodlust muslims/persians/saracens/whatever have for christians/the west/pagans/whities/whatever, and vice versa.
It won't go away untill one extinguishes the other.

[hypewaders]

It's impossible to fuck each other forever, and never mingle enough to give a shit.



-well, maybe it is for ulu.

[Zephyr]

Interesting allegations...
And now for some facts?

Why no reply to this? Q's generalizations are tiresome.

[azriel]

Why do Christians hate the Middle East?

The thing that society is missing about the whole concept of religion is that they're all lies.

Christianity is a lie, the christian bible even says so. Every christian I've ever met breaks every one of God's commandments in that book. Why do you think the Christ called them a brood of vipers and a den of thieves, that they were of their father the devil? The whole conflict between East and West is because they both believe that their religions are the truth when if fact they're both lies. I don't care if you're a muslim, christian, jew, mormon, Buddist or any other false religion, don't blow your horn J.W. you're so far out in left field I worry about you the most. I've listened to them all and they're all wrong and if anybody thinks that some great and mighty wonder is going to come floating down out of the sky and throw a restoratory tea party they have rocks in their heads and if anyone thinks that they're going to go floating up into some imaginary golden bliss well we have medication for that too. For everybody else it's simple, put your head between your legs and kiss your ass good-bye

[Vkothii]

America is the strongest free society?Is it really? Depends how you define "free". If you mean "American freedom" then America would be the place with the most of that. Although they try hard to introduce other parts of the world to "American freedom", starting with Coca-Cola, then McDonald's and cars and TVs. If that doesn't work they start sending soldiers. Good thing we Kiwis like drinking that shitty stuff (except me), and we scoff millions of burgers every year (I don't though), so we're good; there was that little kerfuffle about nuclear-armed ship visits back in the 80s, but we don't have vast oil reserves, thank goodness, so the Yanks aren't worried about building a military base here (yet).
Doesn't the cat that runs Iran say that it's his goal to wipe Israel from the map?Who is this "cat who runs Iran"? I didn't know they had one of those?

[StrangerInAStrangeLa]

Not certain why but I'm reminded of many times someone points "up" saying "That's where I'm going when I die". I often ask them to stay like that for 12 hours then tell me if that's where they're going.

[Medicine*Woman]

The thing that society is missing about the whole concept of religion is that they're all lies.

Christianity is a lie, the christian bible even says so. Every christian I've ever met breaks every one of God's commandments in that book. Why do you think the Christ called them a brood of vipers and a den of thieves, that they were of their father the devil? The whole conflict between East and West is because they both believe that their religions are the truth when if fact they're both lies. I don't care if you're a muslim, christian, jew, mormon, Buddist or any other false religion, don't blow your horn J.W. you're so far out in left field I worry about you the most. I've listened to them all and they're all wrong and if anybody thinks that some great and mighty wonder is going to come floating down out of the sky and throw a restoratory tea party they have rocks in their heads and if anyone thinks that they're going to go floating up into some imaginary golden bliss well we have medication for that too. For everybody else it's simple, put your head between your legs and kiss your ass good-bye
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M*W: Welcome to SciForums! You think along the lines that I do. I'm an ex-christian, and I've researched in depth about those lies. Just be forewarned that the other members of this forum will probably think you are the sock puppet of me, because we think alike. Looking forward to hearing more from you on the Religion Forum.

~ Medicine*Woman

[(Q)]

Interesting allegations...
And now for some facts?

Please note that they are questions. (?)

[JDawg]

Hmm so if the situation were reversed [they were doing in the west EXACTLY what the west is and has been doing there], you would not hate them?

What exactly are they doing...? Oh, right, nothing. See, I understand if you've bought into the same lies, because you've already proven yourself to be an intellectual midget.

The leaders there use America as a scapegoat to keep their people busy hating a distant enemy rather than the real enemy--themselves.

[S.A.M.]

What exactly are they doing...? Oh, right, nothing. See, I understand if you've bought into the same lies, because you've already proven yourself to be an intellectual midget.

The leaders there use America as a scapegoat to keep their people busy hating a distant enemy rather than the real enemy--themselves.

You've been reading too much MEMRI.