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kmguru
09-13-08, 04:46 PM
A conversation with Andrew Bacevich
Bill Moyers Journal, August 15, 2008

Read the part about President Carter and Ronald Reagan in the link. How could this country be so dumb?

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Bacevich_Andrew/BMoyers_ABacevich.html

Starting excerpt:

BILL MOYERS:
Welcome to the JOURNAL.
America's in a pickle. Our friends, the Russians, with whom we were about to conduct joint military exercises, decided instead to attack some of our other friends, the Georgians, who not only aspire to democracy but control access to lots of oil and pipelines in which American energy companies have huge investments. But when President Bush demands Russia go home and leave Georgia alone, his pal Vladimir Putin - the modern Russian czar - gets that sardonic smile on his face.

He knows that American troops are spread so thin in Iraq and Afghanistan that Uncle Sam more resembles Gulliver, tied down by too many commitments, too much hubris, and too many mistakes, than he does to Superman. It's a pickle and a predicament, and it's serious.

The limits of American power have never been more vividly on display. That's the subject of my conversation this week with Andrew J. Bacevich. Here is a public thinker who has been able to find an audience across the political spectrum, from THE NATION or THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE magazines, lecturing to college classes or testifying before Congress.

Bacevich speaks truth to power, no matter who's in power, which may be why those of both the left and right listen to him.
Perhaps it's also because when he challenges American myths and illusions, he does so from a patriotism forged in the fire of experience as a soldier in Vietnam.

After 23 years in the Army, the West Point graduate retired as a colonel and has been teaching international relations and history at Boston University. Bacevich has published several acclaimed books, including this one, THE NEW AMERICAN MILITARISM. His latest, published this week, is THE LIMITS OF POWER: THE END OF AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM.

hypewaders
09-13-08, 08:55 PM
Thanks kmguru- It's a sharp interview. Video Link (http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/08152008/watch.html).

kmguru
09-13-08, 10:20 PM
Thank you. Here is another from him

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/09122008/watch.html

OilIsMastery
09-13-08, 10:30 PM
Bill Moyers and Andrew Bacevich write from a perspective to the Left of Comrade Stalin so it's no surprise that their sympathies lie with the KGB's Fifth Directorate, the Gazprom monopoly, and the Uzbek heroin mafia. At least Stalin understood oil has an abiotic origin and is infinite, these useful idiots on the other hand are just clueless.

Jimmy Carter is a terror enabler and a traitor. If the Founding Fathers were alive today, they would place him against a wall, line up with their muskets, and execute him by firing squad.

Democrats are elated by our dependence on foreign terrorist oil. That's why Carter was always opposed to domestic and offshore drilling. And the idiot put up solar panels on the white house lawn even though the production of one solar panel requires the comsumption of 630 times it's weight in hydrocarbon energy to manufacture.

kmguru
09-13-08, 10:47 PM
Is not that the view point of Adkisson?

OilIsMastery
09-13-08, 10:57 PM
Is not that the view point of Adkisson?
Who is Adkisson?

Billy T
09-24-08, 10:06 AM
To US voters: There is no reason for you to go $5000 /per person more into debt with Paulson’s plan. Please read post 53 at:

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2020983&postcount=53

Paulson's plan helps the banks (and that is necessary) but it can be done with great assistance to Joe American, the real-estate industry, and PROFIT to Uncle Sam, by plan of post 53.

If you prefer recovery plan at post 53, to Paulson's, copy the text and send to your Congressional representatives, NOW.