Hi everyone, Now, I have a semi-interest in all things sci-fi & technology and I happened across a website totally by accident that has left me totally alarmed. http://www.planetx2003.com/index.html My initial response was 'what a joke' But having read the full article, it seems incredibly plausible. I say this mainly because my knowledge of the heavens is limited, but I am curious to know if anyone knows anything about this, specailly with a recent anoucements of new planets being found. Is it a wind up? The rantings of a crazed following? If someone knows any more details, please post...
this has been discussed at the pseudoscience forum. look over there. and my own oppinion and conclusion-> this is bs and if you are refering to the planet Nibru, then actually to the shumer stamps it appears tht Nibru ought to be a planet behind Mars. And because we nowaday find an asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter I find it credible to believe tht your planetX or Nibru is shattered to pieces and all tht is left of it is the nowaday seen asteroid belt oh and Welcome to Sciforums Duffy72
http://www.sciforums.com/t7939/sc6bf79de8c4a6cd96bcc8b0cac25c71f/thread.html http://www.sciforums.com/t6991/sc6bf79de8c4a6cd96bcc8b0cac25c71f/thread.html
Welcome to sciforums, Duffy72. I remember others, some that I have posted, under various names. Many have been the theories that have come through the astromony area... http://www.sciforums.com/t7939/s/thread.html http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6991&highlight=Nemesis http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4131&highlight=Nemesis These are probably duplicates of Avatar's post...
Thanks for the links Guys... it's getting more interesting by the minute this... It's to early for me to make any judgement on this, but obviously, as my knowledge is limited, I'd have to say that I don't believe it. Yet.
Incoming e-mail June 16 2002... Those who may be expecting Planet X sometime soon need to rethink the probabilities.� The 12th planet's last�date of close approach was most likely circa�200 BCE, making the next most likely approach in it's 3,600-year orbit in 3400 AD, or in 1,400 years.� In the interview that follows, Sitchin speculates that Nibiru's orbit may vary.� I don't believe that a variance of 1,400 years to bring it close to Earth in 2003 is�likely.� � What's interesting in this interview from the perspective of the TimeStar is Sitchin's account of why Native America maintained ancient Sumerian lore and beliefs more thoroughly than major world religions.� Bear in mind that Sitchin writes about one faction of extraterrestrials for which he has historical accounts, and Sitchin's focus on one faction does not exclude the very real existence of other extraterrestrial factions.� In other words, Sitchin is an authority on the Nefilim who settled in the Middle East, but he is certainly not an authority on all extraterrestrial activity on this planet from beginning to end.� � I hope this information definitively settles questions about whether Planet X, the 12th planet, will be coming back around in 2003.� The answer is no.� But 2003 will be a geologically active year on Planet Earth for several other reasons.� � Regards, Krsanna �http://www.yowusa.com/Archive/June2002/NIBURU4/niburu4.htm � Will Nibiru Return in 2003? Featuring an Exclusive YOWUSA.COM Interview With Zecharia Sitchin YOWUSA.COM, June 1, 2002 Steve Russell � The recent release of Zecharia Sitchin’s latest book The Lost Book Of Enki, caused a lot of public interest, as well as some unexpected and unwarranted misinformation concerning our destiny and the return of Nibiru. Consequently, some have predicted that Nibiru will fly through our solar system next year and with catastrophic results for our planet. �Is all of this hysteria or fact? We wanted to know so we contacted Zecharia Sitchin with the able help of YOWUSA supporter, Josef Novak.�� In this article, we’ll first we will present our exclusive interview with Zecharia Sitchin in response to a series of written questions submitted to him.� � INTERVIEW WITH ZECHARIA SITCHIN NOTE: The following Q&A interview was conducted over a course of weeks between YOWUSA and Zecharia Sitchin and has been reviewed by him for completeness and accuracy.�� � --- Beginning of Interview --- � YOWUSA: Could you please summarise your research and explain how you managed to beautifully consolidate everything in your latest release “The Lost Book Of Enki”? � SITCHIN: My journey into the Past began as a schoolboy, fortunate to study the Bible (Old Testament) in its original Hebrew. Reaching chapter 6 of Genesis, the teacher explained that in the days before the Great Flood of Noah there were "giants" upon the Earth. But I raised my hand and said: The term in the Bible is Nefilim, which means Those Who Have Come Down/Descended (from Heaven to Earth), not "giants." � Instead of being complimented on my linguistic knowledge, I was reprimanded for "questioning the Bible." The result was an obsession: Who were the Nefilim? What was the significance that they married the Daughters of Adam? Why were they described as the sons (plural) of the Elohim ("gods" in plural)? The lifetime of research led me to the origin of all these tales -- the Great Flood, the Tower of Babel and the Creation of the Adam included -- in the writings, on clay tablets, of the Sumerians, back in time almost six millennia. � In the eight books preceding The Lost Book of Enki (starting with The 12th Planet in 1976).) I presented the textual and pictorial evidence from all the ancient civilizations showing that WE ARE NOT ALONE -- that there is one more planet in our own solar system from which intelligent beings (Nefilim, Elohim, Anunnaki in Sumerian) had come here some 450,000 years ago for their own reasons, and who some 300,000 years ago engaged in genetic engineering to bring about Homo-sapiens by mixing their genes with those of the evolved hominids. Their home planet, which has an elongated orbit around our sun lasting some 3,600 years, was called NIBIRU: "Planet of the Crossing." � The leader of the first expedition to Earth, a great scientist who led the genetic engineering achievement, was called EN.KI ("Lord Earth"). � In 2024 BC the ongoing conflict between clans of the Anunnaki (to use their Sumerian name) resulted in the use of nuclear weapons to obliterate their spaceport in the Sinai Peninsula. The unexpected consequence was the demise of the great Sumerian civilization. � Enki opposed this use of the "weapons of terror." His autobiography, reconstructed by me from almost 800 long, short, undamaged or even fragmented texts, was intended to tell Mankind how it all came about. Thus the culmination of my lifelong writings: The Lost Book of Enki. � YOWUSA: On your web site you quote from an article titled “Comet’s Course Hints at Mystery Planet” in the journal Science dated 6 April 2001: � “A Supercomet following an unexpectedly far-flung path around the sun suggests that an unidentified planet once lurked in the outermost reaches of the solar system, an international team of astronomers reports.� What’s more, the mysterious object may still be there.” � From your research into the historical records of ancient civilisations are all such findings relating to the Sumerian Nibiru? � SITCHIN: The above is just one recent example of a recurring spate of revelations from the astronomical establishment touching on the existence of one more planet in our solar system. Some ten years ago the US Government itself, through its Naval Observatory, led the search for "Planet X" and the team's leader, Dr. Harrington, agreed with my ancient evidence. At that time even The New York Times wrote that all that is left regarding the existence of such a post-Plutonian planet is to name it... (I wrote to the Planetary Society that the planet already has a name: Nibiru). After a hiatus of a decade or so, the "discoveries" of "something" "out there" keep piling up again. � I have no doubt that at the right time -- right in the eyes of whoever decided these matters -- the existence of Nibiru will be officially confirmed. � YOWUSA: On your web site you also quote from an article titled “Neptune Attacks!” in the New Scientist magazine: “There is new evidence that a sudden barrage of deadly debris crashed against the Earth and the Moon 3.9 billion years ago… What triggered this onslaught?� Something in the structure of the Solar System must have changed.” � SITCHIN: This is yet another confirmation by modern science of the Sumerian knowledge.� A long text known as Enuma Elish describes how Nibiru arrived at an early Solar System and collided with an olden planet, causing it’s crash to form the Earth and the Moon. � YOWUSA: So, while the majority in the scientific community may disagree with your research, they are still making open discoveries that are confirming your research. However, many religious leaders still seem to be relatively tight-lipped about acknowledging your research.� Are you disappointed that religion does not seem to be evolving in the way our science is? � SITCHIN: In Sumerian times Religion was Science and Science was Religion. Who is more tight lipped now, to use your words, one wonders. As the two come together, the validity of the ancients' knowledge will also become evident. � There are many priests, ministers and rabbies among my fans.� I report an eye-opening dialogue with a Vatican theologian on my website Sitchin.com. � YOWUSA: Since the whole Hebrew Bible was compiled centuries after Genesis, the first of the five books of the Bible, do you believe that the writer of the Genesis account followed Sumerian beliefs more closely? � SITCHIN: Of Course. The first parts of Genesis, from the tale of Creation through the tales of Adam and Eve, the Garden of Eden, the Tower of Babel, the Great Flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the Wars of the Kings in which Abraham was involved -- are all based on earlier Sumerian records. � YOWUSA: The beliefs of the Native American Indians reflect Sumerian beliefs as you have stated them.� Since major religions have departed from the original Sumerian beliefs, why do you say the Native American beliefs have remained so intact? � SITCHIN: A good question; let me try to answer it: The Anunnaki first established their activities in the Americas after the Great Flood, because the Deluge exposed there vast sources of gold -- the metal for which they had come to Earth (needing it to create a shield to save the atmosphere on Nibiru). The arena for that was South America. The next phase was when the leader known in the Old World as Ningishzidda (in Sumerian) or Thoth (in Egypt) was exiled, and came with his followers to Mesoamerica where he was called the Winged Serpent (Quetzalcoatl). Separated from the wars and feuds of the Old World -- resulting among other things in Religion as we know it today -- the people in the Americas apparently retained the olden knowledge and lore untainted. � YOWUSA: According to your findings, at about 11,000 BC, 7,400 BC, and 3,800 BC as a result of the appearance of Nibiru or the visitation of the Anunnaki, mankind experienced significant technological and/or sociological advances. � For example, the year 3,760 BC coincides with the beginning of the Jewish Calender and according to you the time of the state visit to Earth by Anu (a leader of the Anunnaki or Nibiru) in Nippur, Sumer’s “cult center.” �Assuming a relatively stable orbit for Nibiru, that would place a similar event in 3,440 AD. � According to NOSTRADAMUS scholar John Hogue, the quatrains of Nostradamus predict that the Earth will be destroyed by the expanding Sun in the year 3,797 AD.� Mayan calendars are interpreted to indicate an “ending” at 2012 AD, and so on.� How do such predictions jive with the data on the ancient clay tablets? � SITCHIN: That Mankind's progression from Palaeolithic (Old Stone Age) to Mesolithic (Middle Stone Age) to Neolithic (New Stone Age) and then the great Sumerian civilization, had occurred in intervals of about 3,600 years, is a fact. That Anu visited Earth, approved the grant of civilization (=knowledge, science, technology) to Mankind, marked by the start of the calendar in Nippur in 3760 BC (which is still the Hebrew/Jewish calendar), is certain (as far as I am concerned). � But as I have tried to explain in my recent Seminars (though not yet in a full length book), the visits to Earth and the nearing (at what is called perihelion) of Nibiru do NOT coincide.� This is a point of immense significance, which those who have only read my first book somehow ignore. � Also, the assumption that the 3600 years, as a perfect mathematical given, is also at all times the actual orbital period, is untenable: Even the orbit of Halley's comet, about 75 years, varies from 74 to 76 or so. All attempts to pinpoint a precise date for future arrivals of the planet and/or of the Anunnaki are thus difficult questions. I will answer them once I am satisfied that, based on historical and astronomical data, I have come up with the right answer. � YOWUSA: In retrospect, have there ever been times in your life when you wished that you had never uncovered this knowledge so that you may have lived a much simpler, less informed life? � SITCHIN: No. I am grateful to my fate -- or destiny (the Sumerians distinguished between the two) -- that my teacher told me harshly to "sit down and don’t question the Bible." � I have as a result devoted my lifetime to the study of what the ancients knew, witnessed and recorded. I am grateful that I was given the ability to fathom that evidence and to convey it to my fellow humans -- to let them know how WE had come about, what our Past has been, and thus What the Future holds; because -- as is stated in the Lost Book of Enki and the Bible, the First Things shall be the Last Things. � --- End of Interview --- � For more "discussion" about Planet X, see Pseudo Science... 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Scally's all. A'right there La!. The Scally called Mark Hazlewood nicked the idea from <a href="http://www.zetatalk.com">Nancy Leider</a>. Nancy is a <a href="http://www.kook-watch.net/nancy">a doomsday cultist</a> and nicked the idea from <a href="http://www.sitchin.com">Zecharia Sitchin</a> and Immanuel Velikovsky. The fact that these two 'authors' contradict each other is no conern of her's. She is completely debunked by <a href="http://www.geocities.com/openmindxx">I M Openminded</a> Nothing to worry about, no concerns here.
