Cannibalism

[Avatar]

I'm thinking of researching cannibalism a bit more in depth, but before that I'd appreciate if you could answer my 9 short questions about cannibalism. Thanks!

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?
2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?
3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?
4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?
5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?
6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?
7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?
8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?
9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?

[cosmictraveler]

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?

Anyone who might have a certain taste for human flesh.

2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?

If they ate the flesh of someone in order to survive a catastrophe, yes. Otherwise if they didn't tell me they were then I'd never know.


3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?

NO!:eek:


4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?

I can understand their beliefs but do not think they are correct and would try to influence them to stop the practice if they were my friends.


5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?

Of course there's a difference, human flesh is more fatty, especially the rump areas! :p ;)

6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?

No.


7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?

I never hope that happens but I'd be very disgusted and wouldn't eat wherever that place was again!


8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?

I don't know, I eat for survival myself and at times for pleasure.


9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?


No.

[Cellar_Door]

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?

Monsters like Albert Fish - perverted, unstable individuals.

2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?

No. It would disgust me.

3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?

No. The same way I cannot accept human sacrifice - the word religion shouldn't change anything within rational society.

4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?

No. I could never 'understand' their motives.

5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?

What a stupid question - are you aiming to incense?

6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?

How the hell would I know? I doubt it, but it makes no difference.

7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?

I would either be sick freely or stick fingers down my throat. Then I would call the police, while I sat in horror.

8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?

Ritual meanings? Purification or destruction perhaps? What matter - it's all madness.

9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?

Hell no.

[CheskiChips]

How about cannibals who eat their dead as a sign of respect?

[swarm]

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?

The eucharist

2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?

Any xtian

3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?

Its central to xtianity.

4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?

Willing to understand them? Sure. Dead is dead as far as I'm concerned.

5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?

Are you talking about as a food source or ritual use? There are pretty strong genetic and cultural biases against in species eating as a food source. Most cannibalism is ritual.

Eating of other species is simply predation and there are strong genetic and cultural biases in favor of this.

6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?

As far back as xtianity. Its hard to say about before that.

7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?

I would be surprised since my last lunch was vegitarian.

8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?

It is usually an atttempt to take power from the deceased or control it in some way, like gaining "salvation."

9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?

Can't say I have.

[CutsieMarie89]

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?
A person who eats human meat
2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?
Yes, as long as they weren't killing people, like Hannibal or something.
3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?
Yes, again as long as they aren't killing or harming anyone.
4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?
Yes, whatever makes you happy.
5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?
The only difference is that you are eating your own species, other than that there really isn't a difference.
6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?
Possibly, I don't know anything about my ancestors, I'm descended from African slaves.
7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?
Surprised and kind of angry I don't like surprises.
8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?
I have no idea, I don't understand much about rituals.
9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?

Not that I can recall

[shorty_37]

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?

A person that eats another human.

2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?

The only way I could is if my friend had no other choice and was put in a desperate situation where it was a matter of life or death. If it was for any other reason....NO it's disgusting.

3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?

NO
4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?

Understand, maybe agree with it NO.

5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?

Yes, the whole thing is barbaric to me. One day you are going to lunch with someone and another THEY are lunch.

6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?

I have no idea.

7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?

Absolutely sick to my stomache. I would probably end up vomitting and wouldn't be able to eat anything again for a long time.

8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?

I don't know because I can't even comprehend some of the rituals I have seen performed by various groups. There are some groups out there that do some pretty fucked up things, for their religion or right of passage or whatever you want to call it

9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?

I have some pretty weird and violent dreams, but never about a Cannibalism that I can recall anyway.


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[Orleander]

I'm thinking of researching cannibalism a bit more in depth, but before that I'd appreciate if you could answer my 9 short questions about cannibalism. Thanks!

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"? Used to be the tribesmen of New Guinea and the David Rockerfeller or the Donnor Party. Now its Jeffrey Dahmer and Hannibal Lecter. It was about culture and survival, now its about psychotic murderers
2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal? yes but don't think I'd eat at his house
3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice? Yes. After all isn't communion about drinking the blood of Christ and eating his flesh?
4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites? yes, I could probably understand it better than it being against their religion to donate an organ
5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why? Of course there is. I could go to China and eat dog, but I couldn't eat my pet dog. There is emotion tied to eating things you love. Not a lot of emotion tied to eating a chicken nugget.
6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago? As far as I know, only Sawney Bean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawney_Bean) and no relation. Just the same country
7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why? I'd be pissed for heath reasons. Prions ya know.
8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]? I think it is a very intimate way to say good-bye and thank you. Native Americans feel that way about the animals they eat
9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal? Nope, but I probably will now. lol

anything else?

[Dr Lou Natic]

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?
Black people

2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?
I litterally do have a couple. Tribal Papua New guinean's who went to my highschool as part of some government funded program. Seriously the nicest people you could ever imagine meeting. Out of this world nice.

3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?
Yes

4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?
Hmm, that's a bit weird, eating slaine enemies is easier for me to understand, but different strokes for different folks.

5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?
No significant difference, I've heard certain diseases may spread through cannibalism, but really there are ways to get sick off any food.

6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?
I'm sure at some stage, but not notably in recent times.

7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?
Giggly and excited, but I'd try to just act all non chalante and cool about it.

8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?
I don't know, I could imagine a few different perspectives on it.

9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?
Hmmm, don't think so. I've probably daydreamed about it. I've definately daydreamed about other people doing it, like "wouldn't it be weird if the teacher just suddenly grabbed Vanessa and started violently eating her alive while she screamed in gutwrenching agony as the class looked on in dumbstruck horror", when vanessa was up at the front desk getting her test results back and I was bored, or whatever.

[Syzygys]

Is this thread supposed to make me hungry???

[amethyst08]

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?
People that eat other people or any animal that eat other animal of its own kind.

2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?
I would be very surprised.

3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?
No, it's sickening.

4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?
I'll understand but I won't support it.

5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?
Yes, because I am normal.

6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?
I think so. As far as Neanderthals era, as close as World War II or any famine era (I assume). Can't post link yet but this is from Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism:



Cannibalism has been occasionally practiced as a last resort by people suffering from famine. In the US, the group of settlers known as the Donner party resorted to cannibalism while snowbound in the mountains for the winter. The last survivors of Sir John Franklin's Expedition were found to have resorted to cannibalism in their final push across King William Island towards the Back River.[28] There are disputed claims that cannibalism was widespread during the famine of Ukraine in the 1930s, during the Siege of Leningrad in World War II,[29][30] and during the Chinese Civil War and the Great Leap Forward in the People's Republic of China.[31] There were also rumors of several cannibalism outbreaks during World War II in the Nazi concentration camps where the prisoners were malnourished.[32] Cannibalism was also practiced by Japanese troops as recently as World War II in the Pacific theater.[33] A more recent example is of leaked stories from North Korean refugees of cannibalism practiced during and after a famine that occurred sometime between 1995 and 1997.[34]



7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?
I would feel disgusted and wouldn't want to have lunch at the same place again.

8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?
Eating has ritual meaning? :confused: I eat just to have some energy and nutrition nutrient balance...

9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?
No, I hope not and never will.

[GeoffP]

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anything else?

Yer Scottish divil!

[Rayne_Phoenix]

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?
- Hannibal Lecter
2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?
- It's possible
3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?
- No...
4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?
- That's just... wrong on so many levels
5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?
- Yes and No...
6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?
- There always that chance...
7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?
- Nothing, we eat lots of gross things in our food without noticing it
8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?
- To survive? :shrug:
9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?
- Yes, yes I have... it was interesting...

[Pinocchio's Hoof]

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?
70's Horror films with dodgy porn soundtracks.

2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?
It would be ok till teatime.

3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?
I couldn't accept it as my religious practice, but as long as they were not murdering them first then its down to them.

4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?
Better in the warm belly of a friend,
Than in the cold lonely ground.....think that was from 'Cannibal ferox' 70's flic.

5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?
Socialy yes.

6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?
Everybody's has.

7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?
Like a brandy and a cigar...because its nice after a meal

8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?
There is such a diverse of different cultural meanings associated with food..the preparation..the etiquette of serving..the ceremony of devouring..to plonking yourself down in front of your favourite tv show with your dinner I dont have the time to awnser this properly.

9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?
No

[Cellar_Door]

Everybody's has.

Bollocks. Where's your basis for that?

[Orleander]

So Avatar, have you learned what you expected?

[Avatar]

It's interesting. I didn't expect anything, I was just curious for the results.
I still haven't bought the books I wanted about cannibalism, because I'm currently short of funds and there are more important things to get done.

I promise to put here more relevant info about cannibalism, when I get the chance to learn about it more.

[Orleander]

Bollocks. Where's your basis for that?

Apparently you're not thinking back very far. Neanderthanls ate each other, and I would bet my life that early Homosapians did as well. Learn to make better hunting tools and domesticate animals, you no longer need to eat your enemies or your dead loved ones.

[Avatar]

Neanderthals weren't the ancestors of any living homo sapiens. It's genetically proven.

[Orleander]

I know. Neanderthals ate eachother and so did Homosapians. I didn't mean to imply one evolved from the other.

[Dr Lou Natic]

It's interesting to see how intolerant people seem to be. I don't know if this is an accurate microcosm of society but it seems most people can not accept cannibalism as part of someone else's culture, indicating if given the opportunity they would stop them from doing it, they would interfere with a culture and change it to suit their ideals.
That's bizarre to me, because I assume these people aren't english crusaders from 1100 ad, yet the mentality is still well and truely alive and I guess I naively thought it wasn't.

[Pinocchio's Hoof]

Bollocks. Where's your basis for that?

There was a good thread on neanderthal cannibalism..
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=78165&page=4

Plus if you look into a lot of past cultures ritualistic cannibalism has been rife since the year dot Aborigine's,Aztecs,American indians,the fore tribe,New zealand,Sumatra,India,Egypt,England,Europe in fact you could look at wiki as it will give you a quick insight into it from paleolithic to now...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism#Pre-history


I always thought we evolved from neanderthals but apparently not, both sapiens and neanderthals evolved from the same ape-like creature so as apes do eat other primates there is my basis..

[swarm]

Pinocchio's Hoof
so as apes do eat other primates there is my basis..

Chimps eat other monkeys

[Enmos]

They eat chimps in Africa.. :shrug:
Similar looking species are not the same species.

[Avatar]

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"

Neanderthals in film A Guerra do Fogo.

2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?

I think yes, if he wouldn't try to eat me!

3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?

Sure, to each culture its own.

4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?

I still can't understand the reasons. That's why I plan to buy those books on cannibalism.

5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?

There's a social difference, and a biological, because nasty diseases can be gotten that way.

6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?

Not my immediate ancestors, maybe somewhere in deep prehistory.

7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?

I'm a vegetarian, but I'd try to recall the taste and if I liked it.

8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?

To associate yourself with some power.

9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?

Not that I remember.

[Pinocchio's Hoof]

Chimps eat other monkeys

yes.
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/apes/chimp/

[Orleander]

I want to know,

How would you feel if you found out a person you cared about ate human flesh?
How would you feel if you found out a person you cared about had sex with a dead person?

Is one worse than the other? Why?

[Pinocchio's Hoof]

I want to know,

How would you feel if you found out a person you cared about ate human flesh?
How would you feel if you found out a person you cared about had sex with a dead person?

Is one worse than the other? Why?

I'd feel more uncomfortable around a necrophile than a cannibal, you have to eat or die..you dont have to have cadavar sex unless your perverse.
IMO necrophillia is worse than cannibalism.
One is (could be) down to primative survival instincts the other is down to perverted deviant cravings

[Orleander]

So a man who makes love to his wife soon after death is worse than butchering and eating her after death?

[Dr Lou Natic]

Obviously yes... are you seriously trying to suggest otherwise?
Ugh... orleander, wtf?

[Orleander]

I've skinned a deer. I'm trying to imagine how doing that to a human is better than sex.

[one_raven]

Chimps eat other monkeys

Chimps aren't monkeys - they are apes.

[Kadark]

So, orly, would you get one last quickie from your husband if he croaked?


Kadark

[one_raven]

I've skinned a deer. I'm trying to imagine how doing that to a human is better than sex.

Have you had sex with a dead deer?
Why not?

[Orleander]

Have you had sex with a dead deer?
Why not?

Because its icky dead or alive.

I'm just sayin. Sex is bad, eating is ok. I find that odd.

[Dr Lou Natic]

Omg, don't tell me you frig yourself with dead deer innards orleander, I will lose my shit.

[one_raven]

Because its icky dead or alive.

I'm just sayin. Sex is bad, eating is ok. I find that odd.

Let me put it this way.
Would you have sex with a dead man for any reason?

Would you eat flesh to save you life or your childrens' lives?

Does that help?

[Orleander]

I'd have sex with a dead man to save my children's lives

[one_raven]

I'd have sex with a dead man to save my children's lives

When would that EVER present itself as a valid necessity?

[Orleander]

When would eating a dead person?

[one_raven]

When would eating a dead person?

If you would starve to death by not eating one.
It has happened numerous times.

I can't recall hearing any story about someone having to have sex with a dead body as a matter of survival.

You never answered the question...
Would you eat a person to save the life of yourself or childen?

[jpappl]

Is it ok to eat someone ? the answer is no

When you consider that most animals won't eat a member of their own species it's clearly an instinct to not do so.

I would not only rather starve to death if I had to eat a family member or friend, but I could not fathom eating anyone or any part of one.

Since I do eat meat of various animals I think it allows for eating other animals but not each other.

imo

[one_raven]

Since I do eat meat of various animals I think it allows for eating other animals but not each other.

I don't understand this statement.
Since you like meat it is OK to eat meat, but since you find cannibalism icky to the point of preferring death, that makes it immoral?
Is that what you are saying?

[Orleander]

If you would starve to death by not eating one.
It has happened numerous times.

I can't recall hearing any story about someone having to have sex with a dead body as a matter of survival.

You never answered the question...
Would you eat a person to save the life of yourself or childen?

Of course. I would probably do anything.
So is that the only time cannibalism is ok? To save a life? Not for religious or cultural reason?

[Pinocchio's Hoof]

So a man who makes love to his wife soon after death is worse than butchering and eating her after death?

This is of course unless the 'cannibalistic desire' is also for sexual gratification in which case they are probably as bad as each other as you have to murder first....

Why butchering why not...
So a man who makes love to his wife soon after death is worse than a man taking a slither of flesh of her rump to taste after her death
They are both socialy frowned on but like i said one of them we all may have to resort to if the situation deemed it ,the other is sexual pleasure and there are enough people throughout the world imprisoned for crimes which they committed to fullfill sexual desire

[Pinocchio's Hoof]

When you consider that most animals won't eat a member of their own species it's clearly an instinct to not do so.
What animals (and please don't put any herbivores

I would not only rather starve to death if I had to eat a family member or friend, but I could not fathom eating anyone or any part of one.
Hmmm if i was in a situation whereby i was with loved ones and i was dying i would insist that they used me for food as these would be people that i loved therefore would not want them to die, its only a corpse,meat,lifeless body.
I'm sure there would be people like you who would rather die than break social taboo even though their lives depended on it..pointless though as all over the world races have been cannibals at some point in time

Since I do eat meat of various animals I think it allows for eating other animals but not each other.
Meat is meat whether with 4 or 2 feet..
You need food for nutrition to live..
You eat whats available,to survive or you lay down and die....

So how would you feel...as the rest of your party get stronger while you get weaker as they get there nutrition the best way they can...you will soon realise that you are the next to be eaten because you are too weak from malnutritionto do anything plus you have turned down your chance of survival because you worry about eating flesh only to be eaten by the people you care about..lol you are low down on the food chain friend

[jpappl]

Pinocchio,

Wolves, Lions, Bears, All the large cats, pretty much every large mammal predator and of course pretty much all the omnivores and all the herbivores, except for the ones we feed cow/sheep parts to and end up with mad cow !

"Hmmm if i was in a situation whereby i was with loved ones and i was dying i would insist that they used me for food"

Well that is a personal request that you could offer, but what if you were already dead. What if aunt Mary was dead, and you were starving, would you eat her ?

"lol you are low down on the food chain friend"

If this is how you look at life I feel sorry for you. Look at what your saying, your turning the dead into a reality show. He who comes out on top is the winner, the winner of what, rotten human flesh !

I would be more inclined to say you are the bottom feeder.

I would rather die with some dignity and I would certainly die trying to eat other things than my sister, brother or other.

[Orleander]

....I would rather die with some dignity and I would certainly die trying to eat other things than my sister, brother or other.

and if you had children to feed?

[Dr Lou Natic]

Or children to sexually gratify, dieing of horniness, you'd just have to use a dead body. Right orleander? (seriously I don't know wtf you were talking about before, but it seems wrong to let it go).

[Orleander]

Or children to sexually gratify, dieing of horniness, you'd just have to use a dead body. Right orleander? (seriously I don't know wtf you were talking about before, but it seems wrong to let it go).

I'm just saying, I don't understand how eating a body for religious or cultural reasons is better than having sex with a dead body. None of it is necessary.

Why isn't it all treated with the same revulsion?

[Dr Lou Natic]

Because there's no comparison? When I see someone eating a hamburger, I'm like "whatever", when I see someone sticking their dick in a hamburger, I want to punch them in the back of the head.
Fucking a dead body is perverse, eating one is eating one. You can only be so disgusted by what someone eats, you know, if they're eating a shit then yeah that's fucked up, it's really bad don't get me wrong, but if they're fucking a shit, well, that's just infuriating. How dare they?

What someone wants to do with a dead human body just says a lot about them. If someone's first choice would be to eat the body, what do we learn? They're hungry? Who cares. At worst they're inclined to disregard our social standards that state you shouldn't eat people, whatever really. I personally would choose to tape the dead body to a stick and shake it at children to frighten them, so I also disregard social standards, I'm just not hungry.
In the case of choosing to fuck the dead human body, to hump it untill you orgasm inside of it/on it, that too disregards social standards, PLUS it's a disgustingly perverse choice and the person who makes it is clearly scum.
This should be so strongly hardwired into everyone that it needs no further explanation, if you see someone fucking a dead body you see someone making the most disgracefull choice possible, and proving themselves to be the worst kind of person on earth, no contest.
Even asking the question, "why is eating a dead body better than fucking it?" makes one raise an eyebrow at the person asking it. Why do you have to ask that?

Weren't you also vocal in supporting the sick freak who was effing his comatose wife? Are you deranged by any chance?

[PsychoticEpisode]

Avatar.....I'm thinking of researching cannibalism a bit more in depth, but before that I'd appreciate if you could answer my 9 short questions about cannibalism. Thanks!

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?

As an embryo I needed nourishment from my mother, then as an infant I needed her breastmilk, later on I shared saliva when I kissed a woman, licking my girlfriend gave me the taste, & sharing bodily fluids during oral sex, cannibalism or not?

2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?

My girlfriends would taste me and derive nourishment from me on occasion, if you know what I mean? I had a good buddy who received a blood transfusion once, does that count?

3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?
I have a problem with any religious practice. Does symbolically dining on the body of Christ count?

4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?

Yes but it's not for me. Cook it first

5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?

No. Meat is meat

6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?
Irish are more concerned with drinking and fighting, so I suppose after punching someone's face you might lick your fingers afterwards and get a little sampling of them.

7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?

I might be worried that it contained some bad bugs. I don't like things raw so I wouldn't have eaten it unless it was cooked. Wouldn't want to contract Kuru either.

8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?

Garnering the other person's strengths

9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal

No.

[Pinocchio's Hoof]

:bugeye:Pinocchio,

Wolves, Lions, Bears, All the large cats, pretty much every large mammal predator and of course pretty much all the omnivores
SORRY I think your wrong here they all will eat there young in hard times..and a hell of a lot of omnivores will....cats,dogs,foxes,apes,insects,birds,rabbits ,mice,rats,hamsters..male bears will eat a female's cubs to make her come into season again so he can mate with her.

Well that is a personal request that you could offer, but what if you were already dead. What if aunt Mary was dead, and you were starving, would you eat her ?
If it was a matter of life and death of course why die ? whats the point in that? if it was me who was dying i would insist that they used me...why die when you can live....

if this is how you look at life I feel sorry for you. Look at what your saying, your turning the dead into a reality show. He who comes out on top is the winner, the winner of what, rotten human flesh !
Live or Die thats the choice no game

I would be more inclined to say you are the bottom feeder.
You have completely missed the point...!
Through you being adamant that you would rather die than eat human flesh (of someone you know) then (in certain situations) you would automaticaly be FOOD therefore you would be eaten therefore it puts you lower on the food chain than someone who eould eat flesh even aunt maud..

I would rather die with some dignity and I would certainly die trying to eat other things than my sister, brother or other.
We all would but we are talking about survival if your brather and sister are already dead what is the point in you dying too? thats daft

[Pinocchio's Hoof]

P.S. im not trying to insinuate that we we should all dine on our family just about if the situation arose whereby it was a necessity to survive..

[John99]

Hello PH.

Survive for how long? Perhaps if i saw an end in sight to the situation then maybe..maybe.

In any case, i would rather not. It is a personal goal to get through life without eating another human so if it was to survive but a few weeks longer. I dont know. For some will see this as a breach in basic humanity. I would rather not eat bugs either.

[Orleander]

.....Are you deranged by any chance?

I don't think icky is immoral. If I did then homosexuality would be immoral, S&M would be immoral, organ donation would be immoral, autopsies would be immoral, etc. If it doesn't hurt another person, I have no issues with it. If I'm dead, I don't care what happens to my body. Not one bit.

You do. You care what happens to a dead person.

[Enmos]

I don't think icky is immoral. If I did then homosexuality would be immoral, S&M would be immoral, organ donation would be immoral, autopsies would be immoral, etc. If it doesn't hurt another person, I have no issues with it. If I'm dead, I don't care what happens to my body. Not one bit.

You do. You care what happens to a dead person.

What if it hurts someone (or something) no one cares about ?

[Orleander]

for example...

[John99]

I would be pissed if someone planned on eating me when i died. They certainly would not get my permission.

[Orleander]

I would be pissed if someone planned on eating me when i died. They certainly would not get my permission.

then it is immoral to do so.
What if you said they couldn't have your organs but you were a perfect match to a a young teen. Would it be immoral for your spouse to say "take it and keep the kid alive"?

[Pinocchio's Hoof]

Hello PH.

Survive for how long? Perhaps if i saw an end in sight to the situation then maybe..maybe.

In any case, i would rather not. It is a personal goal to get through life without eating another human so if it was to survive but a few weeks longer. I dont know. For some will see this as a breach in basic humanity. I would rather not eat bugs either.

Hello Mr John :)

If there was no end possible to the situation then there is no point in prolonging the agony if it was justto survive for a few weeks more but then death was inevitable then no...but for instance (the most highlighted case) the football team in the andes if they hadn't eaten their friends they would have died and i'm sure some refused to eat it did die..
If there was a chance of rescue from the predicament you were in then you have to do anything you can to survive, I could eat someone i know to live but, I couldn't kill them to do it, for me that would be moraly wrong..

I would rather not eat celery.

[John99]

Hello Mr John :)

...but for instance (the most highlighted case) the football team in the andes if they hadn't eaten their friends they would have died and i'm sure some refused to eat it did die..
If there was a chance of rescue from the predicament you were in then you have to do anything you can to survive, I could eat someone i know to live but, I couldn't kill them to do it, for me that would be moraly wrong..

I would rather not eat celery.

Hey there buddy:),

That case is what i was thinking about also. I watched a movie (long time ago) and saw a documentary on it.

It is hard to say because people react differently when actually confronted with it but i am kind of stubborn. I just cannot say for sure.:shrug:

[Orleander]

There was a guy on the plane who's wife died in the crash. The others made sure that the meat he did eat never came from his wife.

They were only rescued when others walked out and found help. It was never coming for them.

[kenworth]

I'm thinking of researching cannibalism a bit more in depth, but before that I'd appreciate if you could answer my 9 short questions about cannibalism. Thanks!

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?

primitive,savage,occultist

2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?

depends on the situation

3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?

again,depends.if it was a part of funeral rites i dont really have any problem with it other than the hygeine aspect.

4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?

oh.

5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?

yes a big one.i think that if you served someone a slice of human and only told them after what it was the impact wouldnt be that great other than an outward show to save face,however if someone had to carve the flesh off of a dead human i doubt they would be the same after.

6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?

hmm.,not that i know of.i think maybe the druids did a line in sacrifice but i dont think they ate anyone.

7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?

sick,i guess.because i had consumed flesh of my own species.wouldnt feel comfortable eating ape either i dont think.
pissed off with the person who fed it to me without telling me what it was.

8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?

massively important,when you eat something is becomes a part of you in one way or another.

9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?
no,but i probably will now.



yjjy

[Dr Lou Natic]

You do. You care what happens to a dead person.
Not exactly, it bothers me what other people want to do. I don't care about the body, I care that the freak wants to fuck it. I want to isolate and ridicule the freak for having such a desire, perhaps put a big sandwich board sign on him and pelt him with tomatoes.

I think you're overlooking this, like "so what, the coma wife probably isn't being hurt" and "so what? a dead body can't feel anything", totally ignores the fact that the husband and necrophiliac ARE disgustingly satiating perverse urges, and should be punished.

[Mr. Hamtastic]

I'm all for auto-erotic necrocannibalism.

[swarm]

Dr Lou Natic
disgustingly satiating perverse urges, and should be punished.

Where is the line between "disgustingly satiating perverse urges" and "disgusting prude control freak?"

[Pinocchio's Hoof]

hmm necrophiliac's as in...

Dennis nilsen....
Ed gein...
Ted bundy...
Edmund Kemper...
Fred and Rose west...
Henry Lee lucas....
Jeffrey Dhamar....

Some of these were also cannibals too..
oh cannibals....

Albert Fish..
Andre Chikatilo...


Some people have no choice "Eat flesh or die"

Cannibals by circumstance...

1846 george donner and 89 people.....46 survived
1972 rugby players from chilie...... 16 survived

There is a massive difference between 'A crimminal cannibal' and 'A cannibal of circumstance' apparently there is 4 types of crimminal cannibalism..Sexual,Agressive,Spiritual/Ritual,Epicurean/Nutritional..


There is no such thing as a necrophiliac by circumstance that i know of only crimminal....!

[alaska1976]

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?
1a.The Donner party, chewing on skin around my finger nails and relishing the taste. ;)
2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?
2a. Not unless I could grow eyes on the back of my head while being around them.
3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?
3a. As long as the deceased have signed a legal statement they wish to donate their body to that religions meal time, yes.
4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?
4a. The practice is done today in certain societies.
5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?
5a. Haven't actually fried some human meat for a while, have to get back to you on this one.
6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?
6a. If I like raw meat does that insinuate they may have been?
7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?
7a. Full? I want more?
8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?
8a. To put off starvation?
9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?
9a. Not yet. Anything is possible I guess.

[FelixC]

I'm thinking of researching cannibalism a bit more in depth, but before that I'd appreciate if you could answer my 9 short questions about cannibalism. Thanks!

why? school project? really getting into goth?

remind me never to visit you

[FelixC]

hmm
1. Some of these were also cannibals too..
[B]oh cannibals....
Albert Fish..
Andre Chikatilo...

2. Some people have no choice "Eat flesh or die"
Cannibals by circumstance...
1846 george donner and 89 people.....46 survived
1972 rugby players from chilie...... 16 survived

gruesome topic
1. I find it ironic that someone thats a "fish" would eat human
2. if I'm dead already I guess it doesn't matter, but if I'm alive, I'd volunteer to go get help before things get desperate, specially if Avatar's around

[Captain Kremmen]

If you were at a friend's barbecue, and someone offered you a piece of meat and said "Try, this, it's a Mexican" (Or Alaskan or whatever)

You'd have a taste wouldn't you?

[Enmos]

If you were at a friend's barbecue, and someone offered you a piece of meat and said "Try, this, it's a Mexican" (Or Alaskan or whatever)

You'd have a taste wouldn't you?

Probably, because I would know that he was kidding.
But if the meat looked weird I wouldn't.
If I would believe it I would respectfully decline and then sneak out and call the cops :p

[Orleander]

If you were at a friend's barbecue, and someone offered you a piece of meat and said "Try, this, it's a Mexican" (Or Alaskan or whatever)

You'd have a taste wouldn't you?

I agree with Enmos, I'd call the cops.

[Search & Destroy]

I agree with Enmos, I'd call the cops.

You wouldn't try it first? Eh, how could anyone resist?

[Orleander]

You wouldn't try it first? Eh, how could anyone resist?

If I wasn't told what it was, I'd try it. He could tell me it was dog or rat and I'd eat it.
If I was in a culture that practiced cannibalism, I'd eat it. But a neighbor offering it to me? Nope!

[swarm]

If I was in a culture that practiced cannibalism, I'd eat it. But a neighbor offering it to me? Nope!

Cultures which actually practice cannibalism usually have very strong ritual contexts surrounding the eating of people. Generally you aren't going to just be offered a bite.

I find it odd that you would just abandon your ban on cannibalism simply because others are ok with it culturally. I would politely decline myself.

You might want to also consider that peoples who regularly practice cannibalism are subject to Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease, a particularly nasty and degenerative way to die. (a form of prions like BSE or "mad cow")

FYI, people are supposed to taste a lot like pigs. So much so that the Hawaiians called human "long pig."

[Orleander]

...I find it odd that you would just abandon your ban on cannibalism simply because others are ok with it culturally. I would politely decline myself....

Because I'd be thinking the person had died and they were eating the person to honour them. I wouldn't think the person had been murdered so that they could be eaten.

[Captain Kremmen]

I can hardly believe what I'm reading here.
You people are snitches. And food faddists.
I bet you wouldn't eat anyone, no matter how nice they tasted.

I would draw the line at people who had been murdered just for the barbecue.
I would probably snitch too in that case.
But what about roadkill. How could that do any harm?

[Orleander]

...But what about roadkill. How could that do any harm?

gravel. It hurts my teeth

[Captain Kremmen]

Gravel. Best avoided.
I'm very careful with my teeth, since my last dental bill caused by a Christmas gift of Toffee.

What kind of moron gives you toffee for Christmas anyway?

[Orleander]

Gravel. Best avoided.
I'm very careful with my teeth, since my last dental bill caused by a Christmas gift of Toffee.

What kind of moron gives you toffee for Christmas anyway?

:wave: I make toffee for xmas

[Captain Kremmen]

That figures.
People like you are a menace.
And you have the cheek to look down on decent cannibals.:mad:

[Cellar_Door]

There was a good thread on neanderthal cannibalism..
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=78165&page=4

Plus if you look into a lot of past cultures ritualistic cannibalism has been rife since the year dot Aborigine's,Aztecs,American indians,the fore tribe,New zealand,Sumatra,India,Egypt,England,Europe in fact you could look at wiki as it will give you a quick insight into it from paleolithic to now...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism#Pre-history


I always thought we evolved from neanderthals but apparently not, both sapiens and neanderthals evolved from the same ape-like creature so as apes do eat other primates there is my basis..

None of this means "we all are [descended from cannibals]." That's what I contested. It seems like someone can just state something with some surety and no evidence and it's an indisputable fact.

[Cellar_Door]

There was a guy on the plane who's wife died in the crash. The others made sure that the meat he did eat never came from his wife.

They were only rescued when others walked out and found help. It was never coming for them.

Exactly - in that situation you don't just 'decide to starve'. They could have been rescued at any moment, or else an opportunity to escape could have presented itself. It sounds very obvious, but staying alive is crucial to survival. And our desire to survive is the strongest instinct we possess.

However, such rare extenuating circumstances are almost irrelevant to the discussion. The OP put a strong emphasis on the ritualistic and religious side of cannibalism. That is, when eating human flesh is acceptable in every day routine.

[Orleander]

..That is, when eating human flesh is acceptable in every day routine.

Then I'd do it. If it was part of my culture, why wouldn't I?

[Liebling]

I don't see how it's any different from burying them in a cemetary that you go visit, making them into a gem, or putting an urn on your mantlepiece. You are preserving their memory in a morbid way, since their soul has long left their body and the body is simply a vessel of life. Once the electricity is gone and the lights are out, it's no longer the person you knew and loved. It's simply a corpse. If people choose to remember their loved ones that way, why should they be prevented from doing so? How is that any more morbid and disgusting than taking up large amounts of valueable land to let the body rot beneath the surface? How is that any different from scattering their dust to the wind, where it can be breathed in, or spilled on your aunties carpet for the dog to lick up?

We have a reverence for the human body because it was once inhabited by the electricity that formed our loved ones... but we all can let go of that in different ways and it doesn't really matter once the magic is gone, does it? What is the body but rotting pounds of flesh? Why do we have more reverence for a human than we do for our best cow, who fed us and was happy to see us each day? Who provided milk and fertilizer, and other cows for us to enjoy? If cows could talk, would you stop eating them too?

[Orleander]

... If cows could talk, would you stop eating them too?

Hell yes!:eek:

[Liebling]

Why?

[charles brough]

I'm thinking of researching cannibalism a bit more in depth, but before that I'd appreciate if you could answer my 9 short questions about cannibalism. Thanks!

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?
2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?
3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?
4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?
5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?
6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?
7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?
8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?
9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?
Interesting thread . . .

First of all, you might use the word "cannibal" with more precision. Some livestock are fed parts of their kind mixed with other food. Does that make them "cannibal cows"? In other words, the whole word is a perjorative that covers a wide-range of little to immense wrong.

The eating of one's own species is unnatural and "wrong" in that there is a brain toxin that is sometimes passed on in the process. There are examples of it in nature, but it is not common. It occurs among humans in tribes that include the rite in their religion. There is not much in primative tribes that we should emulate. It was also common to the Neanderthal.

If I knew someone who was trapped mid-ocean in a disabled boat in which he and others were forced to eat those who parished, I would ask questions but would otherwise feel no different towards him afterward than before. Not being part of our religion, I consider it a practice excusable only in a case of dire survival. Criminals who have been in the news as eating their victims are doubly reprehensible to me and I take it as an insult to the victims.

charles
http://atheistic-science.com

[Drphail]

i'm a cannibal, but i only eat babies

[JustLovely]

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?

Anyone who might have a certain taste for human flesh.

2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?

If they ate the flesh of someone in order to survive a catastrophe, yes. Otherwise if they didn't tell me they were then I'd never know.


3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?

NO!


4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?

I can understand their beliefs but do not think they are correct and would try to influence them to stop the practice if they were my friends.


5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?

Of course there's a difference, human flesh is more fatty, especially the rump areas! :p ;)

6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?

No.


7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?

I never hope that happens but I'd be very disgusted and wouldn't eat wherever that place was again!


8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?

I don't know, I eat for survival myself and at times for pleasure.


9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?


No.:bugeye:

[vslayer]

answered inside quote

I'm thinking of researching cannibalism a bit more in depth, but before that I'd appreciate if you could answer my 9 short questions about cannibalism. Thanks!

1. What are your first associations with the word "cannibal"?
the electronics definition - making new computers and such from pieces of old ones.

2. Could you have a friend that's a cannibal?
absolutely; provided they didn't murder for their meat I'd probably hold them in higher regard than my carnivorous friends.

3. Can you accept cannibalism as a part of a religious practice?
no religious practices make sense to me, why would this more than any other?

4. Would you be willing to understand those people who eat their dead family members as a part of their burial ceremony rites?
provided the body wasn't otherwise destined for medical or scientific purposes, i suppose its better that someone get a meal out of it than wasting space in the ground with it.

5. Do you think there is any difference between eating a human animal and an animal of any other species, why?
killing: yes - a human is able to consent. Eating: no - its all just flesh

6. Have your ethnic ancestors been cannibals, how long ago?
unsure. definitely not in the last 7 generations, but I don't really know any further back than that.

7. What would you feel if you learned that you ate human flesh last lunch, why?
somewhat grossed out. i havent let anyone cook for me in about 8 years, as who knows what meat eaters could be putting in my food.

8. What do you think is the ritual meaning(s) of eating [anything]?
not a hell of a lot, most rituals are outdated and no longer serve any useful purpose.

9. Have you ever dreamed that you or someone you know is a cannibal?
not to my memory