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DeepThought
07-31-08, 04:25 PM
Man decapitated on Canadian bus (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7535840.stm)
A man on a Greyhound bus travelling across the Canadian Prairies has killed and decapitated a fellow passenger.
An eyewitness said the victim was stabbed 50 or 60 times by the man sitting next to him, who then severed his head with a large knife.
The bus made an emergency stop to allow passengers to escape and the driver barred the door from the outside while waiting for the police to arrive.
The bus was travelling from Edmonton, Alberta, to Winnipeg, Manitoba.
Greyhound Canada said there were 37 passengers and a driver aboard the bus.
"All of a sudden, we all heard this scream, this bloodcurdling scream," passenger Garnet Caton told CBC television.
"The attacker was standing up right over the top of the guy with a large hunting knife - a survival, Rambo knife - holding the guy and continually stabbing him... in the chest area," Mr Caton added.
'Like a robot'
The attack continued as passengers fled the bus and waited for police on a desolate stretch of the TransCanada Highway near Portage la Prairie, Manitoba.
"He calmly walks up to the front [of the bus] with the head in his hand and the knife and just calmly stares at us and drops the head right in front of us," Mr Caton said.
"There was no rage in him ... It was just like he was a robot or something," he added.
A man was taken into custody by police at around 0100 (0700 GMT) on Wednesday night, according to reports.
Mr Caton said he and a truck driver helped the bus driver bar the bus door to prevent the attacker from leaving.
When the attacker tried to drive the bus away, the driver disabled the vehicle.
"Some people were puking, some people were crying, other people were in shock ... everybody was running, screaming off the bus," Mr Caton said.
The Royal Canadian Mounted Police said only that a "major incident" took place on the bus as it drove along the Trans-Canada Highway en route to Winnipeg from Edmonton.
Other passengers said that the attacker and his victim were sitting at the back of the bus and the victim, described as around 20 years old, was listening to music through headphones.
The attack appeared to be unprovoked and it is thought the killer did not know his victim.
Any ideas?
DeepThought
07-31-08, 04:32 PM
A bit more gruesome detail:
According to CBC News, the attacker was seated next to his victim, who was sleeping with headphones on, when he began stabbing him repeatedly with a large knife.
The suspect had been on the bus for about an hour and didn't even sit near his victim at first.
"He sat in the front at first, everything was normal," Passenger Garnet Caton said.
"We went to the next stop and he got off and had a smoke with another young lady there. When he got on the bus again, he came to the back near where I was sitting."
When the victim began screaming, the bus pulled over and more than 30 passengers fled. The driver, along with a passenger and a trucker who had stopped at the scene then boarded the bus in an attempt to help the victim, the CBC reported.
"When we came back on the bus, it was visible at the end of the bus he was cutting the guy's head off and pretty much gutting him up," Caton told the CBC.
The attacker reportedly lunged at the three men, who managed to trap him inside the bus until authorities arrived.
"While we were watching the door, he calmly walks up to the front with the head in his hand and the knife and just calmly stares at us and drops the head right in front of us," said Caton.
Fellow passenger Cody Olmstead told Brandon radio station CKLQ that the man "dropped the head and went back and started cutting the body back up."
According to the CBC, passengers were traumatized by the event and many required counseling after witnessing the brutal attack.
Buffalo Roam
07-31-08, 04:34 PM
Fellow passenger Cody Olmstead told Brandon radio station CKLQ that the man "dropped the head and went back and started cutting the body back up."
A Bar-B-Q?
DeepThought
07-31-08, 04:39 PM
Fellow passenger Cody Olmstead told Brandon radio station CKLQ that the man "dropped the head and went back and started cutting the body back up."
A Bar-B-Q?
This isn't funny!
Enters "decapitation, Canada, bus" into YouTube search facility.
spidergoat
07-31-08, 05:17 PM
I hate it when people listen to their headphones too loud. It's time someone was willing to do something about it.
Spud Emperor
07-31-08, 05:47 PM
Some people will do anything to get ahead.
:bugeye:
You people find this amusing? Sick.
Orleander
07-31-08, 06:21 PM
I bet the guy fell asleep and his head fell over onto the other guy. He woke up this morning not knowing that a random passenger sitting next to him on a bus would chop his head off.
It could happen to any of us.
cosmictraveler
07-31-08, 06:25 PM
Wasn't Myles altready ranting about this a few days ago here:
http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=83070&highlight=decapitation
Perhaps someone here got an idea?:shrug:
Orleander
07-31-08, 06:28 PM
I wish all the male Canadians who post here would check in. What if it was Neitch? Oh, well, I guess what's her name would let everyone know.
glaucon
07-31-08, 06:42 PM
I wish all the male Canadians who post here would check in.
...
Check in on what?
Orleander
07-31-08, 06:51 PM
Check in here and say "Hey, I wasn't the cutter or cuttee"
Some people will do anything to get head.
Corrected. ;)
Challenger78
07-31-08, 07:33 PM
Dude. freaky Bus trip...
shorty_37
07-31-08, 07:57 PM
I wish all the male Canadians who post here would check in. What if it was Neitch? Oh, well, I guess what's her name would let everyone know.
Who is what's her name? :bugeye:
Maybe you should take a bus ride into Canada wearing your crown. You can tell the ppl of Canada about your
ideas about having a State/ Province Curfew put into place here. Let's see what happens to you.
Idle Mind
07-31-08, 09:12 PM
<-- Male and Canadian. Not that anyone in here knows who I am.
This is really quite messed up. People are crazy.
He sounds like a mentally ill person.
shorty_37
07-31-08, 10:00 PM
It will be interesting to hear more about this. The only thing they said on the News was the attacker was a 40 yr old man. They wouldn't give any details about the victim yet.
I think its time all immigrants should get special id cards and mental exam should be necessory. I have a feeling he was of a certain religion i, at least that is what all the blogers are talking about.. maybe it a was an honor killing... come on guys in usa its always some one from middle east who does things like that... atleast thats what they say in the media..so maybe some one from canada can confirm it or give more input?
nietzschefan
08-01-08, 12:47 AM
I think its time all immigrants should get special id cards and mental exam should be necessory. I have a feeling he was of a certain religion i, at least that is what all the blogers are talking about.. maybe it a was an honor killing... come on guys in usa its always some one from middle east who does things like that... atleast thats what they say in the media..so maybe some one from canada can confirm it or give more input?
Jesus Christ people, it's not like we can just ask our neighbors wtf happened 2000miles away in Manitoba. Canada is the 2nd largest land mass Nation in the world. There are more than 5 people in Canada lol
If Sciforumites are looking for an inside track on the news, they need to be asking for People in MANITOBA or Saskachewan. Asking for people from "Canada" to weigh in on this, is kinda like asking for some one in the United States of America to please spill the beans on some event in the Ozarks.
CNN will have the news on it faster than any Canadian News.
madanthonywayne
08-01-08, 01:03 AM
MOD HAT
Please stick to the topic, stop insulting each other, and stick to the known facts rather than trying to pin this crime of some race/religion.
he could have been extremely irritated by his headphones and thought he was doing it in half awaked state...
it happens...
it could be a government work of some sort, controlling people actions to kill. A heartless soldier of a sort, programmed by CIA to kill the target without pity.
Or perhaps he had something wrong with his brain, went insane and could care less for the boredom of life so he decided to spice it up...
Another possibility is that this event did not happen at all and it is a media conspiracy to get people to not take Greyhound buses and travel by air...in these very expensive oil times the aircraft travel business is suffering so they decided to use fear to make us take something else besides the bus
Another possibility is that all of the people inside the bus were involved in the death and they hid some of the facts regarding his death and thus decided to use this innocent man to label him as a murderer.
Also...aliens could have been controlling him, from afar, a purpose is unknown.
Perhaps, he did do it after all, and the reason he started cutting the teenager is because of the rap songs which were extremely hypnotizing and talked about violence and cutting heads off...
Perhaps he did it because his life was so dull and that way he decided he will be remembered for as a carnage in the bus scene...
Wow, seven posts?
Why can't you just accept the fact, dragon, that some people decide it's time to cut another person's head off?
Also, what if the man was insane long time before this event...what if he killed many more people in the rampage and bloody carnage and this is how he decided to end the terror in his mind from all those lives he has taken.
Wow, seven posts?
Why can't you just accept the fact, dragon, that some people decide it's time to cut another person's head off?
people do not just go cutting people heads off...especially with morbid cold faces devoid of any emotions
A possibility exists that this man did in fact know the teenager he has killed and did kill him so violently because he raped his girl back a some time ago and now he had planned a perfect kill scene to avenge for his raped girlfriend.
Also, the man could have drank something and both of them in the back of the bus slowly sipping on vodka had not agreed on an argument, and before the other spoke foul to the man he sliced him up.
But, it could be that back in the city of this murderer he came to this old lady who told him of this future and that a teenager of 20 years of age will kill him sometime in the future and so he decided that what the lady told him of the future is true and so he went and sliced the head of the man so that he does not get to kill him just as the lady predicted.
This guy just did.
exactly...so I am trying to explain why it happened.
Perhaps he is the average product of the immoral age were people are hypnotized by the media violence and violence in games and decide that their lifes are too dull so they make it reality...and so he brough the big Rambo knife after watching the Rambo movie (which just showed recently) and cut the guy up so that he felt like Rambo. ...or maybe he wanted to feel like a ninja
What if, it was all an accident. What if he was just looking at his shiny knife and accidentaly it flew right into the guy's neck and sliced him up real good...and before you know it everyone started looking. Overwhelmed with emotions the dude with the knife could not show any emotions anymore and so he went into an automatic mode, frenzy.
Perhaps, this is no ordinary accident...
http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Terminator/terminator_movie.jpg
he came from the future to kill this teenager because in the future he would make some sort of chip which would destroy the corporation profits in the future...
What if he is an assassin, he goes around doing the dirty business for people...and usually he does not get caught, but this time the people hear the victim cry out and he could do nothing to escape. His plan was to cut him up into pieces, put him into small plastic shopping bags and put those bags into bags of other passengers. But someone heard the victim or saw him kill the 20 year old and the plan collapsed.
What if he was sleeping...and had a bad dream...and he was moonwalking with open eyes. Its not his fault, its the fault of the newly approved drugs for sleeping which active REM sleep but allow the person to move their muscles in their sleep. He thought he was protecting his girl from a monster in his dream but instead was actually moonwalking and cut the head of the 20 year old...that would also explain his gaze
Perhaps he was taking drugs, one of those illegal drugs that make you hallucinate but this time it went real bad for him, he saw monsters and in the back of the bus were it was dark and noisy from the motor he though he saw an evil monster with huge ears (headphones) and red eyes in the boy...so he cut the head of, thinking he was saving the rest of passengers.
But the heroin slowly weared off...of course it was too late than, the cops got him and the victim was dead.
Or maybe...
if we believe in spirits.
Maybe a demon spirit went inside him and the evil controlling his body has caused him to do such devilish acts.
I declare this thread a draqon troll fest.
hey are you framing the guy or something? You have not given your assumptions on why he did it.
people do not just go cutting people heads off...especially with morbid cold faces devoid of any emotions
This guy just did.
Challenger78
08-01-08, 02:59 AM
I declare this thread a draqon troll fest.
Maybe it was an Afghani who wanted to return some of the favors from the last seven years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada's_role_in_the_invasion_of_Afghanistan
Its amazing how much hoopla there is over one death in Canada, when the killing of thousands is ignored by them.
Perhaps if they too were faced by horrific images of death in their neighborhood on a daily basis, they would recognise what it does to the people living there.
He was clearly psychotic.
Stryder
08-01-08, 08:43 AM
He was clearly psychotic.
Actually if you think about it, the guy had probably decided he was going to kill someone before the bus journey, he'd probably decided that he wanted to do it in an enclosed space with witnesses to feed off the panic. The reason he took so long to gut someone would be because he was taking his time to pick his victim.
This is proven further with the Psychosis of standing with the head of the victim infront of those that approached him and of course going back to cut the body up further. The thing is though it also proves that he was a coward, since he picked on someone that was "sleeping".
In total this cowardly act is just to generate the hysteria and public correspondence that people have been giving it, really we should be ignoring the story and burying it under other more interesting topic stories, so as not to give that idiot what he wants.
He will still psychotic, no matter what his plans where.
But i agree with you. The conditions it was done in, indicates that it was a predetermined attack. But... its what he did afterwards which defies all common sense of such an attack. It's almost as if he was catatonic, and unaware of what he was ultimately doing.
Like, he was in some kind of semantic rigor.
Dr Lou Natic
08-01-08, 09:19 AM
SAM if you keep comparing the deaths of westerners with the deaths of arabs I WILL report you.
Stryder
08-01-08, 10:25 AM
Like, he was in some kind of semantic rigor.
Like I said, It's just about playing to a crowd. For instance he'll be locked away for the rest of his life, unable to interact with the world and gloat about what he did. However the victim's next of kin and the Witnesses on that bus will not be able to let go, he made sure of that.
These sorts of guy need the physical kind of lobotomy.
Mr.Spock
08-01-08, 10:48 AM
i hope theyll lock him up and throw away the key.
Like I said, It's just about playing to a crowd. For instance he'll be locked away for the rest of his life, unable to interact with the world and gloat about what he did. However the victim's next of kin and the Witnesses on that bus will not be able to let go, he made sure of that.
These sorts of guy need the physical kind of lobotomy.
Well, psychology will determine his fate. His state of mind means everything in a court trial. I wonder what will come of it?
Mr.Spock
08-01-08, 10:55 AM
Well, psychology will determine his fate. His state of mind means everything in a court trial. I wonder what will come of it?
all this psychological huplla only helps psychotic people get out to society sooner. there are mental cases, but how many of them arent fabricated?
Proper and vigorous reports should detail a correct sketch of the attacker. Only stupidity allows those sorts of outcomes happen.
Mr.Spock
08-01-08, 11:01 AM
Proper and vigorous reports should detail a correct sketch of the attacker. Only stupidity allows those sorts of outcomes happen.
determent people can easily fake them. and dont forget, all you need is a good lawyer to tell the judge how your father abused you as a child, your mother raped you etc. etc.
But usually there is evidence that can only sort such a case. Anyone can fudge the truth. This is known, so there are people hired to know these things specifically.
Mr.Spock
08-01-08, 11:05 AM
But usually there is evidence that can only sort such a case. Anyone can fudge the truth. This is known, so there are people hired to know these things specifically.
so? they cant be fooled?
Well, in some cases, it can be. But that is individuals in a strong place to even fudge such a truth. The statistics are lower than what you might think.
Mr.Spock
08-01-08, 11:09 AM
Well, in some cases, it can be. But that is individuals in a strong place to even fudge such a truth. The statistics are lower than what you might think.
you are aware that statistics in this matter worth squat? they can only tell you the people who were caught.
Believe it or not, but it is very hard to fake certain psychological disfunctions.
Mr.Spock
08-01-08, 11:26 AM
Believe it or not, but it is very hard to fake certain psychological disfunctions.
certain? then choose the ones that arent. remember Sarah Connor? she wasnt crazy.
spidergoat
08-01-08, 11:36 AM
You would think a carny would have better judgement.
madanthonywayne
08-01-08, 12:00 PM
Here's the victim:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44884000/jpg/_44884081_timmclean226.jpg
Tim McLean of Winnipeg, Manitoba.
The psycho was Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton. So far, I can't find a picture of him.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7537675.stm
certain? then choose the ones that arent. remember Sarah Connor? she wasnt crazy.
Such as schizophrenia. Whilst it alone is not a good enough reason for such a killing, is one condition that is universally-known, and is not so easy to fake.
The psycho was Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton. So far, I can't find a picture of him.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7537675.stm
Probably a Chinese Muslim.
fadingCaptain
08-01-08, 02:00 PM
That sucks.
Stryder
08-01-08, 02:14 PM
Such as schizophrenia. Whilst it alone is not a good enough reason for such a killing, is one condition that is universally-known, and is not so easy to fake.
I still say it looks pre-meditated, the killer was planning on killing someone, anyone and doing it in a violent manner. You should not that Schizophrenia is a "Generalised term" for a number of psychological ailments, Terming this idiot murder one, is lumbering all those people that have been called Schizophrenic with the niggling worry that everyone might think them a Mass Murderer, obviously it doesn't settle well to them (Not usually enough to make them kill someone but obviously enough to cause un-necessary worry.) So I would tend to refer from using such generalised names.
By all means call him a Nutjob or idiot, after all these aren't labels that medical practices give but are more mundane and understood throughout most cultures. (Obviously things like Murder, Killer and you can say Psychopath)
Another point though, I wouldn't be surprised if this starts bringing up questions in regards to the liberty of immigration to Canada (Since obvious racial ties will be made).
Mr.Spock
08-01-08, 06:31 PM
Probably a Chinese Muslim.
a relative of yours? or a former boyfriend even? :)
Orleander
08-02-08, 09:38 AM
If he is mentally ill, and they put him on meds, I can't imagine what he will go through when he realizes what he has done.
How can you help it when your brain turns against you?
cosmictraveler
08-02-08, 09:41 AM
How can you help it when your brain turns against you?
Suicide helps more than killing others.
Orleander
08-02-08, 09:42 AM
But does he know it was another person?
cosmictraveler
08-02-08, 09:44 AM
But does he know it was another person?
He must for he felt no compassion or pain.
Orleander
08-02-08, 09:49 AM
He must for he felt no compassion or pain.
?? I don't understand. Maybe he was having hallucinations and saw a monster. Maybe the sleeping guys head rolled onto his shoulder and he thought he was being attacked. Maybe....
He's mentally ill. What do you do when the thing that controls everything in your body hijacks you?
cosmictraveler
08-02-08, 09:52 AM
I'd put a stop to it by seeing a professional or comitting suicide. I wouldn't ever take another persons life just because mine was out of control.
If he is mentally ill, and they put him on meds, I can't imagine what he will go through when he realizes what he has done.
How can you help it when your brain turns against you?
You reminded me of a patient with Wilson's disease (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson's_disease) I saw during my internship. He used to have periods of lucidity in between and once told me they were worse, because at least at other times, he did not know what a sorry state he was in.
Anti-Flag
08-02-08, 12:22 PM
Probably a Chinese Muslim.
So he really wants to grow a beard but can't?
No wonder he's pissed.
jessiej920
08-03-08, 04:56 PM
I'd put a stop to it by seeing a professional or comitting suicide. I wouldn't ever take another persons life just because mine was out of control.
I think the point is, is that if you are in that state you don't KNOW you should be killing yourself and not another person, so to speak. Sometimes people are mentally ill and they do not know it, so they can't get help or stop themselves. Sometimes people just go off the deep end. I knew a kid who was "normal" one day and then he just had a psychotic break; they found him wandering around half-naked in the middle of the night, breaking into peoples cars and trying to steal them. This was not only completely out of character, but made absoloutly no sense, seeing as he wasn't worried at all about getting caught. He had no idea what he was doing, who he was, or where he was. Later he was diagnosed with Schizophrenia.
But besides all that, it doesn't excuse or eliminate the effects of bad behavior or the behavior of this man Li, who chopped up some innocent kid. Until it is proven, beyond reasonable doubt, that this man could literally not stop himself from behaving in such a horrible way because of, say, a psychotic break or a mental illness, I think we can assume that it was a premeditated decision (seeing as he had a hunting knife capable of cutting someone'd head off with him), which shows not only the mental capability to plot such a hideous crime, but also consider the ramifications of his actions (right vs. wrong), making him completely responsible for the murder.
I also read yesterday that this man, Li, not only gutted and decapitated this poor kid, but that he also ate some of the body parts, like the skin and such. This is truly a horrible event and my deepest sympathy is with the victims family.
I still say it looks pre-meditated, the killer was planning on killing someone, anyone and doing it in a violent manner. You should not that Schizophrenia is a "Generalised term" for a number of psychological ailments, Terming this idiot murder one, is lumbering all those people that have been called Schizophrenic with the niggling worry that everyone might think them a Mass Murderer, obviously it doesn't settle well to them (Not usually enough to make them kill someone but obviously enough to cause un-necessary worry.) So I would tend to refer from using such generalised names.
By all means call him a Nutjob or idiot, after all these aren't labels that medical practices give but are more mundane and understood throughout most cultures. (Obviously things like Murder, Killer and you can say Psychopath)
Another point though, I wouldn't be surprised if this starts bringing up questions in regards to the liberty of immigration to Canada (Since obvious racial ties will be made).
I've thought about it some more, and i take back what i said. I don't actually believe it wasn't premeditated. It's more likely it was, but it will be interesting if we can follow what the end of the trials give.
Michael
08-05-08, 09:11 PM
Please Kill Me (http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/05/canada.bus.stabbing.ap/index.html?eref=rss_world)
The church pastor, Tom Castor, who helped hire Li soon after he immigrated in 2004 with his wife, Anna, said the man never showed any sign of anger or emotional problems when he worked there as a custodian. Maybe he awoke on the bus.
Maybe Li was taking a new sleeping medication from Merch, in his dream he was a Xian knight battling the forces of evil just as his pastor told him to - he was on a quest to save the world. As a lone knight he hunted his food and traveled on a large winged yellow bird.
I now wonder if he was taking some of these new medications? And just what type of church he worked for? Maybe attending a church and hearing sermons about supernatural bullshit combined with either having a mental disease or taking some new fangled drug is a recipe for disaster?
Maybe not, but this is very very unusual. Everyone says the guy was a good guy and suddenly he's eating people? Usually only drugs cause people to act THAT crazy.
When I was in the USA I was shocked at all the drug Ads on TV. You know, the ones that end with: Please see your medical specialist, side affects may include bleeding from the eyes and anus, intestinal itching and the compulsion to kill and eat someone sitting next to you. Take with care.
one_raven
08-05-08, 09:24 PM
Some people will do anything to get ahead.
HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
one_raven
08-05-08, 09:26 PM
?? I don't understand. Maybe he was having hallucinations and saw a monster. Maybe the sleeping guys head rolled onto his shoulder and he thought he was being attacked. Maybe....
He's mentally ill. What do you do when the thing that controls everything in your body hijacks you?
Or maybe he just wanted to kill someone in a brutal way.
Well, it's not quite a proper lede, but ...
Gruesome Greyhound bus tragedy given dubious honor of being exploited by Fred Phelps and PETA on the same day (http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/gruesome_greyhound_bus_beheading_given_d)
Via Slog.
Or maybe he just wanted to kill someone in a brutal way.
Then carve the head off and eat his flesh.
[Quot] Orly:Maybe....
He be mentally ill.]
:eek:
WHAT, WHAT? that is quite the understatement.
dixonmassey
08-09-08, 06:57 PM
Dozen(s?) of burly Canadian men run away from a little Chinese man with a knife. Makes you wonder what will happen after invasion johnboats will arrive.
Orleander
08-09-08, 08:08 PM
[Quot] Orly:Maybe....
He be mentally ill.]
:eek:
WHAT, WHAT? that is quite the understatement.
and therefore its not his fault. How can you help it when your brain hijacks you??
spidergoat
08-09-08, 09:11 PM
Dozen(s?) of burly Canadian men run away from a little Chinese man with a knife. Makes you wonder what will happen after invasion johnboats will arrive.
Little asian men can be very dangerous. My friends who's a martial arts instructor told me that. It's the fat ones you don't have to worry about so much.
shorty_37
08-09-08, 11:19 PM
and therefore its not his fault. How can you help it when your brain hijacks you??
This is a statement that the kids parents would probably strangle you for.
It's easy to say when it doesn't involve you or your family. If I was the boys parents I would want to see him decapitated.
Orleander
08-10-08, 09:11 AM
Little asian men can be very dangerous. My friends who's a martial arts instructor told me that. It's the fat ones you don't have to worry about so much.
especially a crazy beheading gutting flesh eating one.
Orleander
09-05-08, 07:41 PM
Does anyone know what became of this guy?
nietzschefan
09-05-08, 09:14 PM
Dozen(s?) of burly Canadian men run away from a little Chinese man with a knife. Makes you wonder what will happen after invasion johnboats will arrive.
There is a class action lawsuit underway regarding the authorities hanging back and allowing the body to be defaced...
Pretty rare in Canada...the class action lawsuit I mean.
chuuush
09-06-08, 03:27 AM
I think its time all immigrants should get special id cards and mental exam should be necessory. I have a feeling he was of a certain religion i, at least that is what all the blogers are talking about.. maybe it a was an honor killing... come on guys in usa its always some one from middle east who does things like that... atleast thats what they say in the media..so maybe some one from canada can confirm it or give more input?
It would be good if someone here apologized from over a billion people who are of a certain religion i, don't you think so??
Well, it's not quite a proper lede, but ...
Gruesome Greyhound bus tragedy given dubious honor of being exploited by Fred Phelps and PETA on the same day (http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/gruesome_greyhound_bus_beheading_given_d)
Via Slog.
Fred is a disgrace, an opportunist and a whore-$$$. You and he are on the same side of so many issues though. Is he your dad?
There is a class action lawsuit underway regarding the authorities hanging back and allowing the body to be defaced...
Pretty rare in Canada...the class action lawsuit I mean.
Another disgrace, as far as i can tell anyway.
And what about those people running off the bus?
I know people cannot be armed in Canada but this is ridiculous.
Orleander
09-06-08, 08:23 AM
so has the guy been charged yet or is he unfit for trial?
nietzschefan
09-06-08, 10:44 AM
They are still "evaluating him". It doesn't matter, it's only 2nd degree murder. Most don't do more than 10 years for that in Canada. Sometimes less.
Probably take longer than that to try and figure out what is going on in his head.
chuuush
09-08-08, 09:00 AM
I'm still waiting for that apology!
chuuush
09-12-08, 01:02 AM
I'm still waiting for that apology!
Still waiting!
Dr Lou Natic
09-12-08, 01:51 AM
chuuush, I think I've asked you this before, but is your name a reference to the hilarious way the jock says "shoosh" in the movie Encino Man?
maxpayne
09-17-08, 04:23 AM
The only thing will make us in peace that we should fire all Muslims out of our lands and stop all Muslims immigrations no peace with them at all and its our only way out of this horrible mess like that and like what happened and what will happen which i am sure its near than any of you can think basing on the way they deal and think with trust me its something over we can imagine or bear and we can't stay negative as we are now we must do something and urgent one
maxpayne
09-17-08, 04:30 AM
The only thing will make us in peace that we should fire all Muslims out of our lands and stop all Muslims immigrations no peace with them at all and its our only way out of this horrible mess like that and like what happened and what will happen which i am sure its near than any of you can think basing on the way they deal and think with trust me its something over we can imagine or bear and we can't stay negative as we are now we must do something and urgent one
Orleander
09-17-08, 04:39 AM
wow! That was one whole sentence.
I think I'd have to agree with Orleander on this one... what can you do when the brain hijacks you?
Ok not rally to compare with but about a year ago I was in Scotland sightseeing and stuff and I went up this tower not very tall but falling off it would result in death... It was a pretty cloudy and grey day not that it matters that much but when I started going up the stairs halfway up it just felt like the entire tower was swaying like it was so windy it actually got the building to move... my friend thought I was nuts but later realised it was vertigo the werid thing was that until i was on the top there were no windows so I couldnt really see how far up I was...
Another thing, my brother has Aspergers, an autistic "disease" that makes him unable to cope with certain social events and sometimes ppl in general, I mean you can tell him stuff seriously a 100 times and he still wouldn't get it... or like he sometimes wont realise you need urgently his help that would only require a minimal of his efforts...
so to conclude, the brain can turn on you bad and bad in many degrees.... what we saw here was in the gravest of results on your brain going haywire..
i should also probably mention it was the first time i had vertigo and it was pretty damn scary
Lets not be so quick to assume 'brain hijacking'.
nietzschefan
09-17-08, 03:42 PM
I think we can use an olde school term like FUCKING CRAZY, to describe his actions.
What, we can't use a term like fucking crazy motha fucker, anymore?
Either way, he needs a lot of "help", alone time, whatever. He is going to be labelled a "Dangerous offender" under Canada's criminal code and will need to jump through a shitload of hoops to ever be released to his own care ever again.
I was having some conversation on this when it came out. Tell me, Americans, did he have a mental condition?
Has his trial been yet? In scotland, we have a couple of months for an appearance at court.
nietzschefan
09-17-08, 04:12 PM
He's Canadian, it happened near Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.
I didn't say it wasn't "fucking crazy" to act like he did... just that we all act on impulses from our brain that we cannot always control... i mean i think we all have (most definately not to this degree) but done things you realise afterwards why did i do that? or how could i think something like that?
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