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OilIsMastery
06-27-08, 03:55 PM
The Trans-Atlantic slave trade was dominated by Jews.
Discuss.
P.S. Heil Hitler.
I suppose agreeing to Kadark, would be just what you wanted...to pin-point and mark your enemies.
No it wasn't. Often, African tribes would sell captured members of rival tribes to the Europeans as slaves. The European traders were French at first, but when the British defeated them in the Seven Years War (I think that's the right war), the trade was handed over to the British. Jews would never have been allowed to dominate such a lucrative business in either country in the 1700s, especially in France (maybe in England). Just another of Kadarks's stupid anti-semitic conspiracy theories. He has a lot of those, you know. :crazy:
Ganymede
06-27-08, 07:11 PM
Rabbi Marc Lee Raphael
Rabbi Marc Lee Raphael is the Nathan and Sophia Gumenick Professor of Judaic Studies, Professor of Religion, and Chair, Department of Religion, The College of William and Mary, and a Visiting Fellow of Wolfson College, Oxford University.
The following passages are from Dr. Raphael's book Jews and Judaism in the United States a Documentary History (New York: Behrman House, Inc., Pub, 1983), pp. 14, 23-25.
"Jews also took an active part in the Dutch colonial slave trade; indeed, the bylaws of the Recife and Mauricia congregations (1648) included an imposta (Jewish tax) of five soldos for each Negro slave a Brazilian Jew purchased from the West Indies Company. Slave auctions were postponed if they fell on a Jewish holiday. In Curacao in the seventeenth century, as well as in the British colonies of Barbados and Jamaica in the eighteenth century, Jewish merchants played a major role in the slave trade. In fact, in all the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently dominated.
"This was no less true on the North American mainland, where during the eighteenth century Jews participated in the 'triangular trade' that brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies and there exchanged them for molasses, which in turn was taken to New England and converted into rum for sale in Africa. Isaac Da Costa of Charleston in the 1750's, David Franks of Philadelphia in the 1760's, and Aaron Lopez of Newport in the late 1760's and early 1770's dominated Jewish slave trading on the American continent."
spidergoat
06-27-08, 08:02 PM
It's traditionally European to give the Jews the jobs that made the Europeans feel guilty for mostly religious reasons. Jews were forbidden from most crafts since the middle ages. They were allowed to lend money (Christianity forbid usury) and dig graves. One further benefit is you can periodically oppress the Jews and take their assets...
OilIsMastery
06-27-08, 10:50 PM
Congo. The other Israel.
There must've been a lot of Jews in the interior of the Congo capturing all those slaves back in the 1600s.
Heil Hitler.
mathman
06-28-08, 04:13 PM
Congo. The other Israel.
There must've been a lot of Jews in the interior of the Congo capturing all those slaves back in the 1600s.
Heil Hitler.
Slaves were captured in the interior as a result of intertribal warfare or raids. They were then brought to the coast and sold to to the (European) slavers.
Sock puppet path
06-28-08, 06:46 PM
Dude, he's muslim are you really surprised?
Congo. The other Israel.
There must've been a lot of Jews in the interior of the Congo capturing all those slaves back in the 1600s.
Heil Hitler.
Just like there are all kinds of Jews enslaving people into financial debt these days.
You ever wonder maybe the loan officer at the local bank might not be a Jew but whoever runs the bank might be making money off of whatever loans they sell you?
Cellar_Door
07-07-08, 12:18 PM
Far from all Jews are rich, but an awfully high percentage of rich, powerful and influential people are Jewish.
Take the world's media, for example:
http://www.mediachannel.org/images/media-moguls-1200X849.jpg
Six Jewish-run companies own 96% of it. What's the world Jewish population again? Less than one percent? Ha, that's fair representation for you.
I mean, you think after all the long hard years of persecution and having their assets stripped they would have run out of money by now.
Hitler is dead. So no point in hailing him.
Hail OilIsMastery.
Hitler is dead. So no point in hailing him.
Hail OilIsMastery.
As a medium who is internationally celebrated for his ability to communicate with those who have gone beyond. I can assure you I can pass messages to Hitler. I charge $10 US a word, so keep it short. Dutch and German words are charged by the syllable, so "tentonstelling", putting up a tent at an exibition, will cost $30 US.
As a medium who is internationally celebrated for his ability to communicate with those who have gone beyond. I can assure you I can pass messages to Hitler. I charge $10 US a word, so keep it short. Dutch and German words are charged by the syllable, so "tentonstelling", putting up a tent at an exibition, will cost $30 US.
You seem to have taken up some jobs on the side my Lord :D
I have nothing to say to Hitler though, try your luck with Oil over here.. lol
Take the world's media, for example:
http://www.mediachannel.org/images/media-moguls-1200X849.jpg
Six Jewish-run companies own 96% of it.
Your link says that company number 3 (Bertelsmann) printed Nazi propaganda in WWII. What makes you believe these companies are "Jewish"?
Cellar_Door
07-11-08, 11:11 AM
Your link says that company number 3 (Bertelsmann) printed Nazi propaganda in WWII. What makes you believe these companies are "Jewish"?
That proves nothing - you had to do what you had to do. Besides, that was 60 years ago. Bertelsmann is mostly owned by the Mohn family, who were also its founders. Reinhard Mohn is Jewish. I merely put forward that they were Jewish-owned - Bertelsmann does not disprove that.
That proves nothing - you had to do what you had to do.
Jewish owned businesses in Germany were seized by the Nazi government (http://www.crt-ii.org/_nazi_laws/). Those business owners who could, fled.
Reinhard Mohn is Jewish.
[citation needed]
I merely put forward that they were Jewish-owned
[citation needed]
Cellar_Door
07-14-08, 01:08 PM
[citation needed]
If you would like to research the ownership of every one of the companies mentioned in the source I provided - go ahead - I have no fears that my point will be disproved. That is your prerogative and I am not prepared to waste my time and energy collecting links for you, to prove what I have already learned to be true. If I put forward that the county town of Shropshire was Shrewsbury, would you shout 'cite' in place of a valid argument?
CptBork
07-14-08, 01:12 PM
Funny a muslim would be pointing the finger at jews for participating in the slave trade. The Quran legitimizes slavery, and African slaves have been captured and utilized throughout the muslim world for centuries. The atrocities in Sudan are just one example of how muslims continue to enslave black people even today, never mind 400 years ago. Ah but let me guess, Kadark is going to tell us that these slaves were really being liberated- all smiles and candy of course, unless whitey does it.
I think the difference is that among the Jews and whites, slavery was based on ethnic supremacism and colour. Did Jews ever enslave Jews? Did whites ever enslave whites? Africans enslaved other Africans for money, tribal loyalties or power. The Ottomans and Mongols considered slavery as the way that prisoners of war could pay for their freedom or in lieu of imprisonment or as an occupation for immigrants from poorer places. They used them for labour but they could become courtiers and leaders and freemen.
spidergoat
07-14-08, 01:32 PM
Just like there are all kinds of Jews enslaving people into financial debt these days.
You ever wonder maybe the loan officer at the local bank might not be a Jew but whoever runs the bank might be making money off of whatever loans they sell you?
That's a vital function of society. If you don't want a loan, don't get one.
It has also been a tool for exploitation of the masses, first by landowners and now by developed countries.
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt.asp
River Ape
07-14-08, 01:43 PM
Reinhard Mohn is Jewish.
This claim is absolute bollocks!
What the devil made you make this absurd claim?
Know of anyone else holding the rank of Leutnant in the Luftwaffe who was Jewish?
Back up your claim or admit your error!
spidergoat
07-14-08, 01:53 PM
It has also been a tool for exploitation of the masses, first by landowners and now by developed countries.
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt.asp
It can be, when it's excessive, but modern society would not exist if people didn't lend money with interest. It was so important in the Middle Ages that they did it anyway, even though the bible forbid usury. To assuage their guilt, they let Jews do it. This was convenient, since they could also seize their assets from time to time.
It can be, when it's excessive, but modern society would not exist if people didn't lend money with interest..
That is some claim.
CptBork
07-14-08, 03:15 PM
Hey, many historians argue that Christopher Columbus was of sephardic jewish descent. He also had contacts with many members of the jewish community and apparently left much of his property to jewish heirs when he died. I guess we should blame the discovery and colonization of the Americas on the jews too, even though Columbus was known as a devout Catholic.
spidergoat
07-14-08, 03:51 PM
That is some claim.
Where would you get capital for investments? ...For starting a business? What would be the motivation to lend money if not for interest? Capitalism depends on this.
mathman
07-14-08, 03:54 PM
"Did whites ever enslave whites? "
Yes - many times - examples ancient Greece and Rome. During early middle ages, Slavs were used as slaves in western Europe.
This claim is absolute bollocks!
What the devil made you make this absurd claim?
Know of anyone else holding the rank of Leutnant in the Luftwaffe who was Jewish?
Back up your claim or admit your error!
Hmm Emil Maurice was an Oberster SA-Führer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice
"Did whites ever enslave whites? "
Yes - many times - examples ancient Greece and Rome. During early middle ages, Slavs were used as slaves in western Europe.
Didn't they refer to them as barbarians? And make sport of them?
Didn't they refer to them as barbarians? And make sport of them?
certain Hitler quotes in the book -- such as "Russians are beasts," "Slavs are a mass of inborn slaves" -- had caused offence.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL0864026220080708
I think the difference is that among the Jews and whites, slavery was based on ethnic supremacism and colour. Did Jews ever enslave Jews? Did whites ever enslave whites? Africans enslaved other Africans for money, tribal loyalties or power.
How is tribal supremacism different from racial supremacism?
The Ottomans and Mongols considered slavery as the way that prisoners of war could pay for their freedom or in lieu of imprisonment or as an occupation for immigrants from poorer places. They used them for labour but they could become courtiers and leaders and freemen.
How many of these slaves actually became courtiers? Theory and practice do not often coincide.
What about the Arab slave owners?
That is your prerogative and I am not prepared to waste my time and energy collecting links for you
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You've failed to provide any.
lepustimidus
07-15-08, 04:09 AM
S.A.M:
Did whites ever enslave whites?
Hahah, what?
Do you know where the term 'slave' originated from, SpAM?
'Slave' originated from the word 'Slav', when pagan Slavs were enslaved by Christian Europe until about 1000 AD. This practice ceased when most of the Slavs were converted to Christianity, because Christians aren't allowed to enslave other Christians. From memory, the same sort of rule applied to the Arab and Ottoman Muslims (Muslims can't enslave other Muslims, which was why a significant proportion of slaves the Ottoman's obtained were from the white Southern Slavic countries, which were either Orthodox or Catholic)
You're also forgetting that whites had feudalism, which was far worse than slavery. I know that in Russia, serf owners could do whatever they wished with their serfs, whereas there were restrictions on how Arab, Turkish, black and 'white' slave owners could treat their slaves. I remember one particular example where serfs were used by their lords to act in plays. If the female serf hesitated to strip naked on stage, they were killed, just like that. No fuss, no muss.
So yeah, I'd advise you don't talk shit about stuff you are ignorant of.
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