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Syzygys
06-19-08, 10:56 AM
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/06/the-vatican-has.html

"The Vatican has banned the makers of a CERN-inspired quantum physics-based prequel to The Da Vinci Code from filming in its grounds or any church in Rome, describing the work as “an offence against God”.

Angels and Demons, the latest Dan Brown thriller to be turned into a film, includes key episodes that take place in the Vatican and Rome’s churches. Archbishop Velasio De Paolis, the head of the Vatican’s Prefecture for Economic Affairs, said that Brown had “turned the gospels upside down to poison the faith”.

I am not surprized and they have the right to do so...

Best part:

"Father Marco Fibbi, a spokesman for the Diocese of Rome, said: “Normally we read the script but this time it was not necessary. The name Dan Brown was enough.”

Syzygys
06-19-08, 11:09 AM
http://pubphilosopher.blogs.com/pub_philosopher/images/jesus_and_mo_3.jpg

spidergoat
06-19-08, 05:47 PM
I banned the from Pope from my house, so we're even.

Orleander
06-19-08, 06:48 PM
were they banned from the country or just the building?

Carcano
06-19-08, 07:37 PM
"Father Marco Fibbi, a spokesman for the Diocese of Rome, said: “Normally we read the script but this time it was not necessary. The name Dan Brown was enough.”
Not surprising...considering Brown's fast and loose handling of early church history.

The guy is chronically dishonest...but hey, so is the Vatican!

Syzygys
06-19-08, 08:01 PM
I thought Dan's story made more sense than the Vatican's...

PsychoticEpisode
06-19-08, 09:08 PM
The Vatican must be getting a share of the receipts if they're promoting the movie. Any negative stance is sure to make the movie more desirable to potential viewers. Maybe the Popemobile is out of gas.

Asguard
06-19-08, 09:11 PM
HAHAHAH

Angles and demons makes the church the victom
What idiocy

JDawg
06-20-08, 10:03 AM
And yet we still pay attention to a heap of crap like The Vatican. Unreal.

Can we ban The Vatican for celebrating Hitler's birthday every year while he tried to kill every Jew in Europe? I mean, if we're going to be fair about it...

Medicine*Woman
06-20-08, 02:20 PM
Not surprising...considering Brown's fast and loose handling of early church history.

The guy is chronically dishonest...but hey, so is the Vatican!
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M*W: He's a fiction writer. I don't plan to ever read of his publications, and I'm an atheist. I probably would agree with him on many aspects of early church history--or not--because I haven't ever nor will ever read pulp fiction.

Asguard
06-20-08, 05:52 PM
MW you actually should read them, i found them really facinating especially when i went back to the non fiction books behind the de vince code. As for angels and deamons it was a good fiction book, great story but without the huge amount of back story that the second one has

Leo Volont
07-06-08, 04:14 AM
The Vatican is both a Country and a Building.

You see, the Catholic Church did once have an actual Country -- the Papal States, a political jurisdiction that was admininistered by the Papal Bureaurcracy, and the tax revenues supported the Church. The people of Italy had a revolution and all of this property was confiscated from the Pope. The Pope was given the Vatican, but in real terms it has been a form of House Arrest. The Pope gets to pretend that a small city block is equivalent to the Country that was stolen from him.

Actually, the Pope should stop pretending. Rome betrayed him, and the Vatican is not Rome.

The Capital of the Church should move to Mexico City. The Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe is the heart center of the Catholic Church. Let the Fires of Hell consume that stinking pit of infernal puss Italy.



were they banned from the country or just the building?

Myles
07-06-08, 06:58 AM
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/06/the-vatican-has.html

"The Vatican has banned the makers of a CERN-inspired quantum physics-based prequel to The Da Vinci Code from filming in its grounds or any church in Rome, describing the work as “an offence against God”.

Angels and Demons, the latest Dan Brown thriller to be turned into a film, includes key episodes that take place in the Vatican and Rome’s churches. Archbishop Velasio De Paolis, the head of the Vatican’s Prefecture for Economic Affairs, said that Brown had “turned the gospels upside down to poison the faith”.

I am not surprized and they have the right to do so...

Best part:

"Father Marco Fibbi, a spokesman for the Diocese of Rome, said: “Normally we read the script but this time it was not necessary. The name Dan Brown was enough.”

I agree with Father Fibber. Who the hell is Dan Brown ? I wouldn't be caught dead reading his stuiff.

Myles
07-06-08, 07:03 AM
The Vatican must be getting a share of the receipts if they're promoting the movie. Any negative stance is sure to make the movie more desirable to potential viewers. Maybe the Popemobile is out of gas.

You have a good point. I remember reading about a strip show in the North of England whose premises had signs sayin " Banned by the Purity League" pasted all over the place. It was subsequently found that the show's management had produced the posters.

Myles
07-06-08, 07:05 AM
The Vatican is both a Country and a Building.

You see, the Catholic Church did once have an actual Country -- the Papal States, a political jurisdiction that was admininistered by the Papal Bureaurcracy, and the tax revenues supported the Church. The people of Italy had a revolution and all of this property was confiscated from the Pope. The Pope was given the Vatican, but in real terms it has been a form of House Arrest. The Pope gets to pretend that a small city block is equivalent to the Country that was stolen from him.

Actually, the Pope should stop pretending. Rome betrayed him, and the Vatican is not Rome.

The Capital of the Church should move to Mexico City. The Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe is the heart center of the Catholic Church. Let the Fires of Hell consume that stinking pit of infernal puss Italy.

If only all Christians had your loving attitude...

JDawg
07-07-08, 09:16 PM
If only all Christians had your loving attitude...

He makes up for it by being twice as misinformed as most Christians.

Syzygys
07-07-08, 09:43 PM
man, the ignorance in this thread....

The Vatican is both a Country and a Building.

It is actually NEITHER... It is more than 1 bulding and it is not a country...

Thanks for playing...

I agree with Father Fibber. Who the hell is Dan Brown ? I wouldn't be caught dead reading his stuiff.

So if you don't know who he is, how the fuck do you know if he is good or bad???

Again, the ignorance can be cut...

JDawg
07-07-08, 09:49 PM
Actually, I think Dan Brown sucks, too. :D I read "DaVinci" and it was PUUUUUKE.

Syzygys
07-07-08, 10:14 PM
At least you read it. I liked both the book and the movie and I bet he is more accurate than the Vatican.... :)

JDawg
07-07-08, 10:31 PM
At least you read it. I liked both the book and the movie and I bet he is more accurate than the Vatican.... :)

Well, I didn't see the movie, and I have no idea how credible his story is...however, the book was garbage. The story was weak, the characters were paper-thin, and the ending was...yuck. Just an unsatisfying novel all-around.

He reminds of Mario Puzo. Puzo's books were the basis for the Godfather movies...but if you ever read them, you'd puke. Literally. Puzo was a HORRIBLE writer. Literally and completely untalented. Granted, Brown is much better than him, but being much better than Puzo isn't saying much.

Syzygys
07-07-08, 11:09 PM
I actually read The Sicilian by Puzo and I liked it...Also if the story is good, interesting and well-paced, character depth isn't required.

You don't know how credible Brown's story? let's just say it makes more sense and more believable than the vatican's line...

JDawg
07-07-08, 11:21 PM
I actually read The Sicilian by Puzo and I liked it...Also if the story is good, interesting and well-paced, character depth isn't required.

I didn't read the Sicilian, actually. The last one I read was Omerta, and...well, I just had to give it up. And the pacing wasn't exactly the problem...if anything, it was too fast. He doesn't do anything to set a scene. Everything he writes is in summary mode. I want more than that from the stuff I invest time in.

You don't know how credible Brown's story? let's just say it makes more sense and more believable than the vatican's line...

Yeah, I'm not real up on that whole thing, so I can't really make any judgments on it.

Asguard
07-07-08, 11:36 PM
as i have said before the back story for the devinci code wasnt his (infact he got sued for taking someone elses work), the REAL stuff was done by alot of other people and then the de vinci code was just a fiction novel set using there work to make a scean. The back story is mostly plausable, especially the stuff about the devine feminin

Angels and deamons on the other hand doesnt have that detailed back story

JDawg
07-07-08, 11:43 PM
as i have said before the back story for the devinci code wasnt his (infact he got sued for taking someone elses work), the REAL stuff was done by alot of other people and then the de vinci code was just a fiction novel set using there work to make a scean. The back story is mostly plausable, especially the stuff about the devine feminin

Angels and deamons on the other hand doesnt have that detailed back story

Hey now, don't say that "he was sued" and leave it at that. The case was either thrown out, or he won, I don't remember now. But you'll always have some nutjob claiming your work was theirs. It happens all the time, and doesn't mean that Brown stole anything. Anybody can sue, it doesn't make the person automatically guilty.

Syzygys
07-07-08, 11:47 PM
The last one I read was Omerta, and...well, I just had to give it up.

You must be a mazochist. Why do you keep reading an author if you don't like his books?

Angels and demons was also good but the ending in the book is impausible. The guy is falling down from the sky and survives. I wonder how they gonna do it in the movie...

Asguard
07-07-08, 11:53 PM
um i dont rember compleatly, i think they setled out of court. At least the women whos book he used apeared in the film "behind the devinc code" so im assuming they worked it out

JDawg
07-08-08, 12:22 AM
You must be a mazochist. Why do you keep reading an author if you don't like his books?

Because I had thought that maybe it was a bad outing on his part. I'm a huge Stephen King fan, but I admit that sometimes you have to hold your nose through some of his novels. Eventually, though, he repays you by dropping a classic in your hands. I hoped the same would be true for Puzo, but about 6 so-called "chapters" into Omerta, I gave up.

Angels and demons was also good but the ending in the book is impausible. The guy is falling down from the sky and survives. I wonder how they gonna do it in the movie...

Well, I guess I don't have a reason to read it now! :eek:

JDawg
07-08-08, 12:24 AM
um i dont rember compleatly, i think they setled out of court. At least the women whos book he used apeared in the film "behind the devinc code" so im assuming they worked it out

If they talked about the case in any manner whatsoever, as in what was stolen and what wasn't, then the case was thrown out. In out of court settlements, the person shelling out the bucks ALWAYS makes the person sign some sort of hush agreement stating that they can't talk about it at all for a certain amount of time.

Asguard
07-08-08, 12:28 AM
umm they still have the right to use there OWN material

JDawg
07-08-08, 12:33 AM
umm they still have the right to use there OWN material

That's why I asked what was said, partner. I never saw the thing, so I don't know.

Asguard
07-08-08, 12:48 AM
they IMPLIED that this is the stuff that was plaugirised but i dont think they ever came out and said it:p

synthesizer-patel
07-08-08, 03:22 AM
http://pubphilosopher.blogs.com/pub_philosopher/images/jesus_and_mo_3.jpg

posting cartoons of the great prophet? - the fatwa is in the post matey :)

Syzygys
07-08-08, 07:05 AM
Then quickly change the missquote, because I didn't post it!

(Q)
07-08-08, 11:23 AM
Best part:

"Father Marco Fibbi, a spokesman for the Diocese of Rome, said: “Normally we read the script but this time it was not necessary. The name Dan Brown was enough.”

The "Vatican" are not biased or ignorant, they only appear that way, maybe it's the name.