GTA IV Pedestrian Final Solution

[Mr.Spock]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/218662.html

what do you think about this video? anyone in sci forum have a confession they want to make? :shrug:

[Syzygys]

So we need a gamers forum too....

[Mr.Spock]

So we need a gamers forum too....

did you watch the video?

[invert_nexus]

What about it? Looked like a normal Grand Theft Auto game to me. Although I did notice a distinct lack of whores.

[Mr.Spock]

What about it? Looked like a normal Grand Theft Auto game to me. Although I did notice a distinct lack of whores.

you didnt noticed the german music, the fact that all the victims were jews, the title "final solution", the black and white montage? i wonder, do you have eyes?

[invert_nexus]

What's your point exactly?

It would have been better if it had been whores?

Anyway, I noticed a couple of jews. Or at least they had big bushy beards, but that's not really conclusive. Anyway, I also noticed others that could have been any race at all.

What exactly are you trying to say here?
Should this be in ethics, computer science, or what?
I really don't get your point.

[Mr.Spock]

like squidword said? do you have any brain???????

FINAL SOLUTION? TARGETING JEWS? GERMAN MUSIC? BLACK AND WHITE MONTAGE? RINGS ANY BELLS?????????????


The Final Solution (German: Die Endlösung) was Nazi Germany's plan and execution of its systematic genocide against European Jewry during World War II, resulting in the final, most deadly phase of the Holocaust (Shoah). Hitler termed it: "the solution of the Jewish question in Europe."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution

[invert_nexus]

I repeat.
What's your point?
Hitler is dead. The Holocaust is over.

What are you trying to say?

[Mr.Spock]

I repeat.
What's your point?
Hitler is dead. The Holocaust is over.

What are you trying to say?


so you can understand its about the holocaust and it only took me 3 posts.


What about it? Looked like a normal Grand Theft Auto game to me. Although I did notice a distinct lack of whores.

so now that we advanced you want me to explain to you the obvious which is Hitler maybe dead, his ideas are not, the video was antisemitic NAZI crap but invert nexus think its fun to laugh at it because he didnt saw enough whores.

yippi. ill be sure to note that the next time.

no whores, hi hi.

[invert_nexus]

So you're saying you have no point, right?

So. It's not about video games. Computer culture is out. It's about ethics? How so? Is the game bad? Should the game be outlawed because it allows you to kill jews? But it's ok to kill whores, yes?

Seems pointless to me.
Unless you can say what point you're trying to make I suppose it ends up in the cesspool.

but invert nexus think its fun to laugh at it because he didnt saw enough whores.

I also thought it was funny when that one jew tried standing up but got blasted again.

But, really, it was always funner killing pedestrians with bludgeoning weapons in GTA in my opinion. This video really missed out on that. Too much gunfire.

[Mr.Spock]

So you're saying you have no point, right?

So. It's not about video games. Computer culture is out. It's about ethics? How so? Is the game bad? Should the game be outlawed because it allows you to kill jews? But it's ok to kill whores, yes?

Seems pointless to me.
Unless you can say what point you're trying to make I suppose it ends up in the cesspool.



I also thought it was funny when that one jew tried standing up but got blasted again.

But, really, it was always funner killing pedestrians with bludgeoning weapons in GTA in my opinion. This video really missed out on that. Too much gunfire.

so you loved the video and the connotation to the holocaust? is that your point? it doesnt bother you at all? its not disturbing? consider that my point!

[invert_nexus]

Nope.
Didn't bother me at all.

Flush.

[Stryder]

You pick a video that a person made that obviously has their own biases. After all GTA's universe isn't filled with a whole load of white people and a few Jewish people scattered about. There's obviously Eastern European immigrants, Mexican Immigrants, Indian's, Jamaicans, English and of course African Americans.

Obviously it only takes one person with a warped mind and bias to generate an video against any of these groups of people mentioned.

Your comments shouldn't be made about the game but the actual person that made the video.

As for Video game violence, GTA is tongue in cheek, it pushes all the boundaries of the absurd things you aren't suppose to do as a form of entertainment and release. There have been many other forms of entertainment for many years that have perhaps generated violence in example: Having kids play with wooden swords (obviously bashing each others going to cause some rough housing), Watching the News (Murders, Wars, Death... morbid lot us humans hey?) and most importantly POLITICS. (This is of course how wars start).

So don't ban the Game, Ban Politics :)

[Mr.Spock]

i dont care about the game the thread is about the video. it was extracted from GTA 4. if that was their intention? i really dont know.


and WTF is this doing in the cesspool? arent there any rules here? i dont want to turn this thread into something it isnt but SAM posted 2 political threads in free thoughts and she didnt made any obvious point but they are still there. this really pisses me off.

[invert_nexus]

It's obviously racism.

[Mr.Spock]

It's obviously racism.

its hypocrisy not racism, or something personal but what ever it is its still pisses me off. i wonder how come two threads on palestinians with no points are still there hu?

[invert_nexus]

Just checked one thread, by the way, about the electric car that you spammed up with your racist nonsense. It's cleaned and I'm going to move it to General Technology where it belongs. I'd ask you not to spam it up again please.

As to whatever threads you're blathering about. Have you ever heard of the report button? I've not received any reports and haven't noticed them myself. I doubt they could be as pointless as this thread though.

[redarmy11]

No thread is pointless. All are equal.

[Mr.Spock]

Just checked one thread, by the way, about the electric car that you spammed up with your racist nonsense. It's cleaned and I'm going to move it to General Technology where it belongs. I'd ask you not to spam it up again please.

As to whatever threads you're blathering about. Have you ever heard of the report button? I've not received any reports and haven't noticed them myself. I doubt they could be as pointless as this thread though.

a thread discussing about promoting violence is nonsense? you should read then the responses NAZIS made on the video, too bad it was removed from you tube. i want to see you say that when its your kids in danger for being born different invert nexus.

maybe then it wont be nonsense then.

and i never write anything racist! easy to blame me for racist stuff after deleting right?

but a video showing someone killing jews isnt racism and disturbing at all right???

[invert_nexus]

Moved the psychopath thread to World Events. It seemed to have a point. Just not one properly suited for Free Thoughts.

Your thread, by the way, Spock, could have been placed either in Computer Culture or Ethics but you repeatedly refused to clarify a point. You seem to indicate that you simply want to disturb people with your thread. That's why it's here.

[invert_nexus]

and i never write anything racist! easy to blame me for racist stuff after deleting right?


Heh.
You proposed your own Final Solution, Spock.
And you started a racist rant in a thread on electric cars.
You really should get your bias checked a little.

And, I repeat.
You refused to give a purpose for this thread. If you wished it to be placed in Ethics I would have done so. You only indicated the desire to disturb.

but a video showing someone killing jews isnt racism and disturbing at all right???

Racist? Sure. You posted a racist video. You want to be warned about it or something?
And, no, not disturbing. Sorry.

[Mr.Spock]

Moved the psychopath thread to World Events. It seemed to have a point. Just not one properly suited for Free Thoughts.

Your thread, by the way, Spock, could have been placed either in Computer Culture or Ethics but you repeatedly refused to clarify a point. You seem to indicate that you simply want to disturb people with your thread. That's why it's here.

my point is stated in the first post-"what do you think?"

and i ask again what racist posts???

[redarmy11]

i dont care about the game the thread is about the video. it was extracted from GTA 4. if that was their intention? i really dont know.
I assume it's a mod, where the original's pedestrians have been given a bit of a makeover.

I expect whoever made it found it quite funny. Aaaaaand... it is. Is it your intention to turn the Holocaust into a joke?

(I'm kidding. Not about it being funny, because it is - if only for its outrage quotient. But, hey, there are some sick people in the world. What are you gonna do..).

[Mr.Spock]

Heh.
You proposed your own Final Solution, Spock.
And you started a racist rant in a thread on electric cars.
You really should get your bias checked a little.

And, I repeat.
You refused to give a purpose for this thread. If you wished it to be placed in Ethics I would have done so. You only indicated the desire to disturb.

what final solution? i cant defend myself without links and context. maybe you just didnt understood my point??? im 99.9 ironic.


and what racist rants? you are going to attack me and then delete my posts so i cant defend myself??? what is this BS???

at least link me to them? can you do that?

[Mr.Spock]

I assume it's a mod, where the original's pedestrians have been given a bit of a makeover.

I expect whoever made it found it quite funny. Aaaaaand... it is. Is it your intention to turn the Holocaust into a joke?

(I'm kidding. Not about it being funny, because it is - if only for its outrage quotient. But, hey, there are some sick people in the world. What are you gonna do..).

i didnt found it funny at all. i found it disgusting. making fun of the holocaust? im sure who made this is some NAZI moron.

[invert_nexus]

It actually made me wish I had a new Xbox or Playstation (whichever it is on) because the slaughter is so much more realistic than the other GTA's.
I miss killing whores. I don't think they've ever provided jews for the killing before. I've killed blacks, chinese, jamaicans, italians, etc etc etc but never a jew.
Looks cool.
Still, though, I think that bludgeoning them is way funner. I remember how he really got into kicking those whores in GTA 1. Those were the days.

[invert_nexus]

what final solution? i cant defend myself without links and context. maybe you just didnt understood my point??? im 99.9 ironic.

Well, I can't see them now either. You responded something along the lines of "I've got a solution but you're not going to like it" when asked about the Palestinians. Your intent was obvious.

Regardless, even if you deny the charges of racism (and I really don't give a shit to tell you the truth) you are most definitely guilty of going off topic and hijacking a thread.

This thread is technically off topic too, of course, But there wasn't much of a topic to begin with.
You have a habit of that.

[Mr.Spock]

It actually made me wish I had a new Xbox or Playstation (whichever it is on) because the slaughter is so much more realistic than the other GTA's.
I miss killing whores. I don't think they've ever provided jews for the killing before. I've killed blacks, chinese, jamaicans, italians, etc etc etc but never a jew.
Looks cool.
Still, though, I think that bludgeoning them is way funner. I remember how he really got into kicking those whores in GTA 1. Those were the days.

are you going to allow me to defend myself or are you still persisting the point i made racist rants after you deleted my posts?

[invert_nexus]

i didnt found it funny at all. i found it disgusting. making fun of the holocaust? im sure who made this is some NAZI moron.

No problem with beating up whores though, right? That's the usual target on GTA.

Maybe GTA5 will star some Palestinians for you to kick around? Would you like that?

[invert_nexus]

are you going to allow me to defend myself or are you still persisting the point i made racist rants after you deleted my posts?

Doesn't matter.

[Kadark]

The best thing is fucking the whore, killing her after she gets out of your car, and taking back the money you paid her.

But Jews? Shit, I'm getting excited just thinking about this. I'm purchasing the game by the end of this month, so I have plenty of time to brainstorm a list of different ways to slaughter innocent Jews on the sidewalk. Chainsaw? Classy, but a little too messy. Baseball bat? Amateur. Colt python? Too easy. Flamethrower sounds fun, now that I think about it. There's an added bonus of hearing the Jew scream in agony as his skin roasts.

Ah, GTA - you just gotta love it.

[Mr.Spock]

Well, I can't see them now either. You responded something along the lines of "I've got a solution but you're not going to like it" when asked about the Palestinians.

excuse me, but are you a complete idiot? what is racist about that? so you accuse me of being racist but dont even have the ability to prove it? i was talled about not wanting to find a solution so i said my solution is not something you are going to like. i never said anything about a final solution you made that up and you admit you made that up and frankly to tell you the truth i dont give a damned what you think because you obviously dont have the least of decency.

in fact i think you are the racist for linking racist rants when none exist! talk about narrow minded.

well this thread is pretty much down the toilet now.

[Mr.Spock]

Doesn't matter.

doesnt matter???? so because you are a moderator you can accuse me of anything and then delete the same posts so i cant explain myself? so dont accuse me then in public!

this is fucking BS!!!

[invert_nexus]

Whatever you say, Spock.

[invert_nexus]

I deleted the posts for being off-topic.
Because they were.

Why don't you use some more exclamation marks? It'll get your point across better.

[Mr.Spock]

Just checked one thread, by the way, about the electric car that you spammed up with your racist nonsense. It's cleaned and I'm going to move it to General Technology where it belongs. I'd ask you not to spam it up again please.


you accused me of spamming a thread with racist comments and then you deleted them so now i cant explain myself. you made it public, you give me the ability to defend myself, so i can at least know for what im being accused off. either that or concede. i made no racist rants what so ever!

[invert_nexus]

Yawn.

I don't care.
Just don't spam it up again.

If you've got sand in your panties then appeal to Plazma.

[Mr.Spock]

Yawn.

I don't care.
Just don't spam it up again.

If you've got sand in your panties then appeal to Plazma.

you bet your ass i will! this is BS!!! accuse someone in public and then delete his posts???

this is unheard of. i cant believe you are 35.

[invert_nexus]

!!!!!!!

[Dr Lou Natic]

aw, oh yes! yes!.... aw yeah! yep! uhuh! yes! Aww shit yeah! ahhhh! fuck! yeaaahhsss!!!!!....*cleans up*
Phew
Thanks for that mr spock.

I just can't believe I still haven't gotten around to buying this.

My critique would be too much focuss on repeatedly shooting dead bodies, invert's right, more bludgeoning and stabbing and stomping would have been better. There's so many things you can do, I always liked punching with the uzi and then in the same fluid motion pumping them full of lead as they fall.
It was a well made video, just needed snippets from me playing instead of that guy.
I did like near the end when he was jumping celebratorily in place on the carcass.
Thanks again spock.

[lepustimidus]

Kadark and Dr Lou, it's nice to know that I'm not the only one. I'd rather my character beat them to death with his bare hands, though.

[DJ Erock]

i didnt found it funny at all. i found it disgusting. making fun of the holocaust? im sure who made this is some NAZI moron.


I'm not really certain that this movie is in any way related to the holocaust, unless you perceive the theme of each being the same. There wasn't really any time in the holocaust in which any civilian ran around shooting Jewish people. The events in this video all took place in a fictional representation of current day New York. The Holocaust took place in WWII Germany and surrounding countries. I don't see how the plot or any events in the video are in any way similar to the Holocaust in any way. Even if the movie were made by a Nazi, they are no longer a powerful political force, and in no way is this media made in order to inspire a present day movement of the same kind.

The connection between this video and the Holocaust is weak. Perhaps you could find us a video of this being performed by a German soldier, I would be a bit more concerned about any type of Holocaust.

[Plazma Inferno!]

This video is fan made. It has nothing with the game itself.

Some sick brain thought it would be fun to put 'infamous' "Lili Marleen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Marleen)" into one of the most popular game franchises, to push his own agenda.

It has a strong reference not only to Holocaust, but also to all killings committed in the name of the Reich.

Personally, I'm disgusted. But, it shouldn't be taken seriously. It's just a morbid game of sick individuals.

World is full of assholes who will always make fun of other people's misery.

[Prince_James]

Deutschland...Deutschland...uber alles...uber alles in der Welt!

That was a stupid video, but I have to admit, I think it was a pretty funny idea.

Watch them now erase the Jews from the game.

[Stryder]

Other points about the game:

The Jewish community is represented in the game and is not a mod (Liberty City is suppose to be an Alternative New York which wouldn't be complete without it's communities being represented) Obviously other communities are represented too.

The XBOX 360 version some might of been disappointed by because you:
Don't fly jets
Don't have a parachute
Don't train to be physically fit or have a stamina bar
Don't have Chainsaws, Machete's or Flamethrower's or Giant dildo's for Melee attacks.
You can't buy apartments
There is no turf to war over in single player mode.
You can't swim under water.
No tanks or APC's.
Assault helicopter doesn't fire rockets.


What additions they have is:
spending money on a hooker is now three tier with animations to match.
Obviously there is only Warm coffee.
Lap dancers increase in number by the third dance.
There is a whole host of ingame internet sites to laugh about for the parodies. (Just don't visit Littlelacyssuprisepagent.com without being stockpiled on guns and body armour)
There is an ingame television to watch with a couple of shows and of course entertainment like a cabaret show and Comedy club.
Some of the Radio banter is actual internet users that phoned up the phone number given last year to potentially be added to the game as radio callers.
The map is only a little smaller than the whole of San Andreas.
Cars take a bit more damage before exploding and have better physics. (Most damage put on the car will stay on the car like gunshots, broken windows, flat tyres, broken axles etc.)


It's suggesting that with the XBOX 360 that in the near future Rockstar will release new content, not just as an additional weapon or an extra vehicle (like a tank) but expansions like Missions and as some people have even put forwards potentially map extensions (although this is unconfirmed).

Perhaps they will create a coffee mod you can download if you are into some polygon on polygon action.

[Anti-Flag]

Two dead jews - 22.
Shooting spicks - Number 6.
Drive by honky - Number 3.

Give me enough time I might get a full house.