Atheism causes delusional idiocy and dishonesty

I disagree that mocking the belief is separate from mocking the individual who believes. Hence this thread.

So, is the statement "Atheism causes delusional idiocy and dishonesty" addressing atheism only? And not the individuals who happen to be atheists?

 

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No it is statement directed at the person who holds those views, just like you may say "Being American makes you a moron", You are not just saying that America is moronic but all those who inhabit it are moronic as well.

I'm not sure I care for your title though

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Perhaps you could have addressed the issue in a less combative way?


There is also a fine line between criticism and mocking.

 

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I'm just a violent, lying, delusional Islamofascist (or is it Islamist or Islamic fundamentalist?)

What do I know?

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Uh, are you kidding ME?

 

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Shich is right. If you just mock a characteristic of a belief and not directing the mockery towards anyone, then you are NOT mocking the person. Although you may be offending them.

 

Deciding that the right decision for yourself is to not believe in something is not the same as mocking that belief, let alone the believer. Nor is that anyone's business. Judging an atheist is no better than judging a believer.

 

Yes, if you were to say (blank) part iof atheism is idiotic(even here I would stress that the words you use to be critical also are determinative in the way the criticism is viewed), thats fine, but when you say atheism causes idiocy then you are just insulting anyone who is an atheist.

 

Q made somewhat of an ignorant and immature statement there. Since he condemned and overgeneralized Islamic befiefs, it would be very offensive to any self-respecting person, Islamic or not. Don't feel bad, Q is just saying that because only the bad, fundamentalist side of islam is being expressed to him by Faux media.

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Hmm so you think its appropriate to say:

The fact that Islam demands humans be delusional liars and violent barbarians...

 

No, do you fail to see the distinction?

 

When someone makes a childish choice to generalize in an arguement like that, don't even bother with him/her. When they feel the need to do that, they really have no idea what they are talking about.

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True, if you have an argument against something at least take an intellectual approach to it.

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So he's displaying delusional idiocy and/or dishonesty?

I'm right !!!

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Ahh but shouldn't you be taking the high road of attributing this "idiocy" to him and not to the atheist group as a whole?

 

I love you too.

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Just the individual, it does not have anything to do with his beliefs, just the person. So when you generalize, all you are doing is feeding the fire and not solving a thing.

 

If you read the OP, I said I disagree.

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Then couldn't you take anything anyone has done in that context and attribute it to whatever group they are a part of?

Is mocking the individual also mocking the belief then?

 

No I don't. But not all atheists are like that. Just as many people of various religions make derogatory comments to atheists and opposing religions. Grouping all Islamics is horrible, as is grouping all atheists and calling them idiotic and dishonest. Stereotypes are not okay against some groups but not others. What you said about atheism makes you just as bad as those who said that about Islam.

Pretty much what Exeter said.

 

Exactly!!

 

Hmm good question. So if a person calls himself a Nazi, can you say he is identifying himself as a good person?

edit, I find it interesting that everyone seems to have missed the fact that I disagreed with the sentiment expressed in the title.

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