Given that most politicans if not all are morally challenged, can they go to heaven?

[joepistole]

Will I find politicans in heaven? If so, do I really want to go to heaven?

[sowhatifit'sdark]

Perhaps their heaven is not yours and you will glide by each other like ghosts.

[sandy]

Reagan is in Heaven. Guaranteed. :)

[joepistole]

So there is a separate heaven for Democrats and Republicans or are we to believe the secret Gosple of Paul that says everyone can go to heaven once in the sprit world if they repent.

[sandy]

I can't discuss my religious beliefs or I get threatened/warned. If you want to discuss this I will be glad to do it in PM.:)

[Orleander]

Will I find politicans in heaven? If so, do I really want to go to heaven?

I think they have the same shot at heaven just as everyone else does. ;)

[Syzygys]

80% of believers can't make it to heaven....

[Orleander]

yeah, I'm gonna go with 100%

[spidergoat]

Reagan is in Heaven. Guaranteed. :)

Whoa, hold it right there. He sponsored the nun-raping Sandinistas with weapons sales to Iran.

[sowhatifit'sdark]

Reagan is in Heaven. Guaranteed. :)
but he married a divorced woman which is a no, no in the OT.

[sowhatifit'sdark]

I think they have the same shot at heaven just as everyone else does. ;)

Jesus made some comments about how hard it is for the rich to get into heaven. Politicians, especially at the national level, tend to be rich and they must please the rich.

[sowhatifit'sdark]

Whoa, hold it right there. He sponsored the nun-raping Sandinistas with weapons sales to Iran.

You mean freedom fighter rapists. (had to make that joke) He also was friends with Sadaam Hussein, even knowing what the guy was doing to his people and the Kurds, he was friends with Noriega. He supported dicatators in South America who, as he and his people were well aware, were torturing large %ages of the population because of their beliefs or even potential beliefs.

[Orleander]

Jesus made some comments about how hard it is for the rich to get into heaven. Politicians, especially at the national level, tend to be rich and they must please the rich.

as an atheist, I gotta tell ya, they have as much chance as you do. ;)

[joepistole]

Thanks Sandy, I am sorry you cannot express your beliefs. I will follow-up with you off line.

[Adstar]

I think i will probably not see many politicians in eternity. Serving the powers of this world is serving satan.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[Lori_7]

Excuse me but, who said that God pays attention to morals? Oh yeah, the politicians! Morals are man-made. God pays attention to sincerity and intention. And we are all challenged. What does the Bible say? Your works don't get you to heaven. None of us are good...no, not one. We are not fit to judge. We don't have the capacity. We don't have the knowledge. To think that our morals coincide with God's perspective is foolish.

[Lori_7]

I think i will probably not see many politicians in eternity. Serving the powers of this world is serving satan.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

I'd bet you'll see Ron Paul there. :)

And now that I think about it, it doesn't say anything against being a ruler or a representative of the people, or a public servant in the Bible. It says quite the opposite actually. Like anything else, it just depends on what your motives are.

[Orleander]

I'd bet you'll see Ron Paul there. :)

And now that I think about it, it doesn't say anything against being a ruler or a representative of the people, or a public servant in the Bible. It says quite the opposite actually. Like anything else, it just depends on what your motives are.


If heaven existed, I think Paul Simon the politician would be there too.

[joepistole]

Sometimes i get the impression people think morals are for the other guy.

[Adstar]

I'd bet you'll see Ron Paul there. :)

And now that I think about it, it doesn't say anything against being a ruler or a representative of the people, or a public servant in the Bible. It says quite the opposite actually. Like anything else, it just depends on what your motives are.

Who is Ron Paul?

"Public servant" lol what lie of a title. Like when you see the title "peoples republic" you know only too well it is not the peoples at all but owned by a small violent and repressive elite.

The Bible says to love and serve others and we can do that without selling out to satan by joining his governments, police forces or armies.

Individuals and help other individuals.



All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[pjdude1219]

politions are so crappy they can't get into hell let alone heaven

[cosmictraveler]

Will I find politicans in heaven? If so, do I really want to go to heaven?

That question is something only you can answer.

[flameofanor5]

Will I find politicans in heaven? If so, do I really want to go to heaven?

Most of the people here don't even believe in Heaven... >.>

[shichimenshyo]

no ?????