Why would anyone fear GOD?

[Jozen-Bo]

For anyone who believes in God, as I do,

Why would anyone fear God?

It makes no sense to me?

Is it the books? Word of mouth? Just wondering.

[Enmos]

I guess if you believe in an all powerful being that can do whatever it wants, and that says you must do this and you must do that etc.. people can get intimidated.. ;)

[joepistole]

If you fear yourself, you fear God. If you love God, you fear nothing, and love all things as God created them and intended them to be.

[Nikelodeon]

He demands fear and respect.

[Jozen-Bo]

Those are both very good answers!!!

[Jozen-Bo]

Since when do men give birth? Who says God is a he? From my perspective I God being a female Goddess is much sexier and appealing!
That wouldn't be a female fantasy...would it (a male God that demands fear and respect and gets it)?

[Nikelodeon]

When they are creating the universe.

[Enmos]

Who says God is a he. Since when do men give birth?

Are you saying God gave birth to the universe like a woman gives birth to a child ?

[Jozen-Bo]

Create, gave birth, projected from the self, its all the same to me. Life comes out and lives. Yes, I do associate that as someone Women do.

[Benthur]

People fear God because a lot of peole are afraid that doing certain things might block their entrance into heaven. It would seem like you live your entire life wondering if you're good enough.

[Enmos]

People fear God because a lot of peole are afraid that doing certain things might block their entrance into heaven. It would seem like you live your entire life wondering if you're good enough.

And being blocked from heaven van only mean one thing, right ? Hell..

[Jozen-Bo]

There's some insight!!! When they did it!!! Life comes together and makes life!!! God is where 2 are 1, as All are None.

[Enmos]

There's some insight!!! When they did it!!! Life comes together and makes life!!! God is where 2 are 1, as All are None.

What do you mean ?

[Jozen-Bo]

I wouldn't call it hell If I enjoyed being there. Female devils can be sexy...that's what my body says at least, I think my mind follows. Then again...so are Angels!!! Hot Sex in the Fire!!!! Yeaahh!!!

[Enmos]

I wouldn't call it hell If I enjoyed being there. Female devils can be sexy...that's what my body says at least, I think my mind follows. Then again...so are Angels!!! Hot Sex in the Fire!!!! Yeaahh!!!

Are you sure you believe in God ? lol :p

[machaon]

If you fear yourself, you fear God. If you love God, you fear nothing, and love all things as God created them and intended them to be.


Can you explain to me again why marijuana is illegal?

[losfomoT]

For anyone who believes in God, as I do,

Why would anyone fear God?

It makes no sense to me?

Is it the books? Word of mouth? Just wondering.

Well, I'm just through the first 4 books of the bible, and at this point, I don't understand how anyone can not fear God

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=76390

[Jozen-Bo]

I mean that God is only God when United in Whole. The Whole is both Male and Female, Everything and Nothing, Yin and Yang are the same together. Its this fusion that brings about life. God had/is having/is going to have more sex with Goddess and little spirit babies come out of the Really Really Big Bang. And what do babies do? You don't need to look hard to see, Nature reproduces itself over and over again.

[Jozen-Bo]

I see God every second of my life no matter where I look. I feel God everywhere. I breath God in. I hear God always. I Love God in every Form God presents. I cherish God. I am very happy to be. The Sun shines for me when I settle my emotions, too many coincides by now for me to wonder. But you are right...I don't believe in God in the usual sense. Do you believe you have fingers?

[Enmos]

I mean that God is only God when United in Whole. The Whole is both Male and Female, Everything and Nothing, Yin and Yang are the same together. Its this fusion that brings about life. God had/is having/is going to have more sex with Goddess and little spirit babies come out of the Really Really Big Bang. And what do babies do? You don't need to look hard to see, Nature reproduces itself over and over again.

You certainly do not adhere to the commonly accepted Christian concept of God, it's cool though :)
Pagan influences ?

[Enmos]

I see God every second of my life no matter where I look. I feel God everywhere. I breath God in. I hear God always. I Love God in every Form God presents. I cherish God. I am very happy to be. The Sun shines for me when I settle my emotions, too many coincides by now for me to wonder. But you are right...I don't believe in God in the usual sense. Do you believe you have fingers?

No, I know I have fingers.. no believe there ;)

[Jozen-Bo]

((((( Originally Posted by Jozen-Bo
I wouldn't call it hell If I enjoyed being there. Female devils can be sexy...that's what my body says at least, I think my mind follows. Then again...so are Angels!!! Hot Sex in the Fire!!!! Yeaahh!!!
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Are you sure you believe in God ? lol )))))





Oh yeah...that Devil tid-bit. Sorry...can't help it....it is sexy!!! Why would god make me that way?

[nova900]

For anyone who believes in God, as I do,

Why would anyone fear God?

It makes no sense to me?

Is it the books? Word of mouth? Just wondering.

An Idealogy created by men to keep people from straying from what they wanted them to believe.
Fear can do amazing things to people.

[Jozen-Bo]

Has any one ever seen Kali or heard her voice? Would God not explore different forms of Pleasure instead of always being in One? Could you eat pizza for the rest of your life?

[Enmos]

Oh yeah...that Devil tid-bit. Sorry...can't help it....it is sexy!!! Why would god make me that way?

Huh ? lol Is that a reply to my post above ?
Please quote the post you are replying to in your post, makes things easier ;)

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For god shall smite you if he pleases!

[blobrana]

Hum,
indeed.

i have often wondered how could a good and merciful, and all powerful and wise god such as Mithras would allow suffering, ignorance evil in the world.

But i reckon, because there is suffering and evil in the world then that proves that Mithra is not good and merciful. If we reason that Mithra introduced evil and suffering and disease and death to us to make us better then we can reason that Mithra is flawed, and the god is not all powerful and wise.

Therefore if you believe in such a god then you should have fear.

[SnakeLord]

Why would anyone fear GOD?

From a biblical perspective because he demands it and shows favour to those that do fear him. Ruling through fear is quite typical of tyrants and the biblical god is no exception.

[Enmos]

((((( Originally Posted by Jozen-Bo
I wouldn't call it hell If I enjoyed being there. Female devils can be sexy...that's what my body says at least, I think my mind follows. Then again...so are Angels!!! Hot Sex in the Fire!!!! Yeaahh!!!
”
Are you sure you believe in God ? lol )))))

Oh yeah...that Devil tid-bit. Sorry...can't help it....it is sexy!!! Why would god make me that way?

You must know I am what they call an atheist though.
So the devil bit doesn't bother me at all ;)

[geeser]

For anyone who believes in God, as I do,

Why would anyone fear God?

It makes no sense to me?

Is it the books? Word of mouth? Just wondering.if god asked to to kill someone, would you do it?

[lightgigantic]

I guess if you believe in an all powerful being that can do whatever it wants, and that says you must do this and you must do that etc.. people can get intimidated.. ;)
so it's kind of like a policeman

they are only feared by criminals

others who exist in the normal social order feel secure

:)

[Enmos]

so it's kind of like a policeman

they are only feared by criminals

others who exist in the normal social order feel secure

:)

I imagine it would be like that yeah..
But then Christians can be horribly insecure about their own good intentions, strangely enough..

[lightgigantic]

I imagine it would be like that yeah..
But then Christians can be horribly insecure about their own good intentions, strangely enough..
hence any religious discipline that advocates "fear of god" as the ultimate relationship with god is far from perfectional.
It may be good premise initially to install a bit of discipline or obedience, but such relationships cannot persevere.

[Enmos]

hence any religious discipline that advocates "fear of god" as the ultimate relationship with god is far from perfectional.
I agree.

It may be good premise initially to install a bit of discipline or obedience, but such relationships cannot persevere.
History tells us otherwise though. Strict religions do seem to survive.

[lightgigantic]

History tells us otherwise though. Strict religions do seem to survive.
I was meaning that a relationship forged on fear cannot persevere. In an eternal relationship of fear, something would have to give

[Enmos]

I was meaning that a relationship forged on fear cannot persevere. In an eternal relationship of fear, something would have to give

Ah.. I agree then.

[Jozen-Bo]

Kaboom!!!

Someone asked if I would kill if God told me to. No. I am me and God knows that. I would kill someone if they broke into my house and attacked me or I would be killed. It doesn't matter, I'll live as long as I am going to.

I wouldn't kill for any other reason, if I could help it. Because to kill another is to kill your own spirit. Not entirely, but you do become spiritually retarded. That is not what I want, no no.

Has anyone here ever seen the devil???

[Nikelodeon]

Once, in the park.

[Jozen-Bo]

No way....REALLY????

I must hear a description..please do tell????

[Nikelodeon]

Out of the corner of my eye. I turned to look but it was gone.

[S.A.M.]

For anyone who believes in God, as I do,

Why would anyone fear God?

It makes no sense to me?

Is it the books? Word of mouth? Just wondering.

Those who fear God are those who fear themselves.

[Jozen-Bo]

Bummer.

I came face to face.

First time it was a dream...but it was more then that. We had a little brawl...
I was younger then. I thought he beat me, now I don"t know what to think.

Second time it wasn't a dream, and appearing male, he was purely angry with me. I think he tried to take me out of the picture, but something else happened.

[geeser]

Kaboom!!!

Someone asked if I would kill if God told me to. No. I am me and God knows that. so you would go against gods wishes, dosn't it bother you, what he might do to you for defying him.

[Jozen-Bo]

I have no Fear. None. Not even a little. I enjoy danger and defiance!!!
My parents are both Buddhists and I grow up learning and practicing Buddhism. Now I walk my own path and have my own Religion. According to some texts in Buddhism, I might be burning in Hell for a very long time. There are also verses in the bibile that would surely condemn me to eternal hell.

I am free from fear!!! I do not believe in hell!!! We make hell ourselves fromthe inside. Do you really love anyone? Could you be happy in Heavan if the person you love was suffering the agonies being in of Hell? If so...then some lover you are. If not, then your heart is functioning as a heart should!

Sometimes a good child must defy his parents in order to stay true to them!
I do what my heart feels is right, not what others...no matter how high in the heirechy, tell me to do!!!

[geeser]

I have no Fear. None. Not even a little. I enjoy danger and defiance!!!
My parents are both Buddhists and I grow up learning and practicing Buddhism. Now I walk my own path and have my own Religion. According to some texts in Buddhism, I might be burning in Hell for a very long time. There are also verses in the bibile that would surely condemn me to eternal hell.

I am free from fear!!! I do not believe in hell!!! We make hell ourselves fromthe inside. Do you really love anyone? Could you be happy in Heavan if the person you love was suffering the agonies being in of Hell? If so...then some lover you are. If not, then your heart is functioning as a heart should!

Sometimes a good child must defy his parents in order to stay true to them!
I do what my heart feels is right, not what others...no matter how high in the heirechy, tell me to do!!!totally agree well said.
Sorry I thought you were a christian.

[Vega]

Ah! Fear...it can drive any living species to do anything!
Some fears are mild anxieties, while others terrorize, freezing you before you can make a decision. Social situations, tests and risky environments can be a source of fear

[Cris]

Issues of morality are a key aspect of most religions and in ancient times harsh authroritarianism was the expected and accepted method for controlling the masses. The message is essentially do what you are told or be punished. Justice was rare and those in power had the final say. It is no surprise then that the religions and the concepts of gods that those early peoples created would reflect their accepted life values.

Christianity took the concept to its logical extreme - the imagined reward is imortality in a utopian paradise and the punishment is eternal torture/death. A single 'one'god' concept is simply a reductionist simplification of the extreme.

Perhaps today with our concepts of democracy new religions might be created with multiple gods who take a vote on what is right and wrong. But also today we often see deviant bahavior as a psychological issue, to be cured, and not punished.

If you believe in these antiquated authoritarian concepts as true then you should fear your imagined god since a simple mistake on your part will result in your permanent death or eternal torture - such is the cruel nature of the Christian principles.

Of course many Christian cults teach that once you sincerely accept Jesus as your savior then you have nothing more to fear. Any further mistakes you make won't count against you. The problem here is that apart from the radical extremist highly emotional born-agains, most Christians I have met periodically experience waves of doubt about some of their 'sins' and wonder what they can do extra to ensure their reward. I.e. the in built fear of punishment remains a key component of human nature, it is what has evolved with us to help in our survival.

The serious downside to the "I am saved and no need to worry" feature is that it promotes a lack of responsibility for ones actions. In reality what we observe is that if you do something wrong then the action cannot be undone and you must live with the consequences. Even if the person realized their mistake later it still causes great stress for many and something they would like to remove.

That leads us to the Church of Scientology who uses that exact principle and teaches how to remove those stressful blocks from your brain... but then that takes us to a whole different level of what religious fear means.

[Jozen-Bo]

Whats this about Scientology? I know so little about it?
I co-worker of mine once told me that L Ron Hubbarb was a freind of Aleister Crowly. Is that true?