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John99
10-23-07, 06:50 PM
Do any exist? I know the Christians seem to have a manopoly on this, especially Catholics.

Thanks

S.A.M.
10-23-07, 06:52 PM
Bill Gates

shichimenshyo
10-23-07, 06:53 PM
In seattle there is an atheist group who did free Christmas present wrapping and took donations for charity last year.

spidergoat
10-23-07, 06:53 PM
The Red Cross
Oxfam
United Way
http://www.the-brights.net/action/brightsonly/secularist_charities.htm

John99
10-23-07, 06:53 PM
Thank you S.A.M.

He is a Philanthorist (more money than he knows to do with).

Cris
10-23-07, 06:54 PM
The red cross and the red crescent are secular organizations and by far the largest humanitarian institutions/charities in the world.

John99
10-23-07, 06:56 PM
The Red Cross
Oxfam
United Way
http://www.the-brights.net/action/brightsonly/secularist_charities.htm

Thanks. I was looking more for smaller organised one like these:

http://www.ccab.org/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=zz7&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Catholic+charities&spell=1
http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=Christian+charities&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
http://dir.yahoo.com/Society_and_Culture/Religion_and_Spirituality/Faiths_and_Practices/Christianity/Organizations/Charities/

John99
10-23-07, 06:58 PM
The red cross and the red crescent are secular organizations and by far the largest humanitarian institutions/charities in the world.

I thought they were Christian (cross) and Muslim (crescent), guess i was wrong.

Cris
10-23-07, 07:18 PM
John99,

I thought they were Christian (cross) and Muslim (crescent), guess i was wrong.Yup, common mistake.

http://www.redcross.int/en/history/

Baron Max
10-23-07, 07:50 PM
I thought they were Christian (cross) and Muslim (crescent), guess i was wrong.

The Red Cross actually started out as a Christian organization, but slowly evoled into what it is today .....a very large secular corporation!

Baron Max

Orleander
10-23-07, 07:53 PM
I care what they do WITH the money, but I don't care WHO does it. Is who does it a decider for you?

cosmictraveler
10-23-07, 09:52 PM
ASPCA, Green Peace, PTA, World Wildlife Fund, NAACP, ACLU, and on and on.

iceaura
10-23-07, 10:47 PM
Doctors Without Borders, the Nature Conservancy, Habitat For Humanity, several local food shelves, Goodwill, the food drops at the big grocery stores, Legal Aid, a wide variety of scholarship programs locally, medical programs promoting breastfeeding and charity medical care of various kinds,

and so forth.

What an odd question. Most people are theists, and most charity is given by thests - a lot of it even organized by churches and the like.

draqon
10-23-07, 10:49 PM
too many to list.

John99
10-23-07, 11:29 PM
The Red Cross actually started out as a Christian organization, but slowly evoled into what it is today .....a very large secular corporation!

Baron Max

I thought that was the case. It seems to me that since Atheist want to be acknowledged as a group with similar beliefs then instead of massively campaigning on the internet against religion maybe their time would be better spent helping others who are suffering.

Because i can tell you right now in many cases if you are poor and hungry find yourself a Christian run place to get help or starve.

Also, in reference to other post Bill Gates did something really generous and good. My intent was not to diminish this.

John99
10-23-07, 11:34 PM
ASPCA, Green Peace, PTA, World Wildlife Fund, NAACP, ACLU, and on and on.

Give me a break. But i can agree that they do exist although the ones you listed are not what i am talking abou. My intention was not to infer that Atheists are not good people.

spidergoat
10-23-07, 11:39 PM
...Atheist want to be acknowledged as a group with similar beliefs...

I don't believe that. Besides, some of the biggest charities are secular.

John99
10-24-07, 12:29 AM
I don't believe that.

It sure seems that way spidergoat. The fact is once you label somehting it is difficult to NOT become part of the group and individuality becomes less significant, it becomes a movement and your right there trapped in what you seek to avoid. I understand the concept of Atheism and respect it but there is an inherent human need to be a part of something, to identify with a group and Atheists seem to want to deny this of other people and their beliefs. Not all but it can cerainly head in that direction. Well anyway, what do i know? I know i am wrong too often, but the whole of humanity has startling similarities.

John99
10-24-07, 01:42 AM
Besides, some of the biggest charities are secular.

ok, thats true.

ylooshi
10-24-07, 01:51 AM
Borrowed from this fine blog (http://brokenspells.blogspot.com/2007/08/is-religion-just-social-program.html):

1. 4H (http://www.fourhcouncil.edu/)
2. American Cancer Society (http://www.cancer.org/docroot/home/index.asp)
3. American Foundation for AIDS Research (http://www.amfar.org/)
4. Americans United for the Separation of Church & State (www.au.org)
5. Amnesty International (http://www.amnesty.org/)
6. Atheist Charity http://www.atheistcharity.org
7. Doctors without borders (www.doctorswithoutborders.org)
8. Earthward (http://www.earthward.org/)
9. Girl Scouts (www.girlscouts.org)
12. Heifer Project International (www.heifer.org)
13. Humane Society (www.hsus.org)
14. Humanist Institute for Cooperation with Developing Countries (http://www.hivos.nl/)
15. Humanitas (http://www.humanitas.nl)
16. Mama's Kitchen (http://www.mamaskitchen.org/)
17. Nature Conservancy (tnc.org)
18. Oxfam (http://www.oxfam.org/eng/)
19. Planned Parenthood (www.plannedparenthood.org)
20. Population Connection (www.populationconnection.org)
21. Public Radio (www.npr.org)
22. Rails to Trails (www.railtrails.org)
23. Red Cross (www.redcross.org)
24. Sierra Club (http://www.sierraclub.org/)
25. UNICEF (www.unicef.org/)
26. United Way? http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/6440129.htm?1c
27. V (Jim Valvano) Foundation for Cancer Research (www.jimmyv.org)
28. Women for Women International (http://www.womenforwomen.org)
29. World Wildlife Fund (www.wroldwildlife.org)
30. Zoological Society of San Diego (http://www.sandiegozoo.org/)

Alcoholism/Substance Abuse Recovery:
31. Moderation Management (www.moderation.org/)
32. Secular Organizations for Sobriety (http://www.cfiwest.org/sos)
33. SMART Recovery (www.smartrecovery.org)
34. Women for Sobriety (www.womenforsobriety.org)

spidergoat
10-24-07, 02:35 AM
It sure seems that way spidergoat. The fact is once you label somehting it is difficult to NOT become part of the group and individuality becomes less significant, it becomes a movement and your right there trapped in what you seek to avoid. I understand the concept of Atheism and respect it but there is an inherent human need to be a part of something, to identify with a group and Atheists seem to want to deny this of other people and their beliefs. Not all but it can cerainly head in that direction. Well anyway, what do i know? I know i am wrong too often, but the whole of humanity has startling similarities.

Maybe for you religious types who are conditioned into servility.

Bells
10-24-07, 04:03 AM
I understand the concept of Atheism and respect it but there is an inherent human need to be a part of something, to identify with a group and Atheists seem to want to deny this of other people and their beliefs. Not all but it can cerainly head in that direction. Well anyway, what do i know? I know i am wrong too often, but the whole of humanity has startling similarities.

Why would we deny you the right to your religious associations and your sense of belonging? Just because we are atheists does not mean we are selfish and hermits John. There are numerous secular organisations, be it for the basis of charity or others that atheists belong to.

And why should it matter whether the organisation is religious or secular? What should matter is that the donations they receive is given to those who actually need it in the community.

Or are you operating under the assumption that atheists somehow do not care and therefore have no organisations that are secular when it comes to charities? At the end of the day is that those who can help, do so and the last thing that should come into the individual's mind when donating is whether they are supporting a secular or religious charity organisation.

Orleander
10-24-07, 07:58 AM
...And why should it matter whether the organisation is religious or secular? What should matter is that the donations they receive is given to those who actually need it in the community. ....

:bravo:
I'm an atheists, but we give to a Christian charity. In fact, its about the only charity we give to at the moment.

John99
10-24-07, 11:26 AM
Maybe for you religious types who are conditioned into servility.

I honestly have no desire to discuss this matter any further. For one, many here are far too sensitive, and honestly it seems to me the capacity is just not there. I dont mean you spidergoat, you can respond to topics without getting emotional but i see now that there is no real benefit and a small number may be emotionally challenged. From now on i will consider this segment in all future correspondence. I thought that i was a member of a community of thinking people, but i may as well be standing on the corner of a trailer park with a bull horn.

John99
10-24-07, 11:29 AM
:bravo:
I'm an atheists, but we give to a Christian charity. In fact, its about the only charity we give to at the moment.

:bravo:. Good for you.

Orleander
10-24-07, 11:59 AM
we give to #12 on ylooshi's list. Its the gift that keeps on giving.

John99
10-24-07, 12:01 PM
Its the gift that keeps on giving.

do you mean in tax deductions?

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