Love

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by lucifers angel, Sep 14, 2007.

  1. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    Have you ever loved and lost?
    why do we love if all it does is cause pain and heartache?
    Can anyone ever give themselves wholey to someone else?
    Is it ok to look at other people?
    why is it that people seem to come together on valentines day, when all it is, is a commercialised way to get money from us?
     
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  3. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    First, people often confuse lust with love in romantic relationships.

    Love is simple as loving your family, best friend, or your children. It's just caring for another.

    Romantic relationships are based on physical attraction and even better when love is involved.

    We love because it's the most wonderful feeling there is, at least for most people. I see it as the seed of life, we really can't help it. It's much better than lust in my opinion.

    I see loving and losing as mistakes in judgement. This pain is from disillusionment and trying to gain love from the wrong people who do not understand you and also not knowing yourself well. It's trial and error until you learn who is the best type of person for you. When someone really loves you, they don't stop even if separated. At least, that's from my experience.
     
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  5. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    Yes. Recently in fact.

    Because the rewards have no equal if you succeed.

    Define wholly?

    Why shouldn't it be? However I think it would be impolite to be blatantly gawking at someone else whilst your s.o. was right there.


    Loving and losing can also be a 'shit happens' situation too. People change as they get older. Their priorities change.
    I talked to a girl online for almost six months (she lived 3 hours away). I thought there was something there. So when I went down to see her, we had a great first date. I was looking forward to seeing her again, only to recieve an email that basically stated that I wasn't Christian enough for her, and the distance was an issue, and that an ex of hers that was a long distance deal cheated on her.
    1. She never mentioned the level of her faith. And as you mentioned Peta, if you feel strongly enough for someone, that shouldn't be an issue. She also went out with her friends and drank during the week, including going to church w/a hangover. Hypocritcal.
    2. She had six months to decide that the distance was an issue.
    3. She prejudged how I was going to behave based on her ex'es behavior.
    Maybe it was all a big lie, but either way, she never gave me any reason to judge her the way I do now. I won't make that mistake again.
     
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  7. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    can you ever not look at someone else and lust for them sexualy, or even want to love them and hold them? can you see yourself being tied to one person!
     
  8. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    Huh? How do you lust for someone sexually and not look at them? I'm not sure I understand the question.

    Sure


    Of course.
     
  9. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    sorry my bad english,

    can you lust for someone sexually that you shouldnt, why is it that we give ourselfs to just one man/woman for years?
     
  10. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    ^For some people because they actually love them. Others because of security issues, divorce is too much trouble, children etc.
     
  11. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    but if your stuck in a relationship you dont want to be in, why not move on? why stick to one person?
     
  12. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    Like Peta said. Security issues. Some people are just afraid to be alone. I consider those people to be mentally weak. Some stay in a relationship for convenience. I think one of the district managers for the company I work for and her live-in b/f have one of those convenience relationships.

    You're married, aren't you Luci? Why do you stay with your hubby?
     
  13. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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  14. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Love is different between men and women ...and shouldn't be discussed as if it was the same thing. To do so is folly.

    Men can talk about "love", and women can discuss "love", but men and women can't discuss "love" .....or if they do, it's wasted effort and folly.

    Baron Max
     
  15. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I agree.
    I think if our house was on fire, my husband would try and save me first. I would try and save the kids first.
    Does that mean he loves me more than I love him?
     
  16. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    No, it means that the "love" is just different. Not more, not less, just different.

    In your little scenario, he might be thinking that if he doesn't save you, then he'd have to take care of the kids himself ....and he knows that would be damned difficult, if not impossible.

    Baron Max
     
  17. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    And when he came to save me, I'd be pissed. I'd be wanting to know why he wasn't saving the kids. I know we love differently, but then we also fight differently so it just makes sense.
    I often wonder which child I would save first, the boy or girl? My first born or my baby?
     
  18. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    By saving you, he could always make more babies ...but without you, the present kids would probably be in a world of hurt anyway.

    I think that I read somewhere that women are naturally more protective and concerned for the baby. I'm not sure if there's any rationality for it, it just is.

    But I also don't think that it has anything to do with ....that thing we call "love". In a dire situation, people don't always react with reasoning and rationality.

    Baron Max
     
  19. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    Love comes in spurts.
     
  20. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Hmmm, I always thought that the increases with the need to spurt ....then lessens after the spurts?

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  21. wanneszinnig God doesn't work 2day Registered Senior Member

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    1st: we have all lost and loved...we all have or had a family we can love, friends we can love, lovers we can love...We have and will lose all the named persons above...that, togheter with paying taxes...is an axioma.

    2nd: Love causes pain, cause when you love somebody you open up yrself wich, on its turn, makes you sensitive for any emotional action. But if we couln't feel pain, we would never learn. 'Feelingless' people letterly die, cause they don't know wht hurts them.

    3rd: You should never 'give' yrself to somebody...I think you were not made to be somebodies present...the true love is that you find somebody that apreciates the person you are. You can be honest about yrself. Sounds easy, but I don't think it is easy.

    4th: looking to people is interesting...in this way you learn from and about them. You can be attracted to them or not..but hey that is why Mother Nature gave you eyes...to observe and select.

    5t: Valentine is te most stupid dayof the year. Nobody, and surely not the market, should tell you when to love...you should love when you want to and suprise when you feel to. I suggest you take a day off on this day and go to an abounded place and watch the peace overthere...
     
  22. draqon Banned Banned

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    remember when I told you not to get that baby with that percentage of it having a syndrom?

    Of course you will say "nothing changed" and "I would have made the same decision knowing all of this would happen". But deep down...you wouldn't.
     
  23. wanneszinnig God doesn't work 2day Registered Senior Member

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    Nobody ever said you have to have only one man/woman or stay with one man/woman. Do what you feel you have to do, not what the general rules tell you what you are supposed to do so you wouldn't look like a freak to them.
    You have only one life and that life is 100% yours!
     

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