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IamI
08-27-07, 07:59 AM
Hello!

I have heard of three kinds of generating frequencies, by sound, by electricity and by mehacnicle way. but I have no idea how they look how to be used, so my question is simply when you re talking about generate vibration frequencies, How do I produce them? is there an another way BTW?

hope you understand :)

IamI

cosmictraveler
08-27-07, 08:08 AM
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Oli
08-27-07, 08:13 AM
Frequencies of WHAT?
Light has a frequency, as does sound and many other things.

draqon
08-27-07, 08:17 AM
frequency is a cycle of something per unit of time ... anything can have a frequency

cosmictraveler
08-27-07, 08:18 AM
Radio frequencies I think he is asking about that's why I gave those links.

IamI
08-27-07, 11:18 AM
Radio frequencies I think he is asking about that's why I gave those links.



thanx Cosmictraveler, nice name:)
gonan check the sites!
well I was reffering to vbration, i want to be able to vibrate matter at high and low frequencies , metalls paper wood you name it..

can radio frequencies do this, i heard sound can do it?

Oli
08-27-07, 11:20 AM
well I was reffering to vbration, i want to be able to vibrate matter at high and low frequencies , metalls paper wood you name it..
The obvious question would be: why?

spidergoat
08-27-07, 11:56 AM
For mechanical, you could use a motor with a variable rheostat and an unbalanced drive shaft or weight mounted on there.

leopold
08-27-07, 12:28 PM
Hello!

I have heard of three kinds of generating frequencies, by sound, by electricity and by mehacnicle way. but I have no idea how they look how to be used, so my question is simply when you re talking about generate vibration frequencies, How do I produce them? is there an another way BTW?

hope you understand :)

IamI
"generating a frequency" usually refers to electronics, therefor what you need is some form of oscillator.. frequency is measured in cycles per second and is called hertz. for example, if you have an oscillator that produces 56 cycles per second then it is said to produce 56 hertz. you can also add kilo and mega in front of hertz. example for 1000 cycles per second it's called 1 kilohertz or 1 khz, for 1 million cycles per second it's 1 megahertz or 1 mhz.

oscillators come in many different flavors. there are sine, square wave, ramp, and sawtooth oscillators.
sine wave oscillators depend heavily on inductance to produce the wave.
the rest rely mostly on the charge on a capacitor to create the waveform
the exception is the squarewave oscillator. this one is also known as a special kind of flip-flop. it's used almost exclusively in the clock circuits of computers and provides the timing for them.

MacGyver1968
08-27-07, 12:35 PM
I generate "good vibrations" by listening to the "Beach Boys". :)

draqon
08-27-07, 12:36 PM
sex...generates vibrations

leopold
08-27-07, 12:38 PM
. . . variable rheostat . . .
variable rheostat is redundant. a rheostat IS variable, therefor it's just "rheostat"

leopold
08-27-07, 12:43 PM
check this out:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6960024586942362779&q=vibrating&total=4070&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=5
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5700674619663483066&q=vibrating&total=4073&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

draqon
08-27-07, 12:47 PM
Resonance Effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPcJbb5Qfj0

IamI
08-27-07, 02:24 PM
that is what I am talking about folks now I wonder how did tey do that, was just really sound? and about the "oscillator" i searched it up and dont quite get it is it electronic and can it produce the same effects as the last video showed?

thanx

leopold
08-27-07, 02:28 PM
that is what I am talking about folks now I wonder how did tey do that, was just really sound? and about the "oscillator" i searched it up and dont quite get it is it electronic and can it produce the same effects as the last video showed?

thanx
check out post 8.
mount the motor to the underside of the plate of steel. use the rheostat to vary the frequency.

cosmictraveler
08-27-07, 02:39 PM
Hello!

I have heard of three kinds of generating frequencies, by sound, by electricity and by mehacnicle way. but I have no idea how they look how to be used, so my question is simply when you re talking about generate vibration frequencies, How do I produce them? is there an another way BTW?

hope you understand :)

IamI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGg0ATfoBgo&mode=related&search=

IamI
08-27-07, 04:33 PM
ok doki, lets make it easy, basicaly I want to vibrate aluminum foil at a 18khz for example, right?

so first question that comes now? what method of frequency generating is the to be used?
sound, oscillator, H.frequ. current, radio?
and how would i do?
I am googling a lot right now but it is very hard without a help of intelligent peoble like you:D
sorry so much but I am a bit confused peoble

as in the videos they use sound to resonate ..


thanx alot
kalle

spidergoat
08-27-07, 05:25 PM
The device you are looking for is called a tonoscope.

For the photographs on this site, a small (0.2 g) magnet was fixed to the plate. An oscillating magnetic field (provided by a coil connected to an audio amplifier and a signal generator) is used to provide an oscillating force whose frequency is tuned to the resonance of the mode.

I looked around, but no one seems to sell them.

cosmictraveler
08-27-07, 05:34 PM
The device you are looking for is called a tonoscope.

For the photographs on this site, a small (0.2 g) magnet was fixed to the plate. An oscillating magnetic field (provided by a coil connected to an audio amplifier and a signal generator) is used to provide an oscillating force whose frequency is tuned to the resonance of the mode.

I looked around, but no one seems to sell them.


No results found for tonoscope.
Did you mean teinoscope (in dictionary) or Monoscope (in encyclopedia)?

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spidergoat
08-27-07, 06:17 PM
No, I spelled it correctly.
http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id12.html

leopold
08-27-07, 07:52 PM
you might want to check this out:
Among Chladni´s successes was finding a way to make visible what sound waves generate. With the help of a violin bow which he drew perpendicularly across the edge of flat plates covered with sand, he produced those patterns and shapes which today go by the term Chladni figures.
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sci_cymatics.htm

googling on chladni figures i ran across this:
Figure 1 shows square and circular plates that are being held in the center. The type of pattern created depends generally on the point or points of support and their location; the point where the bow is touched to the plate; the internal linkfrequency of the vibration which is influenced by the speed the bow is moved; and the properties of the plate itself, such as thickness, volume density, elastic strength, etc.
http://fusionanomaly.net/ernstchladni.html

spidergoat
08-27-07, 08:13 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Jenny_(cymatics)

Klippymitch
08-27-07, 11:26 PM
Electricity = on/off cycles in one second.

Read-Only
08-27-07, 11:59 PM
Electricity = on/off cycles in one second.

Just so no one misunderstands, if you're talking about 60Hz AC power, it actually cycles twice each second. :)

leopold
08-28-07, 12:11 AM
Just so no one misunderstands, if you're talking about 60Hz AC power, it actually cycles twice each second. :)
well if you want to be technical about it, it (60 Hz) actually cycles 60 times a second.

/read-only slaps his forehead and says DOH, brainfreeze !

Read-Only
08-28-07, 05:25 AM
well if you want to be technical about it, it (60 Hz) actually cycles 60 times a second.

/read-only slaps his forehead and says DOH, brainfreeze !

Whoops! Yeah, that's the kind of thing I do sometimes trying to post late at night when I should be in bed.

IamI
08-28-07, 05:47 AM
okey,

the reason why i am asking how to produce high frequency vibration to mass is that alot, yes alot is being talked about that sound can cancel gravity and you sure heard about the monks that lifted several large stones 250 meter up in the sky.. most is talked about sound but sounds travels at differnt speeds throug air, waterm etc.. but as someone mentioned about the radio frequencies.. DId you mean that radio frequency resonant an object or is it only th soudn that can
Thanx alot

kalle

Read-Only
08-28-07, 06:42 AM
okey,

the reason why i am asking how to produce high frequency vibration to mass is that alot, yes alot is being talked about that sound can cancel gravity and you sure heard about the monks that lifted several large stones 250 meter up in the sky.. most is talked about sound but sounds travels at differnt speeds throug air, waterm etc.. but as someone mentioned about the radio frequencies.. DId you mean that radio frequency resonant an object or is it only th soudn that can
Thanx alot

kalle

Uh-oh, here we go... Downhill all the way.

IamI
08-28-07, 08:03 AM
heheh what is it mate?
if you mean i sound crazy.. what can i say:shrug:.. be open minded:)

down hill all teh way?:D

Read-Only
08-28-07, 08:14 AM
heheh what is it mate?
if you mean i sound crazy.. what can i say.. be open minded:)

down hill all teh way?:D

Being open-minded is fine as long as it doesn't mean holes in the head. And when someone starts talking about overcoming gravity with sound waves or something shady like an obscure group of people lifting large stones high in the air, well, I tend to believe it's the latter rather than the former.

On this planet, we lift heavy objects high into the air through the use of cranes, rocket motors and the like. Not through the use of sound or any other kind of waves. Perhaps you live in a distant galaxy where the laws of physics are somehow different? ;)

Oli
08-28-07, 08:18 AM
Huuge thread on stone lifting (or not) in the pseudoscience section...

Read-Only
08-28-07, 08:35 AM
Huuge thread on stone lifting (or not) in the pseudoscience section...

And even without ESP I can predict that this one will soon join it there. :D

leopold
08-28-07, 12:02 PM
okey,

the reason why i am asking how to produce high frequency vibration to mass is that alot, yes alot is being talked about that sound can cancel gravity
yes, there is some talk about this in one of the links that was given in this thread.

and you sure heard about the monks that lifted several large stones 250 meter up in the sky..
actually no, i haven't. how exactly did they "lift" these large stones anyway?

most is talked about sound but sounds travels at differnt speeds throug air, waterm etc..
correct, the speed of sound is not a constant.

but as someone mentioned about the radio frequencies.. DId you mean that radio frequency resonant an object or is it only th soudn that can
Thanx alot

kalle
radio frequency (RF) and sound are two entirely different things.
sound is transmitted by compression waves, RF is transmitted by an electromagnetic field (EMF). the two have similar qualities but they are not the same thing.

IamI
08-29-07, 01:07 AM
yes, there is some talk about this in one of the links that was given in this thread.

actually no, i haven't. how exactly did they "lift" these large stones anyway?

correct, the speed of sound is not a constant.

radio frequency (RF) and sound are two entirely different things.
sound is transmitted by compression waves, RF is transmitted by an electromagnetic field (EMF). the two have similar qualities but they are not the same thing.

thanx so the RF frequencies can not resonate materials or it does thoug it is differnt then the sound waves?


and I searched for the thread about lifting stone in pseudosience but didnt find it?

about teh monks, just google
ww . crystalinks . com / levitationtibet . html

Klippymitch
08-29-07, 09:11 PM
thanx so the RF frequencies can not resonate materials or it does thoug it is differnt then the sound waves?


and I searched for the thread about lifting stone in pseudosience but didnt find it?

about teh monks, just google
ww . crystalinks . com / levitationtibet . html

Speakers create sound waves. You could mess with them for awhile and crank up the hertz to a really high level. As well have the sound waves pass through a coil in a tube that is powered by inductance the same way as a Tesla coil. Inside the tube = coil wrapped 60,000 turns and on the outside the tube wrap it 8 times or something like that. High voltage/ Low amperage and high on off cycle.

Basically just build a Tesla coil and put a speaker at the bottom running at the same hertz.

Something crazy is bound to happen. It probably wont lift anythjing but it would be cool just to see what would happen.

IamI
08-31-07, 03:40 PM
telsa colis=death!

kiding hehe but bloddy dangerous..

I found however this frequency generator:

just google
"waveshaper frequency instrument"

may i ask if it generates sound frequencies or not? I read about it but didnt know how it produce frequency?

thanx alot
kalle

Rife Machine
06-04-10, 03:20 PM
Rife Digital can produce these Sound frequencies in an electronic wave form, and frequencies are produced through electronic contacts. Once these contacts are connected to a bulb or tube, then frequencies are transformed into visible light waves. The basic principles of the Rife Machine. These Rife Machines are the electro-therapy devices used for healing. Rifedigital.com