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G. F. Schleebenhorst
08-02-07, 04:15 PM
Oh how I wish americans would stop saying that.

darksidZz
08-02-07, 04:17 PM
:c~

Orleander
08-02-07, 04:21 PM
I hate axsed and i-dear far worse.

G. F. Schleebenhorst
08-02-07, 04:45 PM
and i-dear far worse.

Why, who says that?

spidergoat
08-02-07, 04:47 PM
I wish Brits would stop saying football when they mean soccer.

G. F. Schleebenhorst
08-02-07, 04:49 PM
I wish americans would stop referring to american football as football when it's actually rugby for pussies.

Orleander
08-02-07, 04:52 PM
Why, who says that?

what? well, who says re-diculous?
People say i-dear all the time. I think I heard a british guy on a dancing show on TV last, but I've heard lots and lots of others say it.

G. F. Schleebenhorst
08-02-07, 04:54 PM
Heard it on the simpsons earlier....and a million times before that.

90% of the time I see it written by americans I see it spelled with an "e" as well.

Oh and yes, i-dear is stupid too....but english people can't tell the difference between R and, well, no R. Some say "drorring" instead of "drawing". Half the time they don't even bother to pronounce Rs at all.

spidergoat
08-02-07, 04:56 PM
I wish americans would stop referring to american football as football when it's actually rugby for pussies.

touché

Orleander
08-02-07, 04:57 PM
Heard it on the simpsons earlier....and a million times before that.

90% of the time I see it written by americans I see it spelled with an "e" as well.

Oh and yes, i-dear is stupid too....but english people can't tell the difference between R and, well, no R. Some say "drorring" instead of "drawing". Half the time they don't even bother to pronounce Rs at all.

But there is no r in idea...why add one?

G. F. Schleebenhorst
08-02-07, 04:59 PM
Don't ask me, I'm not english.

lucifers angel
08-02-07, 05:21 PM
i hate it when people purposly dont promounce computer right they say "puwer"

MacGyver1968
08-02-07, 05:30 PM
I hate it when people make generalizations about an entire country, based on a few individuals. :)

G. F. Schleebenhorst
08-02-07, 05:50 PM
I hate it when people spell generalisations incorrectly with a "z" after spelling "improvisational" with an "s".

lucifers angel
08-02-07, 05:51 PM
i hate it when people bitch over nothing

mikenostic
08-02-07, 05:53 PM
I wish americans would stop referring to american football as football when it's actually rugby for pussies.

I'd really like to see how long a pro rugby player would last in the NFL...even with pads on. :rolleyes:

G. F. Schleebenhorst
08-02-07, 05:55 PM
Have you ever watched a game of rugby? People get their ears torn off playing that game. It's brutal stuff.

They also learn how to tackle properly so people don't get their backs broken.

shorty_37
08-02-07, 05:55 PM
I hate this one................... when something is cool I am hearing
Ohhhhhh thats sick.

EmptyForceOfChi
08-02-07, 06:20 PM
I wish americans would stop referring to american football as football when it's actually rugby for pussies.

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

superstring01
08-02-07, 07:48 PM
I hate this one................... when something is cool I am hearing
Ohhhhhh thats sick.

Or when the same ditsy bitches say, "Oh my GAWD, Shut Up!" when they get excited. I can never get used to having some bimbo tell me to "Shut Up" and not get a bit insulted by it.

Oh... I also say "Pewter" instead of "Computer"... quite often.

I also say, "Oy-veh" a lot... and I'm as much of a gentile as they come.

~String

shorty_37
08-02-07, 08:01 PM
Or when the same ditsy bitches say, "Oh my GAWD, Shut Up!" when they get excited. Oh... I also say "Pewter" instead


lol do they still say that? I thought that was an old one.

Seems nobody is their real name anymore either. No matter how
short the name is it seems like it is almost cut down to 2 letters lol

when I picked names for my kids I always thought what would they be
called for short...... like Jason for instance I thought ok it won't be cut down
but all his friends call him........Jas (Jace)

Captain Kremmen
08-02-07, 08:11 PM
I find it annoying when people pronounce broccoli as "brockly"

Captain Kremmen
08-02-07, 08:17 PM
Have you ever watched a game of rugby? People get their ears torn off playing that game. It's brutal stuff.

They also learn how to tackle properly so people don't get their backs broken.
You're right.
People in rugby don't stay pretty long.
No ears, busted noses, missing teeth.
You never see them sponsoring anything except beer.

superstring01
08-02-07, 08:17 PM
I find it annoying when people pronounce broccoli as "brockly"

How do you pronounce the second "o" in "broccoli" without sounding like some pompous jackass? I'm from Ohio, and we'd have a laugh fest if somebody said, "broccOli". I can barely get away with saying "soda" here, in the land where "pop" dominates.

~String

Captain Kremmen
08-02-07, 08:24 PM
How do you pronounce the second "o" in "broccoli" without sounding like some pompous jackass? I'm from Ohio, and we'd have a laugh fest if somebody said, "broccOli". I can barely get away with saying "soda" here, in the land where "pop" dominates.

~String


People that can't pronounce it properly (and proply is another example)
should not be allowed to buy it, and be given cabbage instead.

CuriousBioGirl
08-02-07, 08:26 PM
When people say 'LOL' or 'JK' outloud. :bugeye:

shorty_37
08-02-07, 09:04 PM
How do you pronounce the second "o" in "broccoli" without sounding like some pompous jackass? I'm from Ohio, and we'd have a laugh fest if somebody said, "broccOli". I can barely get away with saying "soda" here, in the land where "pop" dominates.

~String

Ohhhhh I haven't heard the word soda....its been so long I can't remember.
It's always been known as pop here.

Orleander
08-02-07, 09:07 PM
I say broccOli. I also call all pop coke. I want an orange coke.

shorty_37
08-02-07, 09:09 PM
I say broccOli. I also call all pop coke. I want an orange coke.

coke is coke......pepsi is pepsi.....orange crush is crush.....
7 up is 7up and so on......all POP how can it all be called coke? lol

Orleander
08-02-07, 09:16 PM
orange coke, grape coke, lemon lime coke, and cola. oh and root beer. Root beer is always root beer.

shorty_37
08-02-07, 09:18 PM
lol

MacGyver1968
08-02-07, 11:03 PM
I hate it when people spell generalisations incorrectly with a "z" after spelling "improvisational" with an "s".

touche...bro...touche...you totally caught me spelling things in the American way with a "z"...sorry about that....'cause I try to spell things proper...unless I'm trying to over-exaggerate my Texas accent. :)

superstring01
08-02-07, 11:57 PM
orange coke, grape coke, lemon lime coke, and cola. oh and root beer. Root beer is always root beer.

You must be from the South. Everybody down there calls all carbonated beverages "Coke." I'm from Ohio-- but I CHOSE to call carbonated beverages "soda." I just hate the word "pop."

~String

Nikelodeon
08-03-07, 03:01 AM
Soft drink.

Captain Kremmen
08-03-07, 03:34 AM
Soft drink.

Soft drink and Carbonated Beverage. Both names without a soul at all.


I do like the word Soda, it conjures up old fashioned gleaming ice-cream parlours.
The Fonz, I'm sure, would ask for a soda.
Whereas pop is just pop.
The Fonz would not ask for pop.

Lord Hillyer
08-03-07, 03:53 AM
This thread bites.

Captain Kremmen
08-03-07, 07:58 AM
The Fonz.
As soon as you mention the Fonz, everyone thinks they are the Fonz, but most people are more like Richie Cunningham and Potsie.

Nikelodeon
08-03-07, 08:00 AM
Wouldnt The Fonz ask for a Beer?

Captain Kremmen
08-03-07, 08:01 AM
Wouldnt The Fonz ask for a Beer?

No. It was set largely in a cafe.This was the 50s.

superstring01
08-03-07, 09:18 AM
Wouldnt The Fonz ask for a Beer?

The Fonz is not some cool whitebread American boy-- he's a kosher Jew from upper Manhattan (not that there's anything wrong with that). But you don't get more "non" All American than that.

~String

mikenostic
08-03-07, 09:42 AM
Have you ever watched a game of rugby? People get their ears torn off playing that game. It's brutal stuff.

They also learn how to tackle properly so people don't get their backs broken.
Yes I have, and I'm not taking away from the brutality of rugby. Rugby is a great sport. I have a lot of respect for it, but to call rugby, American football for pussies is BULLSHIT!
There are quite a few issues with football players getting concussions (with pads on mind you). Football players also play with broken fingers, hands, arms. Players, like Steve McNair, have played with broken sternums.
And regardless of whether or not players get their ears torn off or not, I'd still like to see how long a pro rugby player lasts in the NFL.
Wearing no pads isn't a sign of toughness, it's a sign of stupidity; much like a stupid person will ride a motorcycle w/o a helmet. :bugeye:
NHL players wear helmets and pads, and they still get teeth knocked out.

Captain Kremmen
08-03-07, 09:48 AM
The Fonz is not some cool whitebread American boy-- he's a kosher Jew from upper Manhattan (not that there's anything wrong with that). But you don't get more "non" All American than that.

~String

Henry Winkler, the actor who played the Fonz, was Jewish.
The Fonz was Italian American.

MacGyver1968
08-03-07, 10:04 AM
You must be from the South. Everybody down there calls all carbonated beverages "Coke."
~String


"Hey..you wanna coke?"
"sure"
"what kind?"
"Dr. Pepper" :D

lucifers angel
08-03-07, 10:17 AM
Yes I have, and I'm not taking away from the brutality of rugby. Rugby is a great sport. I have a lot of respect for it, but to call rugby, American football for pussies is BULLSHIT!
There are quite a few issues with football players getting concussions (with pads on mind you). Football players also play with broken fingers, hands, arms. Players, like Steve McNair, have played with broken sternums.
And regardless of whether or not players get their ears torn off or not, I'd still like to see how long a pro rugby player lasts in the NFL.
Wearing no pads isn't a sign of toughness, it's a sign of stupidity; much like a stupid person will ride a motorcycle w/o a helmet. :bugeye:
NHL players wear helmets and pads, and they still get teeth knocked out.

who said rugby is american football for pussies, try saying that to a welsh person!! i hate it when people say that!! they obviously have never played rugby properly, and the welsh kick ass!!

http://www.asplash.com/images/showimage.php?id=52

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/248500/248744MSur_w.jpg

Enmos
08-03-07, 10:21 AM
who said rugby is american football for pussies, try saying that to a welsh person!! i hate it when people say that!! they obviously have never played rugby properly, and the welsh kick ass!!

http://www.asplash.com/images/showimage.php?id=52

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/248500/248744MSur_w.jpg

That was the other way around.. lol
It was said that American football is rugby for pussies.

lucifers angel
08-03-07, 10:24 AM
That was the other way around.. lol
It was said that American football is rugby for pussies.

oh i am sorry i misread (again)

mikenostic
08-03-07, 11:15 AM
who said rugby is american football for pussies, try saying that to a welsh person!! i hate it when people say that!! they obviously have never played rugby properly, and the welsh kick ass!!

http://www.asplash.com/images/showimage.php?id=52

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/248500/248744MSur_w.jpg

Sorry. I had that backwards. My bad. But you know what I meant.
I have a lot of respect for rugby. It's a great sport, but I hate when people try to say American football is 'sissy' because we wear pads; what a cop out. :rolleyes:

G. F. Schleebenhorst
08-03-07, 01:52 PM
What about having to stop every 20 seconds?

Maybe it's the 3 tons of kevlar they all wear.

superstring01
08-03-07, 02:05 PM
What about having to stop every 20 seconds?

Maybe it's the 3 tons of kevlar they all wear.

I've played both Rugby and Football... and, although I am generally not a fan of Football (the US variety-- except when OSU plays), I will say for cetain, that it is hardly a sport for pussies. It's based far more upon the "brute" force of a person thrusting and upon the tactics of the coach + quarterback, whereas Rugby is based upon physical endurance and, to a bit, the relationships of the team with its members-- the game moves more swiftly and requires a lot of "active" synnergy between the players... whereas in US Football, where synnergy is required (of course), it's more based upon the individaul player's desire to do what he's told and Rubgy requies a player to develop almost a calculative instinct to anticipate the moves of his teammates.

~String

mikenostic
08-03-07, 02:17 PM
What about having to stop every 20 seconds?
You have my full agreement on that one. That pisses me off to no end because if you're watching it on TV, it usually results in a commercial. :mad:
But blame that on the game itself, not the tenacity of the players.

Maybe it's the 3 tons of kevlar they all wear.
Let's see rugby players try to play wearing '3 tons of kevlar'.

And are there any 6 foot 6, 300+ pound players playing rugby?

whereas in US Football, where synnergy is required (of course), it's more based upon the individaul player's desire to do what he's told and Rubgy requies a player to develop almost a calculative instinct to anticipate the moves of his teammates.
I guess you could say that rugby is much more fluid (like ice hockey) and American football is more precise, calculated and technical?

superstring01
08-03-07, 02:32 PM
I guess you could say that rugby is much more fluid (like ice hockey) and American football is more precise, calculated and technical?

Exaxtamentey!

~String

Absane
08-04-07, 10:35 AM
Moved to linguistics at the request of SAM and Fraggle Rocker.

Fraggle Rocker
08-04-07, 06:12 PM
Oh how I wish americans would stop saying that. [re-diculous]I confess that I do find myself saying that. Not like "congradjoolations;" I had to start listening to people before I heard it a few times.I hate axsed and i-dear far worse."Ax" for "ask" is called metathesis, a common phenomenon in English and many other languages. An awkward combination of phonemes is unconsciously "corrected" to one that is perceived as fitting the phonetic structure of the language "more properly." English speech is full of words ending in the KS sound so it feels "normal." Now that our economy and industry have made "task" and "disk" everyday words, I suspect that "ask" will become renormalized.

As for "idear," that is that strange Boston dialect. It is not just non-rhotic (final R is silent). It is--well I don't know what the term is but I'll call it anti-rhotic. They add R where it shouldn't be. I remember a Bostonian trying to learn Spanish, he kept saying "lar casar." I don't know how or why "idear" came into wider use, of all the Bostonian pronunciations. Perhaps it was through the stand-up comic profession, the same way all Americans have learned to say "New Jizey" as a joke. Some words simply sound funny and comedians have the ear to pick them out and spread them.

Surely you've heard about the guy from North Carolina who was pulled over for speeding in Oregon. The cop asked him, "Have you got any I.D.?" The driver said, "Any idee 'bout whut?"I hate it when people spell generalisations incorrectly with a "z" after spelling "improvisational" with an "s"."Generalization" is the correct spelling in American English. You must know that we have changed all -ise suffixes to -ize; it was probably Noah Webster who performed that "standardization" for us. You have the anomaly backwards: what's "incorrect" on this side is that we break our own rule and spell "improvise" with an S. I wonder if anyone knows where that came from?

British English is hardly free of inconsistencies. Why is the first syllable in "schedule" pronounced as SHE, when you pronounce other words like "schematic" with a SKE, just like us? And why is the second syllable pronounced JOOL, when you would be expected to say DYOOL?I find it annoying when people pronounce broccoli as "brockly"Since the accent is on the first syllable, the second O becomes a schwa. That makes it a prime candidate for elision. The British actually do more elision than we do, they pronounce words like "oratory" as "orat'ry."How do you pronounce the second "o" in "broccoli" without sounding like some pompous jackass?It's not that hard. As a carnivore, I don't use the word often enough to feel the need to speed it up. I say BROK-uh-lee.orange coke, grape coke, lemon lime coke, and cola. oh and root beer. Root beer is always root beer.I'm a city boy. "Coke" is cocaine.

iceaura
08-04-07, 06:13 PM
Rugby is a contact sport, football is a collision sport, soccer is a girl's sport.

The pads, in football, are like the gloves, in boxing - they allow one to hit very hard, without breaking one's own bones. They are for hitting - look at their distribution.

"Fluid" just means "simplified" - maybe "diffused". The strategy and tactics of football are the most complex of any sport.

The "r" in "idear" is natural - in college I roomed with a New Yorker, and by the end of a term I was sliding into it. It happens as you sort of close your mouth heading for a subsequent vowel - it's actually easier to say "idear of" than "idea of": try repeating them six times quickly.

Orleander
08-04-07, 06:38 PM
My husband says que-pon and I say coo-pon (coupon). He also says bedroom suit instead of sweet (suite). Chase lounge instead of shays (chaise) lounge. And his latest one if gair-en-sheed wages for garnished wages. I thought it was just him til I heard his sister talk.
Its just a family thing I guess.

phonetic
08-04-07, 08:15 PM
I'd agree with iceaura, having played both sports.

The reason behind American Football just seems as though it's to get people crippled. That somebody gets a touchdown is by the way - the real fun is in charging at other people, launching yourself through the air and trying to injure them as badly as possible.

Rugby seems more honourable. No pads and most of the time your object isn't to waste the opposite team members.

Saying that, every sport seems more fun, as a young male, with the added macho-ness of violence. Football (soccer) included. We used to play 'full contact' football at school, much to the PE teachers' dismay. Flying and sliding tackles were the favourites. There's nothing quite like a studded boot sliding down your shin. It was part WWF and part shaolin soccer. Good times.

Fraggle Rocker
08-04-07, 09:31 PM
My husband says que-pon and I say coo-pon (coupon).Koo-pon is preferred and is closer to the original word borrowed from French. However, kyoo-pon is also correct, at least in America. My Illinois family taught me kyoo-pon.He also says bedroom suit instead of sweet (suite).That's just wrong. :)Chase lounge instead of shays (chaise) lounge.Well... We Americans have mangled it so bad it's pointless to discuss which way is the baddest. The phrase is chaise longue, "long chair"! It's an example of metathesis in the written language to "correct" that second word so it became "lounge," something familiar and obviously "right."

Of course the history of the phrase just gets stoopider the further you track it. Chaise is a bastardized deformation of chaire--bastardized by the French, not by us. Toward the end of the 19th century Paris became a cosmopolis for adventurous people from all over the world. (They called them Bohemians for the odd reason that since they had to come from somewhere they must all have been from Bohemia, or the Czech Republic as we call it today.) Most Europeans can pronounce the trilled Spanish-style R of southern France, whose original population were the Celtic Gauls. But the original population of northern France were the Germanic Franks, and they brought the gargled German R into the Latin that became Parisian French. Only Germans and Scandinavians can pronounce it. The rest of the travelers mangled it and made it into kind of a Z sound. Soon it became the height of sophistication for Parisians to mimic the mispronunciation of their own language by foreigners. (Geeze is that ever not at all like today's Parisians, eh?) So instead of Je vais a Paris pour acheter une chaire, they said, Je vais a Pazis pour acheter une chaise. The chaire longue was popularized at that time, so it got stuck with the faux-foreign pronunciation, and when we borrowed the furniture the name came with it. So don't worry about how anybody pronounces chaise longue. Absolutely everyone is both misspelling it and mispronouncing at least one of the two words!And his latest one is gair-en-sheed wages for garnished wages.That's another example of metathesis. "Garansheed" sounds like "guaranteed," so it fits a familiar pattern. He's probably heard people in the payroll office talk about "garnishees," the people whose checks get garnished, and that just confuses him further. How does he pronounce it when you sprinkle salt and pepper on a pot roast? :)I thought it was just him til I heard his sister talk. Its just a family thing I guess.We talk about dialects but there is such a thing as an idiolect, which is the specific language of a single person. I don't know any word for the language of a family, but obviously that level of linguistic community also exists.

My family puts a short A in apricot, a short OO in roof, a short E in envelope, and the nut is a PEE-kon. We do something else that I haven't been able to compare very often with others. We pronounce "rider" and "writer" differently. The I in "rider" is a broad I, a diphthong formed on the A in "father." The I in "writer" is very narrow, a diphthong formed on the U in "up." It's very similar to the IJ sound in Dutch and probably harkens back to the dialect of New Amsterdam. Brits pronounce the two I's the same but they pronounce the D and T differently, as D and T. In America both consonants are reduced to a flap (the Spanish R) so we can't tell the words apart that way. Do you other Americans all say "writer" and "rider" with different vowels like we do?

Captain Kremmen
08-05-07, 12:12 AM
Rugby is a contact sport, football is a collision sport, soccer is a girl's sport.

The pads, in football, are like the gloves, in boxing - they allow one to hit very hard, without breaking one's own bones. They are for hitting - look at their distribution.



Compared with boxing, they are all girl's sports.

G. F. Schleebenhorst
08-11-07, 04:28 PM
You have the anomaly backwards: what's "incorrect" on this side is that we break our own rule and spell "improvise" with an S. I wonder if anyone knows where that came from?

That's....exactly what I was saying.

Jeff 152
08-11-07, 05:15 PM
Compared with boxing, they are all girl's sports.


Compared with MMA, they are all girl's sports