Psychology: Why do people resist to changes?

[TruthSeeker]

Because when someone's conception of reality is challenged, the person lose the ground which bases his/her life in.

New ideas destroies the basic conceptions of your beliefs making you ungrounded in relation to your net of beliefs necessary to give you a reason for your existance and for the world that you see as you see it...

When someone gives you a new idea you instantly, consciently or not, become in a position of defensive and try to prove your ideas right.

ANY change in your life brings you a discomfort. It's like getting out of home, when you are an young adult. You feel umcomfortable because everything changes. But that's the basic thing in Life: Changes.

Everything will always change in your life no matter what you do. Those who are open-minded are in peace because they accept the changes. Those who are not usually manifests the lack of peace by attacking those who have the new ideas.

Those who have new ideas always shake the others, who prefer to stay in their circle of comfort instead of exploring the unknown.

PS: Why don't we have a Psychology Forum...?:confused:

Love,
Nelson

[bubbl3]

yup... and the longer he/she has that conception of reality, the more that person feels discomfortable to change their ideas....

[kmguru]

Have you ever tried to convert an IBM PC (WinTel) into a Mac PC?

That is what happens to the human brain. It gets hardwired as time passes. Very difficult to self-rewire - but doable.

[Xev]

Nelson, you are beginning to sound like Gene - you are educated stupid!- Ray (http://timecube.com/)! :p

Boy, we Skeptics don't mind exploring the unknown. Exploration is one of the real pleasures of life.

We like to keep our minds open - but not so open that our brains fall out.

And, I like change. Yes, somtimes change sucks, but stagnation is death!

[James R]

Ever noticed how Believers resist the change to skeptical thinking?

:)

[Avatar]

I don't think skepticism is a new idea. It only shows tht to believers timeflow has no effect:D

[TruthSeeker]

James R,

Ever noticed how Believers resist the change to skeptical thinking?

Honestly James R...
It's really hard to staying believing if you pray and don't get what you prayed for...

But when the circumstances completly change only to realize what you prayed for...!!!!

IT'S FANTASTIC!! AND HARD TO STOP BELIEVING!!!

If you see with your own eyes that this works...
It's hard to stop believing... ;)

Love,
Nelson

[Avatar]

But when the circumstances completly change only to realize what you prayed for you realise tht the theory of probability might be true:D
or to put it my way: human mind is stronger thn any god, and if properly used can create anything if enough time is given (this is just my crazy theory;))
Cheers!

[TruthSeeker]

It's not a crazy theory Avatar... :)

In my opinion, probability is a waste of time. We study all those calculations and what is most likely to happen usually DON'T.

I wonder why... isn't strange? Why what is most likely to happen usually don't happen?? :confused: :confused:

Besides that... sometimes we pray for something, but the circumstances are almost impossible (or even impossible...) and it work out!! So, probability don't work here Avatar... ;)

Love,
Nelson

[Avatar]

Seeker,
it works if you include such a thing as luck
Cheers!

[TruthSeeker]

Avatar,

Do you really believe in luck? Luck is pretty much like Divine Providence...!!! :D:D:D

Love,
Nelson

[Avatar]

nothing divine here Seeker, just natural:D

[TruthSeeker]

So you believe in luchk and probability...
I guess one idea finishes the other... :D:D:D

[Avatar]

luck is a probability in the theory of probability;) (atleast according to my theory:D), Seeker
Cheers!

[TruthSeeker]

Ok... this discussion is stupid... :D:D:D
Better come back to the central one: How changes influece the lifes of people. ;)

Love,
Nelson

[Avatar]

How changes influece the lifes of people.
well, changes change something. they change lives of people. The influence of them is measured by the importance of the changes to the particular person or his surroundings. Changes can be good, bad or non-influental (death of some Hazi Mushi in Kazahstan won't affect me) and one needs to adopt to those changes to survive or progress

what else you want to hear? smth more particular would be appreciated

P.S. I'm bored.
cheers!

[TruthSeeker]

Well... I already said everything...
So... if there's anyone if a different view... then...
That's it... :)

Love,
Nelson

[Tyler]

I've changed my philosophy numerous times.

I changed my philosophy when I first read Greek though. I changed it again after reading Neitzsche. I changed it again when I started reading modern political thought.

All these times I have made some major changes in my personal philosophy.

Never had a problem with change.

[Ana]

a paradigm shift almost like um, sorta,yeah?

Anyway, dude....NOTHING TICKS ME OFF MORE THAN OLD FOLKS WHO STILL REGARD PSYCHOLOGY AS not being part of the REAL science community. As if psychology was full of QUACKS of some sort. I understand where they are coming from but they have to understand that psychology is evolving...now psychologists are focusing on testable hypotheses and involve statistics in their research. It's becoming more and more of an exact science. Now Freud is more of an old uncle everyone is amuzed by but hardly anyone wants to claim or mention in the presence of mixed company. hehehe

Okay I'm through whining.

[Xev]

Ana:
NOTHING TICKS ME OFF MORE THAN OLD FOLKS WHO STILL REGARD PSYCHOLOGY AS not being part of the REAL science community. As if psychology was full of QUACKS of some sort.

It is. Marriage counselers, family counselers, Jungians, Freudians, yadda yadda.

Many are quacks.

Psychiatry, on the other end, is part of the real science community.

Tyler:

Indeed. I've started reading Camus' theory of the absurd....it reinforces some of my previous beliefs, but it is a bit of a paradigm shift.

Hmm, Nelson mis-representing his opponents? :eek:

[Stryder]

I tend to think of it like this:

There are Psychologists and then there are Psychiatric Doctors.

A Psychologist, will listen to your thoughts, ask you questions and postulate reasoning into the reasons of why you are, and how to help you the way you want to be.

A Psychiatric Doctor, is someone that looks at the state of you and then perscribes you some dodgy medicine because it keeps them in a job.

Quite simply the mind can't be treated with a Drug or drugs, the reason I say this is because the problem might just be one neural pattern or pathway, and a drug is just so General.

I mean general in the sense that it doesn't select the area thats the problem but floods the whole system trying to deal with one spot. (Most of the time, it's easy for a Psychiatric Doctor to wrongly perscribe drugs)

Make sure you know the difference if you ever have to deal with them, if your being perscribed medicine by them, theres a good chance their a quack.

There is also the point that they tend not to keep up with the Scientific community, and are quite happy to come out of their Medival torture chamber dressed in black, looking for people to inquisition. (Okay I had to add comedy)

[TruthSeeker]

Tyler,

Never had a problem with change.

hehehe...
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Xev,

Hmm, Nelson mis-representing his opponents?

What do you mean by that...? :bugeye:


Honestly and Respectly...
Psychiatry is stupid, is garbage.
You go there, the guy listen to you, don't say absolutly nothing, you pay a fortune and at the end you have to come back (of course, because it's a long term treatment...) and have to pay more and IT DOESN'T SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM!!

That's why my mom and I started to looking for Pscychology. In Junguian Psychology, for example, the patient AND the doctor INTERACTS. In this interaction, the problem gain a new view. Because the doctor has the potential to look for the problem from OUTSIDE, the big picture, the doctor is able to give insights to the patient about what the REAL problem is and point out the subconscient patterns the patient have and ultimatly changing it into a better subconscient pattern. :)

Love,
Nelson

[goofyfish]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
That's why my mom and I started to looking for PscychologyThe reason for your mental meanderings is now
slightly more understandable. Thank-you for sharing.

[TruthSeeker]

The reason for your mental meanderings is now slightly more understandable. Thank-you for sharing.

What are you saying...?

If you are saying what I'm thinking you are saying better stop saying it...!!

Love my Mom... :)

Love,
Nelson

[kmguru]

The word "Psy" means trial and error, lubricated by snake oil or the modern version of it.... :D

[goofyfish]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
Love my Mom... I'm certain that you do.

[(Q)]

You go there, the guy listen to you, don't say absolutly nothing, you pay a fortune and at the end you have to come back (of course, because it's a long term treatment...) and have to pay more and IT DOESN'T SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM!!

Your Mom suspected there was a serious problem and sought professional councelling for you. The doctor kept quiet about the problem (due to its severity) but admitted long term treatment is necessary.

That's why my mom and I started to looking for Pscychology.

To get a second opinion?

the doctor is able to give insights to the patient about what the REAL problem is and point out the subconscient patterns the patient have and ultimatly changing it into a better subconscient pattern.

The second doctor explained the problem to you and that made you feel better. Hence your opinion of the second doctor supersedes your opionion of the first.

So what exactly is the nature of this problem that it requires long term treatment? How severe is the problem? What are the symptoms? Do you hear voices? Migraines? Paranoia? Has the doctor prescribed medication?

[Cactus Jack]

As for the original topic of the discussion I suggest reading the book: Playing the Future, by Douglas Rushkoff. In it Rushkoff discusses how human beings now are adapting to withstand constant change and discontinuety. This adaption evadent in newer members of society has scared older generations. Hence grandma can't understand a music video.

However on the subject of Phsycology, I imagine it works for some people and doesn't for others.

Myself I turn to my multiple personalities for guidance :)

[TruthSeeker]

(Q),

I was describing the difference between Psychiatry and Psychology. You understood it very well. It was a very childish attack... :rolleyes:

Anyways...

I should write my thesis on Compulsive Rational Thinking... :cool: :D

Love,
Nelson

[James R]

Hmm...compulsive rational thinking. That would be nice.

[Tyler]

"hehehe...
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!"

Live I've said, I changed my philosophies many times over the last year and a half or so. You're laughing suggests that you don't think I can change because I haven't agreed with things you say. Perhaps that just indicates you're wrong.

[TruthSeeker]

You don't agree with:

"YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF"

...? :bugeye: :bugeye:

Love,
Nelson

[Avatar]

fck the neighbours. I don't care about thm, they don't care about me (and why should they). why to love??? most unlogical Seeker:confused:

[Xev]

"YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF"

Probably not. Bad 'lifestyle'.

Love means nothing in such a Hallmark card type world. Firstoff, people seek to manipulate and use. To love everyone unconditionally opens you to being harmed.

One might as well print a bulls-eye target on one's shirt.

Secondly, love is meaningless when applied to all

"I love you, John"
"I thought you loved Bob, Bill, Mark, James, Todd and William?"

Ummm, that didn't sound exactly as I meant. My point is, if you love everyone, no-one can be 'special'.

[TruthSeeker]

Don't you think I Love only Melissa?
Or you think I Love everyone?
Love Melissa specially don't close the door for me to Love others unconditionally nor Love unconditionally close the door for ME to Love and be Loved by other people. ;)

I'm also almost sure you think Love hurts, don't you...?

Love,
Nelson

[wet1]

People resist change because they establish comfort zones. Where they are resistance to change because it upsets what they are familiar with and have ways to deal with the problems that pop up without having to search for new methods. One thing that we all know is true (it's just a matter of degree) is that everything is subject to change and over time usually does.

You will hear about it often in the workplace with a whine. You know, "why we gotta do that?"

[Banshee]

While living your life, you will meet other people and life-styles. It changes your view on life every so often because of the experiences you get in life. That makes changes come along.

It is very tempting to try to hang on to your comfartable, daily life, not always possible, though. For instance, when you get fired, you have to look for another job. Only this will bring changes along. Sometimes you have to move for a job to a complete different surrounding, thus changes. You can resist as much as you want, changes belong to life and are necessarry to make your "window" through which you look, different and more broad.

As far as the phrase: Love Your Neighbour As Yourself, well, I guess it means: Don't Do To Another Person What You Don't Want To Be Done To Yourself.

As in being good to eachother and don't make life more difficult then it already is. People are so used to complain about all the "bad" things which are coming to them, that they feel the need to give another person a "bad" feeling, too. Matter of not having the capability to deal with experiences in life themselves. Argue, argue, argue, 'cause it feels so good.

Mayhaps it should be better if people just acknowledge for themselves that changes are a part of life...

[TruthSeeker]

Banshee,

Don't Do To Another Person What You Don't Want To Be Done To Yourself.

It's said in Matthew 7:1-2... ;)

wet1 and Banshee,

Well said! :)

Love,
Nelson

[Northwind]

Whoever Melissa is, I feel really sorry for her.

[Chagur]

Change ...

Different ...

How do I ...

Will I do something stupid?

FEAR!

If only we could accept 'newness' with a child's curiousity and joy.

Take care ;)

[TruthSeeker]

Northwind,

I should feel sorry for your boyfriend or girlfriend or whatever...
How can you be so insensible!?!?!?!?!?
:bugeye: :bugeye: :bugeye: :bugeye:

[Agent51]

People refuse changes, because I guess they are used to their normal lifestyle, and they just like who they are.
Of Course it also depends on the problem like Suicide, and Death, but they have free choice also.
I guess freedom is not everywhere we look now a days...........

[Banshee]

...Excuse me Northwind, I don't want to interfere or be rude to you, but why do you say now, that you feel sorry for Melissa?

I'm just curious, nothing more, no offense please...