Obese Men with Heart Disease Live Longer

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  1. sandy Banned Banned

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    Among nearly 6,900 male veterans assessed for symptoms of heart disease, those who were obese were less likely to die over the next 7.5 years compared with normal-weight men.

    So obesity now helps with heart disease? What will the AMA say? What will all the diet police say?

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  3. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    they can say whatever they want. the fact is that obese people cannot work as hard, nor enjoy life as well as us healthy people.
     
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  5. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    You' have the right to remain fat and blubberous.
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Everyone thinks they are Winston Churchill
     
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    They think, therefore they are.
     
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  10. sandy Banned Banned

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    I know most Americans and much of the rest of the world are overweight. I don't really care since I am not. I just think all the hoopla about how dangerous excess weight is-- is being debunked frequently. This was just another example.
     
  11. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    yeah excess wieight is bad for you, but some people cannot physicaly excersise, and we shouldnt force people to do what we want them to do.
     
  12. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Even if it means that the society pays extra, horrendous medical bills for those fatties? Should the fatties force the rest of us to pay for what the fatties want to do to themselves?

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  13. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    why not we pay for smokers!! and drinkers!! and for people who have illnesses because they did harm to themselves!! what's the differance?

    the thing is with you, you think people are just abd and not good!
     
  14. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    Universal health care for the lose. People should be paying for their own medical treatment: that way, I don't lose money dealing with fat fucks and their operations.
     
  15. Just_Not_There Do I Look Like I Care?! Registered Senior Member

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    In the UK smokers and drinkers generate FAR more money in taxes than they cost from related diseases on the NHS
     
  16. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    and so do fat people, what point were you trying to make?
     
  17. Just_Not_There Do I Look Like I Care?! Registered Senior Member

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    Bollocks. There are no significant taxes on food in the UK

    edit: To clarify, I didn't mean income taxes, I meant taxes on the actual products. I thought that was obvious
     
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  18. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    yes we do pay tax on our food, of course we do!! and there is no need to swear at me, mr einstein
     
  19. Just_Not_There Do I Look Like I Care?! Registered Senior Member

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    This doesn't take into account ages at all. An obese guy diagnosed with symptoms of heart disease is likely to much younger than a healthy guy with the same problem. A 30 yr old guy with heart troubles is likely to live longer than a 70 yr old not because he is fat, but because he is young
     
  20. sandy Banned Banned

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    I don't think there's any proof anywhere. I have read stuff that said fat people don't cost as much insurance-wise because many don't go to the doctors.

    It's true that smokers and drinkers cost a lot. So do pregnant women. So do people with illness: genetic, self-induced, environmentally induced, behaviorally-induced, or whatever...

    I also don't think there's one perfect answer. I'm never sick. Have never cost anyone a dime. And am paying insane premiums for insanely high-deductible insurance which I will never use.

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  21. Just_Not_There Do I Look Like I Care?! Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah but obesity costs more money than them paying tax on food provides. As opposed to smokers who contribute 10 times what they cost the NHS. At least smokers pay their way...
     
  22. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    then stop paying the insurance and see what happens, i bet you, if you stopped you will fall ill.
     
  23. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    and what do you think tax on food counts has!! buttons??

    the only thing we in UK do not pay tax on is, childrens clothes!!
     

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