Graduates and students are often extolled as being our great hope for the future - "our best and brightest." Boy are we in deep doo-doo. At a local fair a few years ago, there were all kinds of people cooking and baking and working to make things and foods. It was lovely. Then I came upon five chubby little boys from our nearby university. They had assorted candy bars sitting on a table at outrageous prices. These diabetes-inducing treats were ostensibly being sold to benefit the United (sic) Nations. Lovely. School was in session. I strode over. "So, you're selling candy bars for the United Nations," I said. "What is the best thing the UN has done in the past two years? Five little deer in headlights went blank. One finally squeaked out, "They stop wars?" "Sorry," I said. "But the UN troops did NOTHING in Bosnia as Serbs rode into town and took all the Muslim men away to murder them by machine gun." Another suggested, "They vaccinate kids." "That's good," I replied. "Vaccinating kids is good. Now how much does a vaccination cost? Mere pennies. And what is the UN's annual budget?" Five deer in headlights. One piped up, "100 million dollars?" I thundered back, "The US pays a billion dollars a year in dues." It was an estimate, but far closer than his guess. A billion dollars and still it's not enough. Then one of them said something quite inappropriate and insulting to me. I cautioned him as I put my hand on his shoulder. It was as soft as a marshmallow. Soft minds in soft bodies. They were, of course, liberals.
Maybe what he said was insulting, but it may well have been appropriate. If I treated Christians or Boy Scouts selling candy in such a manner, I would be accused of a hate crime. Someone out looking for a problem can easily find one in the modern world; as such, taking out your frustrations on people you perceive as weaker than yourself isn't really something to brag about. As to the best and brightest: don't believe it; we say it as a slogan, much like we say about the members of our armed services. Murder, torture, mayhem. Like the one guy who shot the Iraqi mother to death because "she was in the way". It took the wind out of the whole "human shields" indictment against the enemy. Yeah, that's the work of our best and brightest. I knew plenty of dim bulbs in college; they came in all political stripes. But of those that really annoyed me, I didn't have to go out of my way to run afoul of them. Apply your same logic to paying taxes: what, aside from an abstract obligation, do you owe your government? Be not proud. Unless, of course, it's all you've got to be proud of.
tiassa The Boy Scouts, and Christian Organizations do not sell candy for political purposes, or in support of political organizations, and why do I have a picture of you doing just that to Christians and Boy Scouts, for hate of them and their organizations?
they may not sell candies but they do support political purposes, organizations and entire countries (Israel).
The Boy Scouts sell candy in support of a hate organization. I prefer to simply not buy their candy. I have no need to "stride over", "thunder", or lay hands on the Boy Scouts. It's easy enough to not go out of my way to antagonize them. Money given to Christian organizations supports many causes, indeed. But it's easier to simply pass by without a word, or thank and dismiss them from my front door, than it is to go out of my way to harass them about the evils of their organization, supremacist beliefs, and so on. Really, if I was to stride over, thunder at someone, and then put hands to them when they didn't like my attitude, what would you think? Especially when I had the option of walking right on by without caring? I mean, maybe if I'm in a bad mood and some poor bastard tries to block my path while pressing a tract into my hand, but at that point, I don't have to stride anywhere and seek a forum to thunder.
dixonmassey, I believe that is every Americans right, don't you? to support the political party and views of your choice, we don't give up our rights because we belong to a church do we? or do you have a different Constitution that you live under? or do you even know what the rights enumerated in the Constitution are? I do think it is mentioned some were , that there is a right to freedom of religion.
tiassa That is news to me, I am a Eagle Scout, and I never even heard of the Boy Scouts supporting Hate Organizations, you have proof of such? or are you just showing your bigotry. ps: From your posts here I find that hard to believe.
"hate" Is Your Word, Not Mine You have a picture of someone else "doing just that for hate of them" because of your own hateful prejudice. Never once did I mention, much less feel any hatred for these out of shape little boys who didn't think for a second about what they were doing.
I was talking about organizations. You think that church sermons encouraging faithfulls to support some right wing nuts regardless is soooo much better than 5 liberal students encouraged (no doubts) by someone to sell HFCS shit for UN? BTW, personally, I dislike (intensely) liberal leaning people as well as their convictions, but defenitely for the different reasons than you. Some famous told that Americans have all kinds of the written rights and prudency not to excercise them.
You mean, as a Boy Scout or Eagle Scout, you've never supported the organization? The Boy Scouts are a hate organization. Well, some of us do seek to transcend the evils we perceive around us. And you should recognize that what we conclude from one another's posts is subject to certain consideration. After all, I had never gathered from your posts that you were so staunch a hatemonger, yet here you are defending a hate organization and basing that defense on your membership in it. Yikes! Or, perhaps, we might take a more reasonable view of things? Either suits me; it is easier for me to regard you according to the standards you show, but it is more respectful to stuff those standards in the trash. Think about it this way: If anyone has a hard time imagining opposition to a socio-political majority that does not involve direct antagonism or harassment, machismo or assault, that's their problem, not mine. Not all of us have a need to stomp, thunder, and abuse in order to make our point. Don't get me wrong: thunder is sometimes fun, but don't pretend for a minute that responding to someone's direct and specific provocation is the equivalent to going out looking for a problem. From your posts, I have a hard time believing you can't tell those conditions apart. Why now? Is it because your own pet hate organization, the Boy Scouts, got dragged into it?
Spoken like a true leftist. Anything your fellow leftists say is "appropriate" or "true." Anything spoken against your dogma is "a hate crime." Got it. I wasn't "out looking for a problem." You're spinning again. I merely noticed the profound difference between everyone else selling food, and working hard in the process, and these fat little weenies, sitting on their porcine duffs. And for what? So Kofi Anan can turn his back on the Rwandan Genocide, where 700,000 blacks are butchered? Your defense of the socialist cesspool of corruption that is the "United (sic) Nations" isn't really something to brag about. There were five of them, genius. Five to one, and they were woefully outnumbered. Why? Because they were liberals. Only a liberal would lump all armed forces together with the few who commited truly heinous acts. This is akin to lumping all teachers together with the Unabomber, Theodore Kaczynski. But being a liberal, as you so clearly are, means you never have to think, never have to admit you were wrong, never have to acknowledge your lack of decency and fair play, and above all, it means you never have to say you're sorry. Are all Democrats Ku Klux Klansmen, like Democrat Senator Robert Byrd? Are all Democrats rapists, like Bill "loathing the military" Clinton? Did all Democrats drown women and then slink away, while drunk, as Ted Kennedy did? According to your hateful generalizations, such characterizations would be appropriate. Conservatives don't generalize quite as maliciously as you do, however. And those terrorists murdering civilians and soldiers deeply enjoy your remarks.
A "Love Organization" is one like the National Organization for Women, which promotes and supports partial birth abortions, and lesbianism. Beauty, eh? I hope that Tiassa either marries a feller like Bill "loathing the military" Clinton, or else "doesn't need a man." Either way, we all win.
Hey, here is an idea! The US could leave the UN thus saving 1 billion per year, and in return there is nobody who can veto the resolutions against Israel!
Would you send a heterosexual man camping with a group of seventeen year old girls (one of which was your daughter) for the weekend? Men, not just homosexuals, can not be trusted alone with children (or teenagers) they are sexually interested in. You might as well leave a dog alone with a juicy steak. So the BoyScouts don't allow men who are sexually interested in boys to be scout leaders. For this they are a hate organization? I suppose you'd also consider every religion that frowns upon homosexuality as a "hate group"?
The BSA also drums out any scouts who admit to being gay. This is their right as a private organization. And it is my right to not support them in any way. No child of mine will ever have anything to do with them.
That's fine. And I'll not let my children have anything to do with PETA, MOVEON.ORG, or the ACLU. But I wouldn't characterize any of them as hate groups. Just groups I don't agree with. Describing the BoyScouts as a hate group is equivalent to calling Bush Hitler.
What a strange story. I have never seen anyone selling candy for the UN. For specific charitable operations run by it or with it, maybe (not sure) but for the UN itself? I have never seen anyone of reasonable age selling candy for any organization, who knew nothing about what it had been up to recently. But I suppose the whole scene is possible. As far as what the US pays - the self-righteousness would be more in order if the the US did actually pay its dues. The regular dues, btw, not including special operations like Bosnia, are closer to 100 million than 1 billion. The monies actually paid are even less. As far as benefits from the UN, disarming Saddam Hussein of all his WMDs at small cost in lives and without war was pretty impressive. Contrast the US efforts along those lines, and it's apparent the US is not in the same league with the UN on matters of international diplomacy.
When i consider the sorts of people the majority of people in this world have to fear on a daily basis, and who it might be knocking at their door. I'm going to choose happily living in the nation where I might have to face an evil boyscout knocking at my door...... Oh Boyscouts.....SCARY!!!! I think your Reynalds made hat is slipping.
