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I had an idea (because I'm so bored) and I thought I might as well give it a shot.
How about this thread migrates, the moderators move it from one forum to another every three days or so? In each forum people must continue the thread in the manner appropriate for that particular forum. For example, if it is in the Physics & Maths forum and people discuss the Lorentz transformations, then it moves to Pseudoscience and people start applying the Lorentz to the hollow moon theory. An example.
Possibly a good topic of discussion to start such a thread might be "What do you think of such a thread? Can anything even vaguely useful come of it?"
goofyfish
04-02-02, 10:52 AM
I think it is an interesting idea, but implementing it might be a problem, as a few of the moderators apparently have lost interest or have heavy obligations (school, job, whatever) that are preventing them from visiting on a regular basis. Some are here every regularly, some every few weeks - I cannot remember the last time I saw Oxygen or Dexter in the forums. Porfiry could bounce the thread around, but he is tied up with finals at present.
Peace.
Porfiry
04-02-02, 04:19 PM
Sure, I'll handle this -- sounds interesting. Someone better come up with a topic to start things off.
<B>This thread is currently in FREE THOUGHTS</B>
Stryder
04-02-02, 04:55 PM
How about "The meaning of Life!" I'm sure all the forum would contribute heavily
goofyfish
04-02-02, 05:40 PM
Life is independence, intellectual curiosity, improving the social groups within your sphere of influence. Life is the love of your soulmate.
Peace.
Asguard
04-02-02, 09:34 PM
The meanin of life is Love and service. We all have a duty to protect and serve every other person on earth
There's no meaning save what we give it. We are not put on earth for a purpose, we aren't born to do great deeds, and we aren't here for a reason.
We are here because of the fusion of two gametes. That being said, the meaning we give life is our own.
I choose to explore and to serve. I choose to fulfill my own desires, so long as they do not cause harm. I choose to balance service and desire.
Asguard
04-03-02, 08:42 PM
I can not think of one problem in this world which ISN'T caused by hated and self intrests. If everyone focused on Loving Everyone and put everone else before themselves then this world would be perfect.
LOVE AND SERVICE
Asguard
04-06-02, 01:23 AM
hey when we migrating and whats with the red?
TruthSeeker
04-06-02, 01:49 AM
Posted by Asguard:
The meanin of life is Love and service. We all have a duty to protect and serve every other person on earth
VERY GOOD!!! :):):)
Love,
Nelson
TruthSeeker
04-06-02, 01:51 AM
Also, root your Love and strenght it by first Loving yourself... :)
But NEVER in a selfish way...
Love,
Nelson
scilosopher
04-06-02, 01:22 PM
Life means that if you have an energy gradient and the right conditions self organizing bits of order coalesce and elaborate on the simple initial themes. The mere act of copying with error is all that is necessary after the initial creation of an ordered entity.
In my life I take this inherent observation to mean that I should consider the implications of order in the world as a source of meaning in my personal life. Just as everyone is different, the path of order they have arisen from gives their life a different meaning.
I Haven't figured out the exact meaning, but I think this observation is at the core of what life must mean in a broad sense ...
Life has no meaning other than establishing itself and then procreating to continue to fill the bounds of it's enviroment within the ability of the habitat to support it.
The meaning of life is to do whatever you want before you die.
...and so when does the thread migrate and where does it migrate to?
Asguard
04-06-02, 09:07 PM
Thats what im wondering:D
42
(Well, someone had to do it!)
scilosopher
04-08-02, 03:37 PM
Actually it was supposed to be 420, but DA was trying to keep it on the DL ...
Asguard
04-12-02, 10:40 PM
Gess this died, pitty it was a good idear.
TruthSeeker
04-12-02, 10:54 PM
The Meaning of Life is....
Share it with others. :)
Love,
Nelson
Porfiry
04-12-02, 11:15 PM
Whoops. Forgot to move this thread.
This thread is now in BIOLOGY & GENETICS
Reproduction. Plain old life cycles.
As per Loone:
BOINKING!!!
Shaggin' like a tree full of monkeys on nitrous oxide... :)
Life....shagging....death....life....shagging...de ath...
It's the circle of life!
The Lion King has a lot to answer for.
Asguard
04-13-02, 03:52 AM
If we are only looking at it biologicaly then yes life exists to spread itself
The life that currently exists does exist because it is the life which, through natural selection, is the life which existed ands continued to exist. I know I'm not explaining that very well at all. But it's hardwired into us. It's what we do. All other options died out.
EDIT: fixed spelling.
Deep, man, deep.
And, what with all the subliminal messages in Diseny films, I think the Lion King does have a lot to answer for. :D
"We are the universe trying to understand itself" -Carl Sagan
Life exists to fill it's niche as completely as possible. If "shagging" were less than fun or had no enjoyment to it a species would be less inclined to spend valuable energy participating in some activity that does not provide extension to life for the individual organisim. For a species a with long gestation time, that is a lot of care to perform, not to mention the life threating situtations that arise in the wild due to this activity.
There had to be some way to ensure that a species would want to continue this behavour to make sure that its survival continued. Otherwise it is an evolutary dead end. Which of itself is a solution but not the solution that mother nature intended. There could be a case made of the human species enjoing it more than say horses because we have been so sucessful in filling our own niche. It has been remarked on before that man will "mate" with anything that moves. Wnile it was meant as a joke there may be more truth to it than what first meets the eye.
Asguard
04-13-02, 10:39 AM
I have herd that there are only 2 species that have sex for recreation, Humans and dolphines
Monkeys go at it whenever. Dogs love to hump legs. I won't tell you what Australians do... :p
Porfiry
04-13-02, 05:02 PM
It's all about the <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0192860925/qid=1018731653/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_67_1/103-2394081-0075046">selfish gene</A>.
Eflex tha Vybe Scientist
04-13-02, 05:14 PM
IMO,
Life is what you make it.
As humans, we are blessed with the ability to think and to reason.
Therefore, as we collectively evolve, humanity will eventually learn to live in relative harmony.
TruthSeeker
04-13-02, 09:31 PM
Yes!
Reproduction!!! :)
Yuhooooooo!!!! :D:D:D:D
Love being alive...:D:D:D
Love,
Nelson
Asguard
04-14-02, 04:33 AM
I think my last post was wrong. I think it should have been we both are the only ones who have sex for PLEASURE not recreation
scilosopher
04-14-02, 03:54 PM
Personally I would distinguish between the meaning of life and the meaning you give to your own life.
Your own life is given meaning by your actions and how they are interpretted by others.
Life itself in a biological sense is about much more than reproduction. Evolution is a learning process where reproduction with error actually generates systems that can manipulate their local environment to supply them with energy and act as a waste sink. To do so they must in some way understand their environement. I think the Carl Sagan quote is very apt, but a bit abstract as stated.
Nervous systems allow organisms to learn even in the span of their life. Humans are the pinnacle of passing that understanding on to others. Of course in some way this could be considered reproduction as well, but I think there is more subtly to it.
If one contemplates this it seems that the propagation and elaboration of information for understanding the world is very core to what life itself consists of. What I'm not clear on is whether the manipulative aspects are pragmatic or core to what it is to be alive.
It is impossible not to affect the world around you so in some ways manipulation is unavoidable and it is necessary to make sure the effects are commensurate with survival (of the species at least). While the propagation of order seems "good" in some way the manipulation of the environment seems to have the potential for "evil" in it.
The question is whether the universe is organized such that selfishness is better than selflessness and whether evolution can recognize that fact.
TruthSeeker
04-15-02, 12:36 AM
Well... I'm still with Reproduction...
And hormone regulation, as you can see it...
Here...
I'M THE EVIDENCE
...
:D:D:D:D:D:D
My hormones have been a little bit crazy those last years... :D
;)
I guess biologically speaking... interaction with others (including other species) would be the major meaning of Life... not just reproduction... ;)
It's interesting to see that it is the exact meaning I've got for the Free Forums one... ;)
Love,
Nelson
For a more comprehensive article:
http://songweaver.com/info/bonobos.html
Take care ;)
Originally posted by DR EVYL
The Bonobo Chimpanzee is another species that have sex for recreation... in fact it's part of their social structure. They incorporate sex as part of almost everything they do, use multiple sexual positions, practice oral sex, have orgies.. pretty much everything humans do.
I'm a bonobo??? My parents never said anything...
Asguard
04-19-02, 03:40 AM
So where to next?:D
Asguard
04-25-02, 10:09 AM
I think its THAT TIME AGAIN:D
Its time to move out of the "Biology & Genetics" and on to greener pasturs for our dear thread:D
Porfiry
04-25-02, 04:55 PM
This thread is now in INTELLIGENCE & MACHINES.
Well, what say you? What of artificial life?
Asguard
04-25-02, 09:09 PM
Would you mind posting BEFORE you move the thread because once its moved it dosn't tell me that somethings posted in it
Thanks
Stryder
04-25-02, 09:52 PM
The meaning of life is a good one for AI discussion,
We find it difficult enough to contemplate our meaning of existance, but what of an intelligent machine. It knows it's existance is created by scientists and mathematical scholars but what existance would it try to accumillate as true after 1000's of processor cycles while being left on it's own to make sense of the universe without human interaction?
Whould a machine follow Asimov's rules of Robotiques?
With an appropriate level of intelligence an AI machine should become self-aware.
I would define life as anything that can operate autonomously, decide it’s own actions, find it’s own fuel, attempt to protect it’s own existence, and seek to survive as a primary goal.
That definition fits anything from insects to humans. And I think bacteria fits as well.
What is the meaning of life? The question is impossible to answer. The term ‘meaning’ implies that information is being communicated. And that implies that something intelligent is initiating the communication.
Since the most intelligent entity that we are aware of is human and since humans have yet to create life, at least no bio-life, then nothing on the planet can have attempted to communicate a message through the creation of life.
If life was created by some other being then we still cannot know what the message is since no such beings have come forward to announce themselves.
Either way if there is a meaning to life we cannot yet know what it is, and if life evolved and was never created by an intelligence then the question has no answer, or rather the answer is that there is no meaning.
Even if we create machine life would the question still make any sense? I don’t think so. Life is not about communication.
A better question might have been – what is the purpose of life.
Cris
I did ask that long time back,you replied saying that am i tired of my life?
;)...
hahahahahaa...
:p
bye!
Stryder,
Robo Sapiens are better off than us.hell,we dont even know who created us? or we just surfed in...;)
about the Robo Morailty,hell if robots are truely concious and are truely intelligent,then sometimes no,sometimes they will...
bye!
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