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BLASTOFF
03-30-02, 11:47 AM
Does anyone study another culture other from there own, or are you locked in just one culture,if you do which one is it, i myself study the oriential culture.

Azrael
03-31-02, 04:04 PM
I also enjoy learning about asian cultures as well as some middle eastern cultures. After I graduate from culinary school I hope to do some traveling and learn hands on. Imo what better way to learn and experience a culture and its people then to observe and try the food they eat.

wet1
04-01-02, 01:03 PM
Welcome to sciforums, Azrael.

Remember the old saying, "There is no place like home". It is nice to experience foreign cultures and some of the foods are really outstanding. Sooner or later it comes down to where home is though and home is where the heart is....

Azrael
04-01-02, 02:22 PM
Thank you Wet1, the saying is very true. A couple of years ago I spent some time in Texas with my uncle who lives there, after a few weeks even though I loved everything I saw, I began to miss home and all it associated connections.

kmguru
04-01-02, 05:47 PM
"Home Sweet Home"

In mid eighties, a bunch of us Americans spent a lot of time in China going back and forth. We could handle a maximum stay of 3 weeks before getting home sick. The first two trips were really great. After that it became just work.

Tyler
04-01-02, 08:27 PM
Home sickness, bah.

After Europe I can barely enjoy Canada. And I despise American culture. People are so much different in Europe. In certain parts, life is so much more real. And hte land is so much more beautiful in small towns in France, Switzerland, Belgium...

kmguru
04-01-02, 09:38 PM
So, then why dont you move to France for six months and see if you like there better than here. Then again, the cultures are not that different compared to east and west.....

ismu
04-01-02, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by BLASTOFF
Does anyone study another culture other from there own, or are you locked in just one culture,if you do which one is it, i myself study the oriential culture.

I live in oriental country for 30 years. What do you want to know?

Tyler
04-01-02, 10:05 PM
I was in france for quite a long period of time at one point!

Cris
04-01-02, 10:51 PM
Yes I'm studying the American culture. Being a Brit and having lived in California for the past 6 years, and commuted for 7 years before that, I feel I have learnt a great deal about Californians. Other Americans might be a different story.

But as to a choice - here in Silicon Valley - definitely. The best place in the world to live.

As for Europe - I felt at home in the Netherlands, and Switzerland had its moments. France - on the whole no - the French are too snobish. I could go on.

Everywhere has its pros and cons. Try them all.

Cris

Porfiry
04-01-02, 11:15 PM
After Europe I can barely enjoy Canada.

Perhaps that's because you're on the wrong side of Canada?
Anyways, I'm living with some French and German folk at the moment, and their very presence has convinced me that I would hate Europe.

Tyler
04-02-02, 08:44 AM
I found, if you speak French the French are great.
And I was in the south of France, not Paris (though I was there a short period of times, like a month).

BLASTOFF
04-02-02, 12:42 PM
Isum/ thank you i would like to know anything at all you can tell me about the oriential culture, i study martial art all forms, also chi kung, i eat the oriential food( not all the time it drives my wife and kids mad) i would love to visit the orient and try chi kung there way, i would love to see the temples and one day i will, i want to learn to talk there language, to fully understand the ways.

Adam
04-02-02, 12:51 PM
A chap I know has been obsessed with his romanticised notions of Asian culture for almost two decades. He had all sorts of ideas about China and Japan and such based on movies and books and his imagination. He's been into various Asian unarmed combat styles for omre than 15 years. He lost a few of his illusions when he whipped a Shaolin fighter in a half-contact tournament. Then he went to China to stay with a girlfriend's family. He came back with tuberculosis. He said it was the filthiest, most disgusting place he's ever seen. People pissing and spitting everywhere, in public. Little kids crapping on the footpath, nobody cleaning up after them. People spitting food out all over the place. Generally terrible health and hygiene standards. He has now, thankfully, realised that all his ideas about those cultures were romantic imaginary flights of fancy based on movies and books. Now, I am not saying "oriental" cultures are bad or worse than my own. Only that I am amazed at the strange notions people have about other cultures sometimes. They are often shocked and disappointed when confronted with the truth.

BLASTOFF
04-02-02, 01:07 PM
Adam/ i would not call australia a nice place from what i have heard about it, a very good friend of mine went there some time back, and he stayed for three months, he went on an outback tour i think he called it, on that tour he saw a shooting, at a small place on the way, a chap ran out of a shop after he had robbed it, the police where waiting and bang he was dead,he went back to were he was staying and he saw a mugging, he also heard about other things that had happened while he was there,so a bit of spit and shit should not put anyone off, it might not be all over the place, just in one spot, the things that he told me about where all over the place.

Adam
04-02-02, 01:27 PM
Absolutely right. Wouldn't want to believe all the tourism advertisements about this place.

BLASTOFF
04-02-02, 01:34 PM
ADAM/ FAIR ENOUGH MATE FAIR ENOUGH:p

kmguru
04-02-02, 01:50 PM
The bottom line is, if you are super rich, you can live anywhere on the planet and enjoy it. If you are poor, US and Canada is a better place due to healthcare. If you are in the middle to upper middle income bracket, again US and then perhaps Canada (Vancouver side) may be a good place to live.

I like my creature comfort in US but use the eastern philosophy in family and friend relationships - that works great for me. Sometime ago an Indian newspaper wrote:

"Heaven is when you have an American Salary, live in a British house, eat Chinese food and have an Indian Wife
Hell is when you have an American Wife; eat British Food; have a Chinese house and get an Indian Salary"

For me:
Salary: American definitely
House: Still American, depends where you live
Food: Choice - Chinese, Seafood, Indian, Thai ....
Spouse: A good relationship is essential ...

ismu
04-03-02, 05:56 AM
*by BLASTOFF*
Isum/ thank you i would like to know anything at all you can tell me about the oriential culture, i study martial art all forms, also chi kung, i eat the oriential food( not all the time it drives my wife and kids mad) i would love to visit the orient and try chi kung there way, i would love to see the temples and one day i will, i want to learn to talk there language, to fully understand the ways.

Well... it can be days telling about anything. But let me start on similar interest to yours.

First, note that Oriental country I mentioned is Indonesia, not China. In general, it has very similar culture with Malay, also has similar languages, similar foods, religions, and martial arts.
(Btw, there over 300 local languages in Indonesia. I won't dare to learn all of those :D).

There are lots kind of martial arts there. Pencak Silat used to call it's traditional martial arts. As Kung Fu in China there also lots type of Pencak Silat. Most of those practice Tenaga Dalam (English = inner force), similar with chi kung, at advance level of training. I was also learnt 2 types of Pencak Silat, Karate, and Telepathy. Yes, telepathy. There are also lots of psycho skills can be learned there, but rarely exposed. Things you've put in parapsychology forum here are very common in Indonesian traditional culture. Long distance attack similar with Voodoo, wich called Tenung doesn't seems so strange to them. Tenung experts (also healer) used to be called as Dukun. Dayak's Tenung, at Kalimantan, they said they can move your penis above front door, if you mess up with Dukun's daughter :D

Temples... yeah. There are many at Java and Bali. The biggest is Borobudur, i bet you knew.

Unfortunately those things seems slowly dissapear because of modernisation. What a waste :(

TruthSeeker
04-06-02, 01:41 AM
Cris,

But as to a choice - here in Silicon Valley - definitely. The best place in the world to live.

Nahhhh...

California is too big... and probably crowd and noisy and poluted...

I travel a good part of the Western Hemisphere...

The best places to live are...

Salzburg in Autria and
Nelson in Canada, where I'm living now... :D

Both cities are extremely beautiful. :)
They are calm... :)
A good air to breath... :)
Lots of Nature... :)
And have even the same technology big cities have...

Love,
Nelson

kmguru
04-06-02, 11:52 AM
Salzburg, Austria

That is definitely a great place to visit. My sister stayed there for a while. I missed my chance to visit. One of these days....

Warnings or Dangers: For Austria: don`t throw trash from out of your car. You will get a ticket from the police. Very expensive. Don`t swim in boxershortlike clothes in the pool. You will be removed immediately! Don`t go to Austria when you are afriad of heights. Drive carefully in the small tunnels and along the ravines. Also deer can jump in front of your car at night. Crime : There are no real dangers as Austria is reported one of the safest countries in all of Europe! Austria has a very low crime rate, especially in regard to violent crime.

Oh, the scenery looks the same as in Park City, Utah or Boulder, Colorado area. One of our friend lived in Conifer, Colorado - the scenery is awesome.

BLASTOFF
04-06-02, 12:47 PM
Isum thank you my friend, you have got my full attention on this pencak silat, mainly the telepathy part as i am confused about this long range attack can you explain more to me, am i right in thinking that you dont have to be close to cause injury, is this a fact have you seen it done or maybe you can do it, pray tell.

ismu
04-08-02, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by BLASTOFF
Isum thank you my friend,
urr... ismu....
your welcome.

you have got my full attention on this pencak silat, mainly the telepathy part as i am confused about this long range attack can you explain more to me, am i right in thinking that you dont have to be close to cause injury, is this a fact have you seen it done or maybe you can do it, pray tell.

Yup. you don't have to be close to cause injury. There are many way to do these.

Tenaga dalam is a form of energy (undefined by todays physics) wich we're can collect from suroundings. We can use this power to produce non-make-sense acts. Such as break stones by bare hand, or transfer it thru a roll of papper (or other soft stuffs), or air to the target. That's kin of usage of tenaga dalam by dirrect/indirect impact.

Tenaga dalam also can be used to magnify our natural telepathy (yes, naturally all human have telepathic skill) to make a mess with someones mind. We can make them 'see' or 'feel' or 'hear' what doesn't exists, or make them 'want' to do what they currently don't want to do.
(note: research on rabbits shows that some rabbits has changes of it's brain signal, exactly at the time her baby killed in another room).

Tenung (voodoo alike stuff), i don't know much how to do this. This supposed to be forbidden skill such as you call it 'black magic'. They belive using some help from such genie. Magically, Dukun can put solid materials such as nail or needle into victim stomach from hundreds kilometers distance. This nails can be detected by rontgen (x-ray), but can't be found on surgery. It can cause death.
Tenung which specially mess up mind, called pelet can make any girls crazily 'fall in love' to you, for temporary (several months), but then she hate you like hell when she conscious.
These kind of tenung can be found in Java.

Bali tenung expertise called as Leak. Leak believed can change himself into animal such as dog, snake or boar. They can kill other person by traumatic nightmares, and other skills you won't believe.

Usually each islands has their specific tenung(s). But again, they personally don't like to be exposed.

BLASTOFF
04-10-02, 02:12 PM
isum thanks again/ i practice chi kung, and i feel a force like feeling around my body when i do, but can not transfer it out, i can hurt people from close up as i am fast with my feet and hands, but what a way to be adle to defend your self, to stop someone from a distance, will keep trying, had a word with my old master he has told me storys of the same things only these are from china.

kmguru
04-10-02, 03:10 PM
Practice...and practice....

You want to be in a frame of mind when you control the reality of your existence. Under this ability, you will not be in a situation where you have to defend yourself in a crude physical way...that is the ultimate mastery of chi.

For example...
(Buddha did not have to defend himself against a physical threat - because he controlled the environment...you can learn that too...)

TruthSeeker
04-10-02, 03:25 PM
kmguru,

(Buddha did not have to defend himself against a physical threat - because he controlled the environment...you can learn that too...)

How...? :)

Love,
Nelson

kmguru
04-10-02, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by TruthSeeker
kmguru,


How...? :)



Practice...practice...

I usually teach that in my meditation class. The short version is the purification of mind, body and spirit and be one with the universe. Understanding your connection and supporting your role in the greater scheme...enhancing your mind to the cosmic awareness...

Actually it goes like body...mind...spirit...let the chi flow through you and around you...

ismu
04-11-02, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by BLASTOFF
isum thanks again/ i practice chi kung, and i feel a force like feeling around my body when i do, but can not transfer it out, i can hurt people from close up as i am fast with my feet and hands, but what a way to be adle to defend your self, to stop someone from a distance, will keep trying, had a word with my old master he has told me storys of the same things only these are from china.

ismu! not isum :D

About long distance attack, take a look at my posts here:

Learning Psychic Powers *free-4-all* (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4929&perpage=20&pagenumber=2)

...about brething technique in meditating. But perhaps you have different method. Chinese. Will you tell me aout it?

BLASTOFF
04-13-02, 10:49 AM
SORRY ISMU my mind was outside when i spelt isum and not ismu:)