Mysterious hexagon spotted above Saturn

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  1. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    This is pretty wierd:
    Check out the picture on the link:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...ogy.html?in_article_id=445117&in_page_id=1965
     
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  3. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    FASCINATING.................!

    6 sides....

    -MT
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I remember hearing about this years ago - probably from some other spacecraft photo. It was all the rage on nutty websites for a while. The guy who publicised the "Face on Mars" built an entire nutball physics theory around it.

    Having said that, it is interesting. Sounds like the jury is still out on what causes it.
     
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  7. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    I just saw this in the paper. WOW. How the hell could that naturally occur???
     
  8. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    It can't obviously, it's the product of alien mind rays, ...

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  9. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    It is quite possible that spherical harmonics causes it. You can get some weird effects with it, and this pattern on Saturn seems to show the hallmarks of spherical harmonics.
     
  10. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    there's nothing weird about that, hexagons exist everywhere in nature, like in snowflakes and honeycombs.
     
  11. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Well it's got to have something to do with the magnetic field of Saturn right?
     
  12. Singularity Banned Banned

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    The problem here is that no one knows why its here.

    Now, we never saw anything hexagonal with relation to magnets.

    BTW, isnt saturn a gaseous planet ?
     
  13. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    Sure, but nothing on this scale.
     
  14. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    yes we do: snowflakes, they consist of magnetic particles called protons, electrons and neutrons. magnets have only two poles, but because snowflakes consist of so many magnets, they usually create at least 6 branches, which makes the hexagonal form.

    http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3697/lkjlk2kn5.gif
     
  15. The Devil Inside Banned Banned

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    i have a hexagonal tattoo on my right forearm...saturn is just trying to copy me because im so cool.
     
  16. Singularity Banned Banned

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    So u mean to say that its a giant Snowflake ?
     
  17. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    no, but it's governed by the same power, magnetism. saturn is spherical, so it needs to create 12 concentrated magnetic lines, but because they're attracted to each other, they merge into only two, and they can't merge completely because of the repulsion between them.

    http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2125/saturnpolesyy7.gif
     
  18. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    That does sound plausable. Why do bees make hexagonal combs?

    Speaking of wax,

    Formation of bands and ridges on Europa by cyclic deformation: Insights from analogue wax experiments

    Department of Earth and Planetary Science, University of California, Berkeley, California, USA

    Abstract
    We perform a set of analogue wax experiments aimed at understanding the processes and conditions that lead to lineament formation on Europa. We heat a layer of wax from below and cool it from above so that a solid layer of wax forms above a molten layer, simulating either the liquid ocean or the actively convecting part of the ice shell. The solid layer of wax is then deformed periodically, simulating the cyclic strain caused by tides or by the satellite's nonsynchronous rotation. We find that the formation and morphology of lineaments that develop in the solid wax layer are governed by two main dimensionless parameters: Ψ, the ratio of the cooling timescale for the solid layer to the deformation timescale, and the dilation quotient γ, which is defined as the magnitude of net extension during one cycle of deformation divided by the amplitude of the periodic deformation. For Ψ ∼ 1, features form that qualitatively resemble bands and ridge complexes on Europa. We conclude that diurnal tides may be responsible for the formation of bands on Europa if the conducting layer of ice is a few hundred meters thick and is underlain by a convecting layer of ice. Features resembling double ridges can form if the ice shell has a thickness of a few kilometers and periodic strains are caused by Europa's nonsynchronous rotation.

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    Astrobiology August 2006 issue: Seasonal Changes and Ice Melt on Mars Explain Spider Formations on Martian Surface

    Cold Fingers

    Cracked ice. A jagged rectangular pattern sometimes forms when thin ice sheets floating on water collide (above, off the Antarctic coast), creating "fingers" that push over and under each other alternately. Physicists have now explained this phenomenon and demonstrated it with wax floating on water.

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    For more than half a century, scientists and polar explorers have puzzled over the origin of serrated zipper-like patterns that sometimes form when floating ice sheets collide.
     
  19. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    They just create lots of round holes which they pack together tight so that they become hexagonal, like bubbles in dishwater.
     
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    Take a look at the pictures on this Google image search. All of the pictures show hexagons. They are built that way a tiny bit at a time and not deformed into that shape after being built, so it's hexagons that the bees build, not circles.
     
  22. domesticated om Stickler for details Valued Senior Member

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    http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034

    Interesting.
    I guess it isn't necessarily something 'solid' that's causing it huh? I mean - all were looking at is a huge blob of gas right? It's probably the result of some sort of force (like a gravitational influence, or physical influence)
     
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