Democrats in Churches

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  1. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Why is it that Democrat candidates get to stump in churches (usually "Black" ones), while if a Repub even thinks about doing so, they are set upon by a horde of ACLU lawyers?
     
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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Please give an example.
     
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  5. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Republicans have more money that can be leeched off by lawyers.
     
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  7. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Clinton, Kerry, Edwards.
     
  8. UnGround Registered Member

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    Democrats are only playing to their constituents. A good number of them attend church regularly, now they are just using it to their political advantage, which the republicans have done for ages. As far as race goes, it might be because republicans rarely carry much of an African American vote.

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  9. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Democrats are allowed to, Repubs are not.
     
  10. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    I think you just made this up.
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    In order to retain tax-exempt status, a church cannot endorse a particular candidate, but candidates can speak at the church. Often churches will use language that indicates they support one candidate or another without being to explicit.
     
  12. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    And if Repub candidates speak in churches, the ACLU screams "separation of chruch and state!" But when Democrats speak in churches, not a wimper.
     
  13. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    That's because Democrats only speak in the Churches to convince the suckers into believing that they believe in God. Whereas, Republicans on the other hand, actually believe the tripe they vomit up.

    Well, just look at what happens: A Masonic Xian gets elected president and the next thing you know he’s sacrificing good Americans lives trying to convert ME Muslims into becoming good little Xians.


    So you obviously can see the ACLU is perfectly sensible in their decision,

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    PS: Could you provide a couple links proving your aligations. Or did you just make it all up?
    Thanks!
     
  14. Roman Banned Banned

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    Prove it.
     
  15. The Devil Inside Banned Banned

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    so, how do you classify bush saying that G-d told him to invade afghanistan and iraq? does this count as "stumping"?

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  16. Oniw17 ascetic, sage, diogenes, bum? Valued Senior Member

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    Aclu ?
     
  17. Ayodhya Registered Senior Member

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    American Civil Liberties Union.
    They fight for the rights of the people, but are essentially seen as liberal in the eyes of Americans - they fight for atheists, minorities, etc. which Christians don't enjoy.
     
  18. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Every campaign season, look to see who speaks in churches, and who doesn't, the Democrats are allowed to, and the Repubs are not, very strange, just watch.

    Kerry went to churches, Bush didn't, the same will happen in '08. Black churches are viewed as political arms of the Dems, where Dems can campaign, but Repubs can be merely introduced in churches, but not give speeches. The fix is in, great subject for a documentary.
     
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    mostly what they do is supply free legal counseling to people whose rights have been trampled on, and they will occassionally send a lawyer to defend one of those applicants, to the very end.
     
  20. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    The ACLU sided with a school district who told a child she couldn't write about Jesus when the essay was to be about the childrens' heros.
     
  21. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    Is this a new rule?
     
  22. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    The ACLU jumps on the Repubs, but not on the Democrats, why is this?
     
  23. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Recent ACLU involvement in religious liberty cases include:

    September 20, 2005: ACLU of New Jersey joins lawsuit supporting second-grader's right to sing "Awesome God" at a talent show.

    August 4, 2005: ACLU helps free a New Mexico street preacher from prison.

    May 25, 2005: ACLU sues Wisconsin prison on behalf of a Muslim woman who was forced to remove her headscarf in front of male guards and prisoners.

    February 2005: ACLU of Pennsylvania successfully defends the right of an African American Evangelical church to occupy a church building purchased in a predominantly white parish.

    December 22, 2004: ACLU of New Jersey successfully defends right of religious expression by jurors.

    November 20, 2004: ACLU of Nevada supports free speech rights of evangelists to preach on the sidewalks of the strip in Las Vegas.

    November 9, 2004: ACLU of Nevada defends a Mormon student who was suspended after wearing a T-shirt with a religious message to school.

    August 11, 2004: ACLU of Nebraska defends church facing eviction by the city of Lincoln.

    July 10, 2004: Indiana Civil Liberties Union defends the rights of a Baptist minister to preach his message on public streets.

    June 9, 2004: ACLU of Nebraska files a lawsuit on behalf of a Muslim woman barred from a public pool because she refused to wear a swimsuit.

    June 3, 2004: Under pressure from the ACLU of Virginia, officials agree not to prohibit baptisms on public property in Falmouth Waterside Park in Stafford County.

    May 11, 2004: After ACLU of Michigan intervened on behalf of a Christian Valedictorian, a public high school agrees to stop censoring religious yearbook entries.

    March 25, 2004: ACLU of Washington defends an Evangelical minister's right to preach on sidewalks.

    February 21, 2003: ACLU of Massachusetts defends students punished for distributing candy canes with religious messages.

    October 28, 2002: ACLU of Pennsylvania files discrimination lawsuit over denial of zoning permit for African American Baptist church.

    July 11, 2002: ACLU supports right of Iowa students to distribute Christian literature at school.

    April 17, 2002: In a victory for the Rev. Jerry Falwell and the ACLU of Virginia, a federal judge strikes down a provision of the Virginia Constitution that bans religious organizations from incorporating.

    January 18, 2002: ACLU defends Christian church's right to run "anti-Santa" ads in Boston subways.

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    Not only has IceAge not provided a single example of a Democrat being allowed to speak in a church when a Republican has not, he is mischaracterizing the work of the ACLU, which often fights for the rights of religious people.
     
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