has music ceased be be an art form and is now merely a popular form of entertainment

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  1. freaky nut

    freaky nut Registered Member

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    does music still retain a sense of 'art' (terrible word) in general (widely perceived)
     
    freaky nut, Nov 6, 2006
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  3. draqon

    draqon Banned Banned

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    yes
     
    draqon, Nov 6, 2006
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  5. freaky nut

    freaky nut Registered Member

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    in most popular music?
     
    freaky nut, Nov 6, 2006
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  7. outlandish

    outlandish smoki'n....... Registered Senior Member

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    what is art?
     
    outlandish, Nov 6, 2006
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  8. freaky nut

    freaky nut Registered Member

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    an impossible question, yet i answer it as i feel i best can: (ahem....)
    for me it is any work which reaches and connects with the essence of humanity throguh whatever medium an in whatever time regardless.
     
    freaky nut, Nov 6, 2006
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  9. outlandish

    outlandish smoki'n....... Registered Senior Member

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    so, can popular entertainment not connect with the essence of humanity?
     
    outlandish, Nov 6, 2006
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  10. G. F. Schleebenhorst

    G. F. Schleebenhorst England != UK Registered Senior Member

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    Art is non-pornographic porn.
     
    G. F. Schleebenhorst, Nov 6, 2006
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  11. draqon

    draqon Banned Banned

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    Art is pornographic anti-porn
     
    draqon, Nov 6, 2006
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  12. sderenzi

    sderenzi Banned Banned

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    You're right, music right now is kinda stupid. On a more interesting note think of how much it's changed, my opinion is that our brains are evolving making new sounds seem more interesting.
     
    sderenzi, Nov 6, 2006
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  13. draqon

    draqon Banned Banned

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    in future...500 years from now...Eminem will be classical music, just like Bach and Mozart now-days.
     
    draqon, Nov 6, 2006
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  14. Nickelodeon

    Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    Every generation hates the newer generations' music. E.g Rock and/or Roll.
     
    Nickelodeon, Nov 6, 2006
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  15. draqon

    draqon Banned Banned

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    i like New Age music...but I was born in 80's....
     
    draqon, Nov 6, 2006
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  16. lixluke

    lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Was music ever an art?
     
    lixluke, Nov 6, 2006
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  17. Fraggle Rocker

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    Of course popular music--or the popularized form of any art--is still art. If it's crafted to appeal to patrons of less sophisticated background who will be giving it less prominent attention then obviously it will have to be a little simpler.

    The explosion of electronic technology, coupled with a tremendous increase in leisure time, has turned all of the arts media into big business. It allows works of lesser talent, narrower appeal, shallower content, and less-than-universal references to find a market. That's just Econ 101A.

    We got spoiled in the 1960s and 70s during the Great Intellectual Revolution that we thought was going to last forever. People actually sat and listened to music. Half the population could play a guitar. We could tap our feet in 11/4 time and catch obscure literary allusions. Then just about the same time fundamentalist Christianity came back into vogue, disco and punk hit the airwaves.

    Oh well. There were still a few artists making real art back then. And there are still a few doing it today. King Crimson and Rush are still out there. I'll hold The Mars Volta up to them.

    As for the steadfast pop artists, they occasionally turn out a masterpiece. Green Day, Shakira, Eminem, Paula Cole... there's one gem on almost every one of their CDs.
     
    Fraggle Rocker, Nov 6, 2006
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  18. Chatha

    Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, once you look beyond the media laden materials. Ther are lots of undeground club houses out there unless you live in a city with a population less than 500,000.
     
    Chatha, Nov 7, 2006
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  19. redarmy11

    redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    Which music? Name a band or a singer or a song and I'll tell you whether it's art or total shit.

    I'm good at determining what's art and what's total shit.

    I do have to warn you that most of the things you put forward for my expert consideration will probably turn out to be total shit.
     
    redarmy11, Nov 7, 2006
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  20. freaky nut

    freaky nut Registered Member

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    if art is still art but an altered version to suit the shallower masses then can there there ever be a time in which art is allowed to progress even if it means becoming economically unviable?
     
    freaky nut, Nov 7, 2006
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  21. outlandish

    outlandish smoki'n....... Registered Senior Member

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    can art not be shit?
     
    outlandish, Nov 7, 2006
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  22. Nickelodeon

    Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    Shit can be art.
     
    Nickelodeon, Nov 7, 2006
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  23. tablariddim

    tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    And art can be shit.

    Music's primary function is to entertain, but no matter what type of music it is, it's an art to make it sound good and good is always subjective.
     
    tablariddim, Nov 7, 2006
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