I have heard that B12 helps with fatigue but as my levels are normal my GP won't prescribe them for me. Does anyone know where I could buy them from online? Im not sure if Im breaking the forum rules here!
If your levels of B12 are normal, then what the f**k makes you think you need more? I mean, you ain't a doctor, are you? Baron Max
have you ever heard of a VITAMIN? True, you have to pop then consistently but its one way of getting b12 if you want it and you don't need a prescription.
Alex, if your B12 levels are quite normal and you know this you are already getting enough of the stuff from your current diet - taking more isn't going to make the slightest bit of difference, you just end up pissing the excess out with no actual benefit to the exercise whatsoever. Fatigue is caused by many things: level of stress, lack of proper sleep. Popping pills isn't going to sort out your problem. Best case scenario you get to paper over the cracks and exacerbate your original problem beyond all previous recognition. Please, pause to consider here what it is you're asking.
Vitamin B12 injections for tiredness - Literature Review & Commentary by Alan R. Gaby M.D., Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients Twenty-eight individuals complaining of fatigue completed a double- blind crossover trial of vitamin B12 injections. Prior to the study, all subjects had normal levels of hemoglobin and vitamin B12. Hydroxocobalamin (5 mg intramuscularly, twice a week for 2 weeks) was followed by a 2-week washout period, and then a similar course of placebo injections. In about half of the participants, placebo injections were given first. Those who received placebo first had a significant response to vitamin B12 in terms of general well being (p = 0.006) and happiness (p = 0.032). Improvements in fatigue (p = 0.09) and appetite (p = 0.073) due to vitamin B12 were of borderline statistical significance. When vitamin B12 was given first, there was no difference in response to vitamin B12 and placebo, which suggests that the effects of this vitamin B12 regimen may have lasted at least 4 weeks. That possibility was consistent with the finding of a persistent elevation of vitamin B12 levels 4 weeks after the last injection was given (10 of 13 subjects had a serum level greater than 2,000 pg/ml). Comment: For more than 50 years, vitamin B12 has had a reputation as a "tonic" or a "feel good" vitamin. Most physicians believe that, unless a patient has a deficiency, vitamin B12 injections are nothing more than a placebo. This study, however, provides objective evidence that vitamin B12 injections do make some people feel better, even though they are not deficient. Pharmacological doses of vitamin B12 might be needed by some people to overcome an impaired vitamin B12-transport system (which is known to occur at least in rare cases) or a genetic defect in a vitamin B12-dependent enzyme. Another possibility is that large doses of vitamin B12 can help detoxify environmental toxins or abnormal metabolic waste products, analogous to the known capacity of this vitamin to detoxify sulfites. Vitamin B12 is cheap and safe, and a doctor should not be afraid to help his patients feel better, even when he does not know what is wrong with them. Only the injection works tablets are not proven. I'm also in the UK so its hard to get anything here unless your GP tells you you can have it.
http://www.positivehealthshop.com/itemdetl.php/itemprcd/BIO-25615 Then go down your local methadone centre and ask for some needles. I hold no responsibility for serious injury, death or loss of belongings. Danger le mort and all that jazz.
a simple blood test on it's own doesn't give the entire picture. The test for example doesn't indicate if there are any absorption problems, for this you need to have the vitB12 absorption schillings test.
mr. anon: it's curious how when it comes to vits/minerals/supplements in general we apply the "if you've got enough theres no need to intake anymore, the excess is useless" argument, yet when it comes to booze we don't take this line of thinking.
Just because pills weren't tested doesn't mean they won't work. Afterall injection is just a delivery system, if you want to go completely by the book on how that "experiment" was conducted, do you know which part of the body they injected into?, afterall it could make a difference in regards to how much of the body the blood passes through before it gets where might create a difference. One point though is if your metabolism has it's own particular balance, just injecting or taking pills isn't necessarily going to change it for the better, it will require positive thinking and healthy living trends.
Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! .... You'd have to ask a boozer about that one old man, me and the drink parted company on amiable terms and went our separate ways quite some many years ago I'm afraid - though, certainly you make a fine point, no argument in that. It's basically the belief that increasing ones intake of vitamins and minerals increases ones health - when one is in deficit in the first place, yes. An increased intake yields beneficial results. But when one already has ones necessary levels of the things already and seeks to increase ones levels of the same further - a: it really isn't doing anything at all beneficial and b: in some instances it can be highly detrimental to health. Too much iron in the blood, for example, is toxic and causes irreversible damage. Other, more exotic vitamins thought to have anti-oxidant and anti-cancer promoting properties in small quantities in excess have actually been shown to increase the rate of cancer growth and decrease the chances of cancer survival alarmingly. Eat healthy, eat well. Eat food. This is the way the body was designed to extract and absorb its vitamin and mineral content. Vitamin supplements are like the modern day version of Catholicism, in pill form. Whatever your problem, pop 25 mg of vitamin C four times a day and twelve hail Mary's with added wheatgerm extract, amen... At the end of the day, someone sneezes on you, you'll still catch a cold... Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
If your level is normal - then you have no problem..... quit thinking about B12 - stop boozing,smoking,overeating and start exercising - and you will get plenty of energy !!!!! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! There is plenty of B12 in red meat .....
