Violent computer games!

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  1. alexb123 The Amish web page is fast! Valued Senior Member

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    What are you views?

    Here is a comment that made me laugh in relation to this topic. It's taken from the BBC Website.

    I must admit, a while back when there was a case of someone killing a driver by dropping a brick from a motorway bridge, I did half expect someone to blame Tetris.
     
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  3. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    i play violent games....im not in prison for violent offences


    yet....
     
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  5. draqon Banned Banned

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    Vice City
     
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  7. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    Vice city is still too cartoony like lots of the older games. It still looks "fun".

    New games bring in more realism. Some will be photorealistc (if they are not already). Playing a game where you can shoot someone on the face and see thier skull explode in glorious detail would be hard to stomach, but someone will make it.
     
  8. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    I can still remember soldier of fortune where you could shoot of limbs and such...

    good clean fun...
     
  9. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    Anyone who would kill because of a game is fucked up to begin with. the game did not change him.
     
  10. draqon Banned Banned

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    what if the game was life? Is the person fucked up to begin with before he is born?
     
  11. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    Lets take life != game as a given for this thread. No philiosophy please.

    Hmm, fucked up to begin with? Possibly, but it can also be caused by bad parenting.
     
  12. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    It's very simple, Some idiot goes out and does something crazy. Without shadow od a doubt they are guilty of their crime and they have no criminal defense. The lawyer is obviously not going to win the case however the lawyer is obviously going to want to make money out of the case no matter if their client is guilty or not.

    This brings in the "Violence in games" into the court room, as if the lawyer can put the games the now guilty "Victim" as subconsciously preprogramming them to go out and do their frenzied attack, they can attempt to sue the games companies.

    For the lawyer this means pay, afterall their client being a villian won't be allowed any of the money made from a successful suit.
     
  13. flatcapman Registered Senior Member

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    Stryder that does not help with the fallout of people banning games and I play RPG'S Do I go around stabbing people?.NO.

    Game do not influence anyone thats a weak defense made by as you put it "Lawyers out for a quick buck" and more then likely Lawyers who have never played the games nor have picked up a games console thinking its kids entertainment.
    The parents of the Colombine massarce tried to sue Sony saying "Doom" was responsible for the killing at the school and they failed royaly since Sony more then likey got 10 to 20 young people trialed them on games and got them to do a psysc report and all checked out with no violent or ill will towards other people.
    How can a game with burry pixeled graphics teach someone how to shoot another person All that game gave was a migirane.

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  14. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    I laugh my ass off when I stab my own teammates in Counter-Strike and they die.

    It's a virtual world and I can tell the difference between when I am operating a computer with unrealistic graphics and real life.
     
  15. alexb123 The Amish web page is fast! Valued Senior Member

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    How many of you who claim they are not affected by violance in computer games also claim that advertisments do not affect them?

    Some times we are not aware of what affects us. And Okay we might not go out and look for violent confrontations, but people might be more likey to react violently if provoked etc.
     
  16. flatcapman Registered Senior Member

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    Then that make the person who provoked the reason not the computer games I play RPG'S to relive stress not the other way around.
    And there has not ever been a TV ad thats ever incouraged me to go out and buy something not even the Hungry Jacks adds.

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  17. alexb123 The Amish web page is fast! Valued Senior Member

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    It is very hard to find anyone who admits that they are affected by advertisments. But it is proved beyond any doubt that it affects people or millions would not be spent on it.
     
  18. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    I admit that I am sometimes affected by slick commercials. I know I am not immune to that.

    Axe effect? Against my better judgement I bought into it.
    FocusFactor? I bought into that..
    Beer commercials don't do anything for me. They don't make drinking look cool enough for me to be a regular drinker.
     
  19. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    Most ads seem to simply make you aware of brands. So when you think you need a product, like a car or a vacuum cleaner or something, you will think of that brand, and check it out. Of course there are those "info-mercials" too that go on about some amazing cleaner or something but they are way too cheesy to me.
     
  20. alexb123 The Amish web page is fast! Valued Senior Member

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    I remember I almost brought a Terry Chocolate Orange but as I was picking it up I had flashback to the advert and put it back down. It was close!
     
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    My wife and I are always attracted by the well-produced and entertaining tv commercials, and sometimes we remember them and talk about them long after. But we almost never notice or remember the product!

    It's always, "Hey, remember that neat ad with... well with the guy who was sitting in the cafe and the girl came up to him and then... well this other guy came up and handed them some food or something to drink or maybe it was a shampoo or a flat-screen TV or the keys to a car... and then they started flying through the clouds and meeting all these strange animals and there was a rainbow and they turned into birds... and then they ate the food or drove the car or whatever it was..."

    The Engergizer Bunny. That's one of the very few in which we noticed the product. We started taping them sixteen or seventeen years ago when they first came out but we ran out of willpower. I even have my own full-size Energizer Bunny, but unfortunately he's not automated.

    And I buy my batteries at Costco because they're dirt cheap and this year they're selling Duracell.

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  22. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    i was rather disappointed with SOF2 actually, i was hopnig to be able to tear people apart in more detail, yet what do i get? not even any bullet holes in the corpse!!!
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic#Examples

    Commonly cited examples of moral panics inspired by real or imagined phenomena include:

    Backmasking - fears that songs had hidden demonic messages when played backwards (1970s and 1980s).
    Bestiality, in Washington USA, in the wake of the 2005 Kenneth Pinyan affair, and in Missouri in the wake of the Jerry Springer Show episode 'I married a horse'.[2]
    AIDS
    Child pornography, especially on the Internet, in the 1990s and 2000s.
    Child sex offender
    The Columbine High School massacre has led many schools into perceived overreaction against imagined deviance among their pupils; see "zero tolerance".
    Cocaine addiction during the turn of the twentieth century.
    Comic books as a source of deviancy in the 1950s.
    Communism - see McCarthyism in the 1950s.
    The Cult debate of the 1970s.
    Culture War between liberal and conservative politics.
    Day care sex abuse in the 1980s.
    Dungeons & Dragons and other role-playing games, often accused of negative influences on children.
    Environmentalism - issues like pollution, ozone loss, global warming, sea level rise and damaging effects on humans and the ecosystem.
    Gel bracelet - The urban legend of boys breaking girls' bracelets for the purposes of causing the girl to "owe" the boy sexual favors according to a high school tradition.
    Genital Retraction Syndrome, a condition characterized by the belief that one's penis is shrinking or retracting into the body.
    Flag burning
    Heavy Metal rock music, including black metal and death metal genres.
    Hippies in the 1960s/70s.
    Homosexuality
    Immigration - esp. illegal aliens entering a country.
    Ku Klux Klan - historical insidious US hate group.
    Marijuana - and the legalization debate.
    LSD, Meth and other illegal drugs.
    Mods and Rockers caused moral outrage in Britain in the 1960s.
    Mugging In England 1972 a moral panic erupted about the fear of muggings.
    Neo-Nazis, and hate groups that express hatred against society.
    Pedophilia, Child sexual abuse - fear of "molesters" makes for sensational news - an ongoing tabloid newspaper campaign in the UK resulted in the (incorrectly) reported [1] assault and persecution of a paediatrician by an angry mob (which had confused the two words) in August 2000 [2], and in 2005 a man in Manchester, England was killed by knife after being mistakenly accused of child molestation by an insane man in the neighborhood. [3] [4]
    Rock 'n' Roll music - protest of violent or sexual lyrics from 1960s to 1980s.
    Pornography - greatly debated throughout the 20th century.
    Piracy - Trade associations such as the RIAA and MPAA, have attempted to stir a moral panic revolving around perceived piracy and copyright violations, targeting programs like Napster and BitTorrent and sites such as The Pirates Bay and AllOfMP3.com. Ads portraying Internet downloading as being equivalent to stealing a car are part of the campaign, for example.
    Race and racism
    Rap or hip-hop music.
    Rainbow parties
    Role-Playing Games
    Satanic ritual abuse
    Social networking sites, such as MySpace - fear of predators stalking teens. [3]
    Terrorism - esp. mass hysteria and concerns of national security, like after the 9/11 Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks on the U.S.
    Violence in video games
    The War on Christmas
    White slavery
    Witchcraft
     

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