Mind-Expanding Drugs and the Question of What Is REAL

I'm wondering what anyone's thoughts are on "mind-altering" drugs and what their implications about reality are...

 

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for instance, ive had experiences where i was in this eternal moment, but not as part of eternity - as someone glimpsing it for just a moment then getting turned away. this drove me crazy during the time i was experimenting with drugs. because timothy leary's whole "turn on, tune in, drop out" thing suggests that you can leave this reality and enter into a new one.

 

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If we die and we go somewhere, there's another reality out there.

If we don't, then our consicousness doesn't even exist. And since it doesn't exist and we perceive it, it follows that another reality is existent in which we do not perceive the reality we are currently perceving.

Either way, there's another reality....

And as you may be able to tell, I'm a bit stooooooned.... :m:

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I think we only understand a small fraction of the actual reality, drugs can probally speed up the information transfering in our brain or slow it down, or tune things up in our brain, giving the perception of a different reality when it is just that we notice more or less or focus on certain aspects of reality. What is reality? The world in a point of time?

 

Psychedelic drugs exaggerate whatever psychosis you already suffer from.

If you are in hurry to precipitate a crisis, they may be effective to achieve that.

 

If a drug user falls over and dies in a forest from an OD, does anyone care?

 

No. But he makes a sound...

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There's already a theory on drugs opening an alternate universe. One of the reasons being similar things seen on certain types of drugs. I don't mean just hazes and whatnot, but DNA strands and "mechanical elves" running about. Some think that because many people share that same vision on a certain hallucinagen, that it may be real.

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Its not mind-expanding drugs...but mind-denying substances. Instead of experiencing all these emotions this world got to offer, by taking drugs you are making the emotions go amock in greater strength. And reality is that were you feel many ranges of emotions and can do many actions and not limited to what to which you are confined to. Anyways reality is were if you stab yourself the right way you will die.

 

Huuuuuuuummm....

*picks up a knife*
*stabs in heart*
*TruthSeeker is now dead*

 

Truthseeker: so who wrote that last "*", if ur dead?

 

Since mind-altering drugs only bind to certain uptake receptors in the brain, what they are doing bio-chemically is not modifying the brain at all, but allowing some built-in functionality to activate.

Given this, I'd say that psycotropic drugs could only become a doorway to other dimentions, realities, etc, if it were possible to do so with our brains alone.

I'd venture to say that since the experiences that you have under the influence are very certainly effected by your past and current life experiences, that drugs simply trigger the brain to dream forcefully; causing waking hallucinations of various types. This can be, in certain situations, used to the person's benefit; as seeing those dreams is truely a "looking into one's self", and thus could be used in coming to realizations about your own shortcomings.

See the use of peyote (active compound mescalin) in the Native American Church.

I think that this is just as easily explained by cultural commonalities, as well as species similarities. If our brains are all similar, then introducing a certain chemical will very likely create similar hallucinations.
Just like for a majority of people, SSRI anti-depressants work in predictable ways, asprin works in predictable ways, etc,etc,etc. We are all human, and our bodies are all very similar.

 

Problem here is not that drugs help one to see one's self and realize the shortcomings...problem is that he/she will be lost within oneself forever seeing the worlds like none this world has ever offered. The only shortcomings here would be not enough doses taken. Realize your true purpose and forever loose your soul. And that purpose is as hollow as the world we live in.

 

Worlds apart is a lonely place to be.

 

Worlds all connected is a croweded place to be

 

Do you think it's possible to be your own psychiatrist? It seems to me that if one were shown their true self and that wasn't something pleasant, they would just dwell in that nightmarish diagnosis with no real room for change given the magnification of the shortcomings.

 

Psychosis is a relative issue, one person's reality as compared to the communal reality.
It is not therefore possible for the one person to mend that in isolation.