SCENARIO: Build a fort for scientists. Similar to NORAD, but not necessarily under a mountain. The fort is meant to study all kinds of science. Mainly to come up with lots of new technologies and inventions. Computers, biological, mechanical, and more. Time article: Best inventions 2005. Of course there are 2 departments of staff. The scientists themselves, and the operation staff to keep the base running. Needs: 1. The science facilities. An area where all the science labs and facilites are. All state of the art labs and everything scientists need to conduct tests and experiments as well as engineer new technologies and inventions. Paricle accellerators. 2. Residence quarters. Each person would be provided with their own quarters. If they have a family, they get a family quarters for their family. Fully furnished. 3. Food center. This is where everybody goes to get healthy natural vegfoods. 4. Fitness center. All people have access to personal fitness facilites. There are trainers for yoga, aerobics, gymnastics, and other important fitness activities. 5. Beauty center. Hair salon, massage, skin/nail treatments, hot spring baths accupuncture, etc. 6. Uniforms. Just like the military, all personell in all departments receive a standard set of wardrobe. 7. Supply Center. All people can get supplies in different departments. All state of the art. Hygiene supplies, cleaning supplies, stationary, pillows, electronics, etc. 8. Academy. All children attend a brand new style of accelerated learning that cultivates interest in learning. There are also sessions for all adult personell. 9. Clinic. Doctors on site as well as nurses address any immediate needs of personell. 10. Security/survellace. There may not be any surveillance in personal quarters, and most quarters. Security/Surveillance is mostly for the exterior preventing outsiders from infiltration. 11. Maintenance and custodian. Responsible for trash duty, cleanup of main areas, and maintaining all areas. 12. Courier. Transport mail and packages throught the facility. 13. Bookstore. People can come here to sit and read like a library. Lounge area. Mini movie theater constantly playing movies according to a schedule. anybody may walk in, and watch. 14. Internal communications and transportation system. 15. Water treatment/supply. 16. Garden/lake. For peace and nature. Good place for meditation. 17. Financial center. Residents may keep their funds safe in the financial center which does not allow access from outside banks. Similar to Swiss Bank. 18. Night club. Main area for dance. Natural juice bar. Singing room. Dining area. 19. Power and backup power grid providing energy for the entire facility. Air duct system for proper ventillation for interiors. 20. Worship center for different religions. 21. Magazine/News area keeping track of everything from our progress to events to situationals within the fort. 22. Administration. Keeps track of all personell, projects, operations, etc. Provides reports to personell. Also provides a database which all personel can access giving a detailed information of the facility budget, and statistics.
And this is different from a University in/near a city how? And how do you propose to fund it? I assume you're looking at fusion power as well, so with the particle acellerator, you're back $10 billion minimum just for construction. And why the hell are they wearing uniforms?
I'm with geo, we just need to fund engineering and physics departments at universities more. sadly we would rather spend hundreds of billions of dollars on someone else's country (Iraq).
Agree. The problem with America right now is that it's fashionable to know absolutely no science. We've got people who think the moon landing was a hoax, and others who think there's no point in going to other planets. This population is not going to elect politicians who will spend money to build and support your fort.
What does this have to do with politicians? The uniforms are so they have something to wear. Otherwise they would be naked. Like the military, uniforms provide a more effective environment for anbody within the fort. Unlike the militray, it is not for camoflauge. Everybody that live and work in this same facility get uniforms. This not only distinguishes them for people who work from other companies. It allows everybody to identify eachother. Badges are also effective with the uniforms. Nobody has to decide what to wear to look better than others. Eitehr way, as a center for science there is a fashion department creating the best fabrics for clothing and most efficient appealing apparel. Of course, it is not a definite thing. Nothing is definite. These are all just some of the things that will probably be needed to operate such a facility.
Do those big underground bunkers or forts or whatever you call them, you know the like huge gigantic nuclear fallout shelter things they build for the polititions and important people to go to when theres a nuclear war, do they just sit empty all the time.
Im building almost the same thing... have been working on it.. for about 2 years now.... but the one im building MAY not be fortified, and it will literally be for all of the humans who may not be serious die hard professional paid scientist.. but have a personal interest in studing nature and technology.... its fun. all of which can be had and enjoyed in what will be called empirical churchs... or empirical mosques.. or empirical temples... etcs... in which.. yes.. religion is studied and preached at specific times and places within the facility... in fact... all religions are studied, and possibly practiced. but no one is forced into anything, and you, ,as the individual must learn and choose your own path... some may say this... others these things.. and still others say more... each will tell you they are correct and the only truth, each will make endless good and powerful arguements... you may listen to them if you like. this is how it works.. when in the church structure, you, as the student, must ask for a muslim or a christian or a hindu to preach to you before he may do so. or you may show up on specific and different days, where the over all theme of the facility will be polarized into each individual faith, one per day. maybe 2 per day.. depending. but... and i know that those religion things seem daunting.. especially given the lenght of most scriptures and the endless arguements that can be made about everything. all you need remember, is you are not required to believe in anything other than the possibility that the universe could of been created by the application of energy of specific quality as to cause the formation of what we call.. the universe. if your interested in that source of energy and its mystery.. then you may seek truth in the religions of the world, for there is your only hope of finding an answer. so.. when your not contemplating energy and whatnot in the religious sections, you can spend your time in the lybrary and laboratory sections. where in which, you, all of you, as individuals, can study your likes in the sciences and engineering, and actually work on and build your projects and experiments right there, in the church, where you willl have the help and assistance of all the like minded science wackos who have joined this.... empirical church. a strange place, very large and with many buildings, with at its highest peak... will be a 10,000 watt Tesla coil, operating at approx 700,000 hertz, and 3.5 - 10 million volts.... blasting out 30-50 foot sparks as thick as your arms.... I just need help building it. -MT
I think it is possible to "Rent/Lease/Lent" them from the Authorities in some cases. I know that I've spotted a few UK bunkers up for Lease. It's just if there was a war and they were needed, what ever you were doing in there would be turfed out unless what you are doing is like www.thebunker.net which probably has some data stored there that is secure.
Strangely enough I was discussing a similar sort of idea last week with my friend (also a scientist). You already see that a lot of scientist basically live at work. Why not complete the circle and make work and home the same place. 1. an institute with living quarters. 2. no groupleaders or students. Just independent researchers. 3. shared facilities. Researchers just do the work. 4. some areas for relaxing, including a free bar. 5. after 2-4 years you are out. Of course this will only work with single people.
Is that a similar structure to Cern? I don't like the 2-4 years idea, and the fact that there are no groundskeepers or families. The scientists can have their families and children live and participate in the institute. I'm going to draw up a map on ACAD today of the fort i am considering. I'd like to know all the scientific studies we can implement in this place. 1. Particle research. 2. Genetics. Genome. Stem cells. 3. Microcomputing/communications. 4. Robotics and mechanics. 5. Synthetics. 6. Aerospace. 7. Natural living for abundant vitality and whole human wellness. 8. City/social design and construction. 9. Understanding the universe and the building blocks of reality. Here is an important philosophy that I abide by: Skyrocketing technology for the sake of environment protection and human rights. There is an incomprehensibly immense amount of technology being supressed for financial purposes. Not only is the environment being eradicated, but the economy is preventing cheaper and faster methods of supporting humanl life on the earth habitat. I can't quote directly, but somebody once said that we have the cure for cancer, the technology to produce abundant crops in desert land, and the technology for clean safe energy. We also have the robotics that can handle much of the human effort. We can have all of this and even more. We can support the human/wildlife population as it grows very easily, and even more so as it continues to grow. We can develop even better technologies for interplanetary travel and settlement.
Can anybody give me a population estimate? 1. How many scientists and assistants alone would occupy this place? This does not include operations and administration. This includes the scientists alone. 2. What can we estimate would be the family structure of the entire population includng scientists, operations, admin, etc. EVERYONE. % Single: ? % Married Couple: ? % Couple w 1 child: ? % Couple w 2 child: ? % Couple w 3 child: ? % Couple w 4 child: ? % Couple w over 4 child: ? Elderly: Some residents may allow their elderly relatives to live with them. The qualification is that the elder must be over the age of X. In this case, the stats above would reflect the elderly as if a child. I used the word child, although, a more accurate word would be: "dependent" = Children, Elderly fam members, disabled adult fam members.
Seriously, what is it with the uniforms? Amazingly, I manage to recognise dozens of people every day, without the aid of uniforms and badges! On a more serious note, you need clear advantages for a project like this over the current setup. Additionally, this will need international funding, and a site that all those funding countries will agree to - not likely.
Somebody I was talking to said it is possible to declare a land as an independent sovreignity. This means that it would not be an entity under the US government, but an independent sovreignity with its own justice system. It is important to note that government by the people does not mean that the government is in authority while the people are subjects. It means that the people are the authority (the government), while their representative agents are the subjects. An important note I wanted to mention about the principal servant (which would basically be sort of the presiding administrator or president): Due to conflict of interest, the Principal Servant takes the responsibility of presiding over the land, but also must not only take a vow of poverty, but should have legal restrictions of conflict of interest. This means that this individual that takes up this great responsibility is also legally not allowed to own anything, have any money, and is responsible for managing the administration. Everything of course, is provided for this individual as is for all members of the First World with the only exception that the right to property and privacy are forfeited during official term. This prevents conflict of interest. Often times in corrupt USA government, we see public officials that are rich. The mayor of NY is extremely wealthy, and uses his position for his own profit as the best interest of the people instead of what the people decide what is in their own best interest. This is just one example out of many rich politicians. Using the vow of poverty and conflict of interest limitations, our public officials are truly servants of the public just as a maid is a servant. They have taken that position to serve the people without profitable interest. It is a nonprofit voluntary position out of pure generosity to the public. They preside over the administration without any personal interest whatsoever because as servants of the public, they give up their own personal interest for the sake of the personal interests of the public.
Back to the issue of this scientific fort, I would like to mention that the compound would have its own water/power source within the borders of the property. It has its own water treatment facility with its own natural water supply. It has its own energy plant as well using the most advanced safest natural technology to provide more power than any current primitive power plant. I noticed many people speak about how much this will cost. When calculating costs, we must not think interms of monetary currency, but in human in natural resources. There is no actual value in monetary currency which is based on pure faith. Currency is a religion. Of course, there would be an internal currency system, but the costs would be calculated in such: What is the best most efficient way can we provide the food and all the supplies needed to keep the fort in operation? It would need a specific amount of food and supplies each month as well as water and energy consumptions. What materials are needed for all aspects of the fort? What is the best format of compensation system we can use to compensate every participant in this project? The fort already provides them with food, clothing, shelter, supplies, and all kinds of amenemenittties as stated in the first post. (Child care, health care, fitness faciliteis, natural garden/park, etc.) Other than that, the individuals within this facility must be properly compensated monetarily in return for living and working in the facility. Positive propoganda that is not deceptive will also motivate people to support this science fort as a center for developing technologies and systems for the betterment of the world.
SWIMMING POOL WITH NO CHEMICALS http://www.superiorwater.com/how.html They also feature water treatment systems. Is this reliable?
If this place is in a remote location, what is the best way to provide independent power specifically for this place?
For a particle accelerator - nuclear power plant For day to day stuff, you'll probably get by with a combination of solar and wind turbines, plus backup batteries, or something similar. As to Superior Water, the first three stages are pretty standard filtration techniques, while stage four is nonsense. For more detail on water treatment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residential_water_treatment
