Experts Claim Official 9/11 Story is a Hoax

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  1. Solve et Coagula Banned Banned

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    9/11, was it all set up? An US led NWO? Incredible 10 MB download/film

    Please note: A NWO based on mass murder and slaughter will never prevail! Please dont be scared!!! Its simply impossible. The law of cause and effect will destroy all these responsible butchers and black masters sooner or later.

    Just wait and see how the responsible persons of 9/11 and of all other blatant events against humanity and therefore these perpetrators will be judged and destroyed either officially or secretly... be they Zionists, the US itself or Bin Laden and Co.

    Please do not manifest anger and hatred when you watch the film, just try to accept whatever truth is and trust in cosmic intelligence/God... everything will be perfect at the end... you will see..

    These people forgot the most important thing: DO NOT DO ONTO OTHERS THAT WHICH YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THEM DO ONTO YOU and therefore they will suffer tremendously...

    http://www.badongo.net/vid.php?file...erywhere__2006-02-09_amessageeveryfreedom.wmv

    best wishes from Switzerland

    lwwb
    Roger
     
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  3. dkb218 Banned Banned

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    Intresting video. I agree with you. Everything is as it should be. All the is in place. The cards have been dealt and the plan will soon or later back fire on those who thought themselves high and mighty.

    Mountains shall be laid to waste.
     
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  7. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    it's really amazing to see all of this created by an islamist

    but nothing is said about how islam oppresses women

    just more propaganda isn't it
     
  8. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    Making a bit of a genrealisation isn't it? I know many followers of the Islamic faith, and none of them oppress women.
     
  9. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    can we agree it is FUNDAMENTALIST Islam which opresses women?
     
  10. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I suppose extremist Islamic regimes (like the Taliban, or Iran) do oppress women.
     
  11. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    ..."SUPPOSE"..????!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  12. Solve et Coagula Banned Banned

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    Experts Claim Official 9/11 Story is a Hoax
    Mon Jan 30, 11:37 AM ET
    http://news.yahoo.com/

    Duluth, MN (PRWEB) January 30, 2006 -- A group of distinguished experts and scholars, including Robert M. Bowman, James H. Fetzer, Wayne Madsen, John McMurtry, Morgan Reynolds, and Andreas von Buelow, have concluded that senior government officials have covered up crucial facts about what really happened on 9/11.

    They have joined with others in common cause as members of "Scholars for 9/11 Truth" (S9/11T), because they are convinced, based on their own research, that the administration has been deceiving the nation about critical events in New York and Washington, D.C.

    These experts suggest these events may have been orchestrated by elements within the administration to manipulate Americans into supporting policies at home and abroad they would never have condoned absent "another Pearl Harbor." (Don't forget that Dubya supposedly wrote in his diary that night "We have just had another Pearl Harbor"- If anyone believes that King george wrote that all by his lonesome or even wrote it that night, I have a bridge for sale in the AZ desert)

    They believe that this White House is incapable of investigating itself and hope the possibility that Congress might hold an unaccountable administration accountable is not merely naive or wishful thinking.
    They are encouraging news services around the world to secure scientific advice by taking advantage of university resources to verify or to falsify their discoveries. Extraordinary situations, they believe, require extraordinary measures.

    If this were done, they contend, one of the great hoaxes of history would stand naked before the eyes of the world and its perpetrators would be clearly exposed, which may be the only hope for saving this nation from ever greater abuse.

    They hope this might include The New York Times, which, in their opinion, has repeatedly failed to exercise the leadership expecedt from our nation's newspaper of record by a series of inexplicable lapses. It has failed to vigorously investigate tainted elections, lies leading to the war in Iraq, or illegal NSA spying on the American people, major unconstitutional events. In their view, The Times might compensate for its loss of stature by helping to reveal the truth about one of the great turning-point events of modern history.

    Stunning as it may be to acknowledge, they observe, the government has brought but one indictment against anyone and, to the best of their knowledge, has not even reprimanded anyone for incompetence or dereliction of duty. The official conspiracy theory--that nineteen Arab hijackers under control of one man in the wilds of Afghanistan brought this about--is unsupportable by the evidential data, which they have studied. They even believe there are good reasons for suspecting that video tapes officially attributed to Osama bin Laden are not genuine.
    They have found the government's own investigiation to be severely flawed. The 9/11 Commission, designated to investigate the attack, was directed by Philip Zelikow, part of the Bush transition team in the NSA sector and the co-author of a book with Condoleezza Rice. A Bush supporter and director of national security affairs, he could hardly be expected to conduct an objective and impartial investigation.

    They have discovered that The 9/11 Commission Report is replete with omissions, distortions, and factual errors, which David Ray Griffin has documented in his book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions. The official report, for example, entirely ignores the collapse of WTC7, a 47-story building, which was hit by no airplanes, was only damaged by a few small fires, and fell seven hours after the attack.
    Here are some of the kinds of considerations that these experts and scholar find profoundly troubling:

    * In the history of structural engineering, steel-frame high-rise buildings have never been brought down due to fires either before or since 9/11, so how can fires have brought down three in one day? How is this possible?

    * The BBC has reported that at least five of the nineteen alleged "hijackers" have turned up alive and well living in Saudi Arabia, yet according to the FBI, they were among those killed in the attacks. How is this possible?

    * Frank DeMartini, a project manager for the WTC, said the buildings were designed with load redistribution capabilities to withstand the impact of airliners, whose effects would be like "puncturing mosquito netting with a pencil." Yet they completely collapsed. How is this possible?

    * Since the melting point of steel is about 2,700*F, the temperature of jet fuel fires does not exceed 1,800*F under optimal conditions, and UL certified the steel used to 2,000*F for six hours, the buildings cannot have collapsed due to heat from the fires. How is this possible?

    * Flight 77, which allegedly hit the building, left the radar screen in the vicinity of the Ohio/Kentucky border, only to "reappear" in very close proximity to the Pentagon shortly before impact. How is this possible?

    * Foreign "terrorists" who were clever enough to coordinate hijacking four commercial airliners seemingly did not know that the least damage to the Pentagon would be done by hitting its west wing. How is this possible?

    * Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta, in an underground bunker at the White House, watched Vice President Cheney castigate a young officer for asking, as the plane drew closer and closer to the Pentagon, "Do the orders still stand?" The order cannot have been to shoot it down, but must have been the opposite. How is this possible?

    * A former Inspector General for the Air Force has observed that Flight 93, which allegedly crashed in Pennsylvania, should have left debris scattered over an area less than the size of a city block; but it is scattered over an area of about eight square miles. How is this possible?

    * A tape recording of interviews with air traffic controllers on duty on 9/11 was deliberately crushed, cut into very small pieces, and distributed in assorted places to insure its total destruction. How is this possible?

    * The Pentagon conducted a training exercise called "MASCAL" simulating the crash of a Boeing 757 into the building on 24 October 2000, and yet Condoleezza Rice, among others, has repeatedly asserted that "no one ever imagined" a domestic airplane could be used as a weapon. How is this possible?

    Their own physics research has established that only controlled demolitions are consistent with the near-gravity speed of fall and virtually symmetrical collapse of all three of the WTC buildings. While turning concrete into very fine dust, they fell straight-down into their own footprints.

    These experts and scholars have found themselves obliged to conclude that the 9/11 atrocity represents an instance of the approach--which has been identified by Karl Rove, the President's closest adviser--of "creating our own reality."

    UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA James Fetzer 218 724-2706
     
  13. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    Ok then, the Taliban and modern Iran DO, QUITE DEFINATELY oppress women.
     
  14. The Devil Inside Banned Banned

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    lets not forget saudi arabia....

    i pretty much agreed with everything the video had to say, but it was pure propoganda nonetheless. no different from foxnews.

    folks should stop making these "inspirational" short films and start creating dry, straight to the point documentaries.

    just calling bush evil isnt going to affect most americans.
     
  15. TheVisitor The Journey is the Reward Registered Senior Member

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    There was a book written by the former secretary general of the armed forces for the U.S. in 1987, and in it he stated that the next major world threat after the communist regime of the Soviet Union was the Muslum religion which will stop nothing short of world domination unless they are stopped.
    They had 12 arab nations, 10 of the former Soviet states, Pakistan, and most of Indonesia.
    Just like Nazi Germany in WWII, which started in 1939, U.S. public oppinion was being swayed by liberals within the media who where pacifists, and told the public WWII was Europes fight, not the U.S.A.'s.
    Inteligence sources in the U.S. knew the truth about Germany's Atomic Bomb program, and knew if they got the Bomb they would use it on the U.S., so we had to enter the war before then not just to liberate Europe, but stop Germany before the got the Bomb and save ourselves as well.
    There is then serious questions about the real events leading up to the attack on Pearl Harbor, because the hold the media had on the U.S. mentality towards entering the War had to be changed immediatly for the sake of our own survival, and the public couldn't be told the truth about Germany because it would have started a panic and compromised national security.
    If you had to weigh the lives of 3000 sleeping sailors in that Harbor on Sunday morning against the future of our entire nation, what would you have done?
    What do you think they did,...We won the war.
    With the liberal stranglehold on the U.S. public mentality still in place, is it strange it took almost the same amount of lives as Pearl Harbor to let us enter this conflict before it was again too late.
    The public can't always be told the facts without costing us the victory, in the interest of national security.
     
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  16. The Devil Inside Banned Banned

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    drivel.
    show proof that ANY nation in the middle east has ever posed a serious threat to the national security of the united states.
     
  17. TheVisitor The Journey is the Reward Registered Senior Member

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    I never said any nation was the threat... I said a religion,
    Since the time of Nimrod who taught the art of war to man after the flood and split the desendants of Noah up from the beleif in one God to many gods, there has never been so great a threat as a warrior who believes he is giving his life for his god.
    The scriptures say; In that day they will kill you, thinking they are doing a service for their god.
     
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  18. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    and what about 'dying for an IDEOLOGY'? you tik that is GOOd, thevisitor??

    the problem as i see it is tis:

    yes, of course fundamentalist Islam is wrong and oppressive
    but SO IS rthe ideology you seem to have hold a blind spot too

    your ideology has caused/is causing So much fukin destruction--even of Nature itself

    so....where do we go from'here'??????
     
  19. TheVisitor The Journey is the Reward Registered Senior Member

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    You asked....

    Russia according to a prophetic vision, will get brought into this conflict against the U.S., when Russia goes down to the middle east for the oil.
    This results in nuclear war and the destruction of America.
    A man with prophetic insight, (a seer), who died in 1965 said he had a vision of the future in 1933 and said He saw that Russia destoyed the U.S. with nuclear weapons and there was nothing left to see of her but craters and smoking ruins in the vision God gave him.
    In the tens of thousands of visions God gave this man before his death in 1965, not one was ever wrong.

    According to Isaiah 24:5-6 the curse is upon the earth because the statutes of the Lord have been not kept and the Word taught to the people for truth has been changed,
    Isaiah 24:5-6
    5: "the earth is also defiled under the inhabitants thereof;because they have transgressed the laws,changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant."
    6: "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth,and they that dwell thereon are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left."


    You see, once America was looked to by the whole world as a christian nation, but her churches have defied God, putting Him out in place of their traditions and creeds.
    Like He did to Israel, "a nation that forgets God, that nation shall God destroy"
    God is the Word, not some denominational dogma.
    "When the Son of Man returns, shall He find faith on the earth?"
    He found opposittion instead from Americas churches, and to keep Him out they formed an eccumenical council, where is required their special fellowship card of approval even to preach in their churches.
     
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  20. TheVisitor The Journey is the Reward Registered Senior Member

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    There was a book written by the former secretary general of the armed forces for the U.S. in 1987, and in it he stated that the next major world threat after the communist regime of the Soviet Union was the Muslum religion which will stop nothing short of world domination unless they are stopped.
    They had 12 arab nations, 10 of the former Soviet states, Pakistan, and most of Indonesia.
    Just like Nazi Germany in WWII, which started in 1939, U.S. public oppinion was being swayed by liberals within the media who where pacifists, and told the public WWII was Europes fight, not the U.S.A.'s.
    Inteligence sources in the U.S. knew the truth about Germany's Atomic Bomb program, and knew if they got the Bomb they would use it on the U.S., so we had to enter the war before then not just to liberate Europe, but stop Germany before they got the Bomb and save ourselves as well.
    There is then serious questions about the real events leading up to the attack on Pearl Harbor, because the hold the media had on the U.S. mentality towards entering the War had to be changed immediatly for the sake of our own survival, and the public couldn't be told the truth about Germany because it would have started a panic and compromised national security.
    If you had to weigh the lives of 3000 sleeping sailors in that Harbor on Sunday morning against the future of our entire nation, what would you have done?
    What do you think they did,...We won the war.
    With the liberal stranglehold on the U.S. public mentality still in place, is it strange it took almost the same amount of lives as Pearl Harbor to let us enter this conflict before it was again too late.
    The public can't always be told the facts without costing us the victory, in the interest of national security.
     
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  21. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    if 9/11 was indeed an inside job this quote would explain why

    i never did beleive iraq has wmd
    nor did i beleive we were there for the oil
     
  22. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    yes in general and specificly in the middle east
     
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  23. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    you are one of the few posters here who understands this
     

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