After a Trillion?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by moementum7, Dec 23, 2005.

  1. moementum7 ~^~You First~^~ Registered Senior Member

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    Hey peoplz,
    I have asked at least 7 people now what comes after a Trillion, and no one knows.
    So I figured where else to go now but to the brightest and best minds today.
    (only slight sarcasm there

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  3. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    gillion?? zillion? it would be giga anyway...
    -MT
     
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  5. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    a bigger number.
    seriously though, i have no idea. hexillion?
     
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  7. Light Registered Senior Member

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    Most (well, a lot) of people can make it up through quadrillion, quintillion, sextillion and septillion. After that, it still follows the same pattern:


    octillion
    nonillion
    decillion
    undecillion
    dodecillion,
    tredecillion
    quattuordecillion
    quindecillion
    sexdecillion
    septendecillion
    octodecillion
    novemdecillion
    vigintillion
    unvigintillion
    dovigintillion
    trevigintillion
    quattuorvigintillion
    quinvigintillion
    sexvigintillion
    septenvigintillion
    octovigintillion
    novemvigintillion
    trigintillion
    untrigintillion
    dotrigintillion
    tretrigintillion
    quattuortrigintillion
    quintrigintillion
    sextrigintillion
    septentrigintillion
    octotrigintillion
    novemtrigintillion

    If you want to go WAY out there, then use a googol which is 1 followed by 100 zeros. And the largest that anyone has bothered to define (as far as I know) is a googolplex - which is a 1 followed by a googol of zeros.

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  8. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i heard that googol was coined by a child. is that correct?
     
  9. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    The name was. The mathematician was trying to make a large number, so he asked his 5 year old son. Apparently.
     
  10. Light Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, Leo - that's true.

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    It was named (the word made up) by the nine-year-old nephew of mathematician Edward Kasner.
     
  11. Oxygen One Hissy Kitty Registered Senior Member

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    I was going to suggest that was comes after a trillion is a trillion and one.
     
  12. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    What I don't understand is why does it take a Mathematician (Edward Kasner) to define or name (googol) 10^100? People who use numbers this high (scientists, engineers, etc) don't refer to them by names.
     
  13. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Brilliant!

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  14. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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    Only in the natural numbers. What's the first number after a trillion in the reals?

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  15. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    There's a whole thread on this subject over under Math and Physics. It goes dormant for about ten months and then somebody discovers it and gets it going for the rest of the year.
    It's really only economists who need these words. They don't want to refer to a ten to the fourteenth dollar economy, they want to call it a hundred trillion dollars. Once "billion" was coined and the model was made clear, it was just compulsive doodlers who filled out the whole series.

    Nobody really uses those words except maybe kids who want to know how many miles there are in a light-year. (I'll leave that calculation to the readers. c=186,000 mi/sec.)

    There is still disagreement over some of the terms. I haven't bothered to look them up in the OED but sexillion vies with sextillion and I occasionally see novillion instead of nonillion. The actual derivation of the scientific modern Latin words is a little shaky and leaves room for ambiguity.

    I hope everybody knows that in most of the world 1,000,000,000 is one thousand million and a billion is what the Americans and French call a trillion. It does make more sense that way if you count the zeros. It just gets pretty cumbersome in languages like Spanish where you have grammar to contend with and $600,000,000,000 is "seis cientos mil millones de dolares."

    Yes, the Brits have grudgingly adopted our definition of billion because it's too confusing to hear people like Bill Gates referred to as billionaires even though they're a zero or two short in their paradigm.
     
  16. moementum7 ~^~You First~^~ Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks peoplz.
    So if I am to understand you light, it's a Quadrillion.
    Thanks.

    I shouldn't ever have to know what comes after that.
    I hope.
     
  17. Light Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, that's correct.

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    I just tossed in the others for a bit of trivia.
     
  18. draqon Banned Banned

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    the huge XXX caught my attention...thought it was pornography hidden inside those numbers...
     
  19. draqon Banned Banned

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    yup.

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    ...no doubt...no doubt...
     
  20. sargentlard Save the whales motherfucker Valued Senior Member

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    How much processing power would it take to simply write a googloplex?
     
  21. draqon Banned Banned

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    not much...u just processed it with ur brain, you wrote "googloplex".
     
  22. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    A googolplex is absurdly, unrealistically, supermetaphysically ...big, even when compared to a googol. A googol is greater than the (estimated) number of atoms in the universe. How much processing power? To write all the digits of a googol .. example 4 ghz microprosessor -- assumming writing one digit /cycle (I know it takes more cycles), I calculated it would take a computer (roughly):
    79274479959411466260781329274480000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 YEARS
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    7.9e+82 YEARS -- which is also GREATER than the estimated number of atoms in the universe! (I think one source had estimated 1x10^70)
     
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  23. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    What if it was done through Boinc by millions of users?

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