Evidence in the Pyramids

[Davespace7]

It is a fact that there have been hieroglyphs found in a pyramid that show futuristic objects. Of them are helicopters, and strange alien looking ships. I viewed this very thing on a respected tomb unveiling on the FOX network. I have not been able to remember, or find out what this pyramids name is though. If anyone knows, please e-mail me.


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[Bottica]

I you are an affictionato of past civilisations, you will notice that on all pyramids, coffins (tombs, sorry the english), painting inside the pyramids, paintings on pottery, linen etc. the same subjects/desings are represented over and over again. This applies from the Croetians, Aztecs, Incas to the Egyptians...(etc.) same for the Akanazi Indians.

Many "past" civilisations repeat the same occurances....

Bottica


* And no, to anyone reading this, it is not a figment of our imagination...Look at the representations of what they saw then ( this being in their realities, as they saw it and could understand it ), and look at what we see and live with now...
I guess they just had a cristal ball and could see the future !!

[Ivan]

I believe that old Aztec (if I spelled it right) civilizations encountered alien life
and were able to comunicate with it.It is all described in the books of Erich fon Danniken.They used planets to calculate exact time,they built long roads in jungle
that were perfectly straight.There is a site in South America consisting of temples that were built in exact distance from the main, central temple.That site represented our solar system.Yet, these men were very primitive and their dedication to their 'gods' suggests that 'gods' were in fact aliens who gave them the knowledge.

[Ghost in the Machine]

I think the mystery of the pyramids will remain one for a long time. There is just as much evidence to support alien involvement as there is to debunk it. The only reason we point to the sky is because it is unfathomable to think that an ancient civilisation could erect monoliths in the sandy deserts of Egypt. But, in all honesty the coincidences that the pyramids (etc) present with the pyramids of Peru and Mexico is too big for a coincidence... maybe both civilisations saw something is nthe sky, maybe they didn't... And what about Pi, building the 3 pyramids of Giza on that line is a little too odd for me...

Ja Ne, Ghost in the Machine

[Mo Green]

It's the Chariotts of the GOds man.

Hey, they practically own all of SOuth Amerika.

[Lori]

The more I read up, the more I think that this is not the first time in the history of this planet that humans have not only interacted with, but also bred with aliens. It talks of such a time in Genesis in the Bible. Note that each time that this has occurred, that God felt it necessary to virtually destroy the earth, or to at least wipe out all of the "consequences" of this interaction. I believe that this will happen again. Notice the global changes in weather. It seems that the more people interact with aliens, or believe what they tell them, the further the person gets from Jesus. This is a trend, and a concrete one at that. These are the "fruits" that are spoken of in the Bible. What are the "fruits" of an alien abduction? From what I have seen, they are a falling away from the true Christ. This is very scary to me, because the aliens have a really good story to tell, and because we desparately want to believe that they are being truthful with us, and will not harm us. If we believed otherwise, then what would our options really be, other than to pray? There are no other options, right? Why do we believe them so willingly? Why do we not question, when it is sooooo in our nature to question EVERYTHING else? Scary.

[Bottica]

Lori

Changes in the weather patterns have been brought on by us humans not because of our interaction with alliens, but because we have alliniated planet earth ourself !

It is our fault because we have not respected what was given to us freely..that is we have managed to destroy everything with our senseless pollution of everything that surrounds us..and that is for at least the past 150 years !

By polluting our planet we have raised its external, and internal "heat" (lack of better word), we have stripped mountains of trees, and exploded atomic, and nuclear bombs under the sea etc...what does one expect ?

For sure all weather patterns will and have changed. And what is more, the present situation that we are experiencing (in relation to changes in the weather..of which this is only the start) was predicted by scientist at least 40 years ago. At that point the concesus was that if we changed our ways then maybe the results which we are seeing now would never happen. 30 years ago pollution was deemed irreversable...so here goes.

Now, as for the Alliens...if I was one of them..I would probably just nudge my fellow spacecraft buddie/traveller and comment on how dumm us persons from this planet earth are...that is because we have managed to dig our own grave and we still are laughing at it !!

Again, being an Allien I would probably just move on...or maybe get a few of the brightest one on board..and offer them a cold one !

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Bottica
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[Corp.Hudson]

How easy is it to sit back and blame the problems with the planet on pollution? I hate to burst your bubble, but as you attempt to "solve" the problem you simply add to it. That computer you are using? It caused pollution when made at the factory. That power you use to run it? Not only does it take coal out of the earth, it then places it into the atmosphere. Those Ufology books? What do you know! They waste trees!

So if you are going to complain about pollution, go find a cave and recycle everything so you don't add to the problem.

Corp.Hudson <ufo@idcomm.com>

P.S.-Don't blame global warming on human pollution. It is a global cooling/warming, spanning millions of years. It is beyond our control. By studying the paleoenvironment we can glean that we are simply on the up part of this naturally occuring cycle.

[Lori]

Hey Bottica,

I'd have to agree with the Corp on some points. It pisses me off that yes, we as humans have chosen to destroy this planet, but why? The answer is simple; we have rejected God, and rejected the truth, in that this planet doesn't belong to us, but to Him. If we had always realized this, we would have treated it with much more respect. Just like if you borrow someone else's car, you are apt to be more careful while driving it, than you would if you were driving your own. The fact is though, that all of these years, we have been influenced to reject God by the very spirits who are now going to "save us" from ourselves and our wicked ways, that they have propagated within us in the first place. Did that make any sense at all? I mean, how convenient is that? They influence us for centuries to reject God and follow our own egos, and destroy our planet in the name of the almighty dollar, and then when we're on our last leg, they come and save the day. They have set themselves up to be our saviors in this day. When if we had rejected their influence in the first place, we would not need them to "save us" now.

Also, I have read that there is scientific proof that global warming is not a result of pollution or nuclear weapons, but a result of an outside influence in the universe. A change in the gravitational pull on this planet. This has to do with the theory of the 12th planet, which can be explained further on several different sites including zetatalk.com.

[Corp.Hudson]

Perhaps you missed the point of my post. It was sarcstic. Humans have not destroyed the planet. The planet is just as healthy and robust as it was 65 MYA.

The "12th Planet Theory" or whatever could very well be correct. My main point is that global warming is NOT people caused. It is not alien caused. It is a natural proccess, that has occured for at least several million years.

[Morphology]

Has anyone ever considered how the earth feels about our presence?

We think we own the earth, but we disregard the fact that the earth is very much alive. One day the earth may just shrug us off her shoulders like a horse who brushes so many flies with a pass of the tail.

[Bottica]

Morphology, and all...

I think you are very correct in your statement ...and basicly this is what I have been trying to say...That by our egosictical ways of dealing with our host this planet called earth, we have managed to destroy all eco-systtems that surrounds us.

And you know what, it has absolutly nothing to do with a 12 planets or anything of the sort (or the bible for that fact ).

The gov. will have us beleive that all is well... Yes,...( and I dream also at times ) But then I can't do otherwise than to think that the gov. must "assume" that we are dummies !...Because all you have to do is look around (without being Einsten ! ) to realise that all that was given to us is going to hell....

And again I repeat, what is happening to us...we made it happen...That is again with the help of our precious gov'ssss.

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[Ghost in the Machine]

I have to agree partially with Bottica on this one- we are causing our own demise. It doesn't really matter who or what put us on Earth, but the fact that is improtant is that we don't know how to use Earth and her resources wisely. The human race is still in a pompus, vain, egotistical stage in out development, yes, we try to recycle and so forth but the fact remains; we are still killing mother earth. It doesn't matter how much we recycle or preserve or protect, we have done the damage so we might as well owe up and pay for it. maybe we still have a chance, but it will take alot of hard work to make it happen.

You know, its kind of ironic, if you murder someone, or watch someone being murdered in broad daylight as you stand in the middle of an open street you would be charged. Yet our planet slowly dies a little every day and we just sit back and laugh and not send a second glance her way. Go figure.

Ja Ne, Ghost in the Machine

[kmartian9]

Lori,
Why do we not question GOD and Christ like everything else? When there is even less evidence of them then there are of aliens.
I think what is really scary is that 90% of the world's population belives in a supream being who was made up a person to give people
a sense of purpose.For many dedicate thier lives to GOD or Christ because they do not want to face the possibilty that they spent their whole life working for nothing. And a belief in aliens does not mean the disbelief
of GOD or Christ although it does seem that way. But that is because a more substantial
being has arrived to give us a sense of purpose and this new being asks for nothing not even belief in itself. which makes it easier to accepts than an all knowing dictator who we call GOD.

[Lori]

Well, for starters, I think it's pretty egotistical to assume that those who do believe do so without questioning. I, for one, have questioned my beliefs for most of my life, and I questioned hard, ok? Maybe you're the one who hasn't thought this through? Could be, right? Also, kind of arrogant to assume that everyone who has believed, when questioned, just comes up with some trite shit to pass off, so they don't have to admit to "wasting" their lives. And may I ask, Bottica, this planet is a gift given to us by whom? I'm sorry, I can not go into all of the arguements that I presented myself with when trying to decide if I believed, but I'm no dummy, and it just makes good sense. Even in the context of pollution, and the environment; that's just one of many examples. May I point out as well, that most people on this site believe in a creator (I don't think any of us still believe in Darwin's theory anymore, do we?), they are just giving credit to aliens instead of to God. That's the only difference that I really see here, or anywhere I look nowadays, for that matter. And the dictator comment really gets to me, not that I haven't heard it before, because it's soooooooo contradictory. The whole reason that you don't know the truth at this very moment is because God will not "impose" it upon you. Would you rather He did? Because then, and only then, would He be considered a dictator.

[generalhurrss]

How come when somebody asks a question it drifts off to this bullshit known as religion.
Man created religion and gods because he/she fears death.
Can anyone tell me what happens when we die?

[Davespace7]

I am greatly offended by your reply. You have not reserved the right to put down the way people go about their life. If you are speaking against the Christian religion, well I am assuming you are an evolutionist. Expanding upon that point, I would like to let you know that the evolutionists, even though they do not like to think of it this way, are practicing a religion all their own. There is no way to fully prove the evolutionists theory, so therefor there is a great deal of faith present when it comes to believing we originated from monkeys, and that the earth is billions of years old. If this was true, the first astronauts should have sunken under a layer of space dust a few meters thick on the moon, and it didn't happen. Oh, and if everything in the universe is degrading, how is it that we evolved into the forms that we take now, vs. have our genetic code degrade into a form of lesser complexity?

So in conclusion, you are not so different from the people that reserve their faith in God. Keep that in mind.

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[Lori]

Generalhurrss,

Check out http://www.near-death.com

There are also many other near death sites out there that are very interesting reading. Do a search on it and see what you find.

[Corp.Hudson]

You people have been smoking crack. Get over your high horse attitudes.

Humans are not destroying the planet earth. I don't know if you read my previous posts, or you are too stupid to understand them.

The earth is not a living being. It is simply a ball of molten rock surrounded by a hardened crust. It is very complex, and has a vast ecological system, but it is not alive.

There is not a shred of evidence that we are destroying the earth. I state once again, it is just as healthy and robust as it was 65 million years ago!

[Lori]

Corp. Hudson,

Take a pill, dude. Are you really a Corporal? May explain the attitudinal problem. Listen, I'm not stupid, ass-wipe (sorry, general), and if I had to bet a lot of money on it, I'd say that you were in denial, big time. Let me guess, a spoiled, male-chauvanist, baby-boomer, with a nice pension built up after years of hard work, who HAS to "buy in" to the system, otherwise would not feel satisfied with his life? Am I close? I never claimed to be a psychic, but you sound a hell of a lot like my dad.

[Corp.Hudson]

You are way off. I am not a Corporal, or involved in the army in any way. I am 15, and I have been into the whole "ufo thing" for the last 7 years.

I by no means at all buy into the system. I am always in my school deans office for breaking unjust rules. I was perhaps too aggressive in my post, and I apologize.

It is just that most (Dave is an exception :p) people involved in ufology believe for the sake of believing. Believe because there is hard evidence to back it up, not because you want some spiritual connection with the earth or something along those lines.

The material that has been posted here is pure garbage. I have not seen one shred of hard evidence to back your claims up. If you have it, show it to me. I would love to see it!

People are not destroying the earth, and neither are aliens. The earth is not being destroyed! I don't know how I can get my point across to you people.

I am sorry about the shitty state of this message, but I have to go play Blood2 Demo now! :)

[Lori]

You know what kiddo? The shit you've posted here is pure garbage. You need to get some religion. Here, let me get out my bunsen burners, and conduct an experiment for you...nah, just go back to playing your mindless games.

[Corp.Hudson]

I need religion? I have religion, though not organized :)

I have been overly aggressive, and I apologize.

I honestly and openly ask for a shred of evidence to support that the earth is being destroyed. I honestly would like to see it.

BTW: How appropriate that you would mock science, as the majority of the ufology community does the same thing unwittingly

[Davespace7]

Go here for some FORMAL evidence on UFO's

http://www.jse.com/ufo_reports/Sturrock/toc.html

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[Corp.Hudson]

Dave- I absolutely believe that Unidentified Flying Phenomena exist. I also believe that a good portion of these are atmospheric phenomena.

But a small portion probably do relate to psychic phenomena, government tests, and extra-terrestrial vehicles. I am not seeking evidence to prove that point. I completely understand statements like "I believe that aliens visit the planet" etc.

What I want evidence to back up is stuff like this quote from bottica "I think you are very correct in your statement ...and basicly this is what I have been trying to say...That by our egosictical ways of dealing with our host this planet called earth, we have managed to destroy all eco-systtems that surrounds us."

There is nothing to back that up with. No eco systems have been destoyed by people. Harmed yes, but they evolved and adapted to us as we did to them.

I am not a closed minded person. I just want to be able to prove something before I believe in it.

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[Corp.Hudson]

What the hell happened to this discussion?

BTW, I forgot to dispute the post that this disscussion started from. The FOX tomb unveiling was not some well respected archealogical phenomena. This is the same network that brought you "Worlds Worst Police Chases When Pedophiles And There Dogs Are In The Back Seat And Crash Part 34". :)

[Davespace7]

Meow, Hiss Hiss

[Corp.Hudson]

I would like to continue with this discussion. Heres a starting point-

"It is a fact that there have been hieroglyphs found in a pyramid that show futuristic objects. Of them are -Davespace7

That is in no way shape or form a fact. It is an intepretation of a pictographically based(you know what I mean...) form of writing. Show me photographs, and let me make my own interpretation. Proof of this: go to www.idcomm.com/personal/ufo/hele1.gif (http://www.idcomm.com/personal/ufo/hele1.gif)
and tell me what you see

[Plato]

I've just visited the three most famous piramids and even went inside the one of Mycherinos : no paintings what so ever on the wall ! That was kind of a tick off I must say, in all the other graves and temples I've been up to that point along the Nile there had been depictions of burial ceremonies and Hieroglyphs to praise the gods but the great piramid was just moist, hot and had very little oxygen because of all the other tourists who thought they would see the most spectacular thing in their life. If you have witnessed the hugheness of the piramid from outside then I really don't recommend you to enter it : no fun at all!
Any way these things don't in the least bit make me wonder about possible aliens or Atlantis-kind-of-wizards who build or helped to build those constructs. Instead it makes me humble about the faith that drove people to build it, faith really does move mountains it appears !

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we are midgets standing on the backs of giants,
Plato

[H-kon]

Plato

Did you go into the Cheos pyramid.. the smallest and the first one? I have a magazine here in Swedish that shows the pictures of it..

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just waiting for my peabrain to boot into English

[Plato]

No, I didn't but I do know that the one of Cheops is not the smalles but the biggest. Cheops was the grandfather, then you have Chefren, the father and last Mycherinos. It appears they kind of ran out of funds to build their piramids because they became smaller and smaller...

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we are midgets standing on the backs of giants,
Plato

[Spadge]

Plato

How on earth can you advise people not to bother going inside the most incredible structure on Earth just because of its lack of internal writings. If you'd done a bit more research on the building before you went there and you'd known what to look for I'm sure that you would have found it a good deal more interesting than you did.

[Plato]

Spadge,

You only say that because you haven't been there. I tell you the tombs in the vally of the King are much more beautiful than the inside of the pyramids ! Although the form of the burial chamber is exactly the same, there were no paintings. Normally there should be a starry sky on the ceiling but there was none of the sort.

You see that is what happens with every mystery ! As long as you don't actually see it and experience the reality of it, it is wonderfull to fantisize about it but it pops like a soapbell when you touch it.
This might very well apply to ufo's also, as long as they stay 'unknown' there is room for countless speculation but once it gets 'known', it gets boring and loses it's special status.

So I advise you, Spadge never to go to the piramids at all and stay away from every other mysterious place or thing you can think of, the beauty and the enigma will be left untouched.

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we are midgets standing on the backs of giants,
Plato

[Spadge]

Plato

I'm sorry Plato but I'm astounded by your reply. It's like saying nobody should go to Stonhenge because they are just a bunch of big rocks with no artistic markings on them whatsoever. Their facination with me lies in their mystery and not how they are decorated. I thought we were discussing the Great Pyramid's mystery here and not how beautiful it is.

I really do wonder what you actually know about this structure at all.

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[Plato]

They are burial mounts for the kings, same thing as everywhere else but here they are a bit bigger because the kings had more money and power to build them. That is all, no mysterie involved.

Besides, I have ben to Stonehenge as well and again, I'm sorry to say not much is left.
The secret here lies in the surrounding landscape that is literaly spickled with burial sites. If you dispence with all the legendary fuss about the place again you get a hughe burial site.

What does this say ? That people have been occupied with death since they uttered their first coherent thought. There lies the mysterie, one we haven't solved up untill this day (maybe we never will), the mysterie of death !

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we are midgets standing on the backs of giants,
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[Spadge]

Plato

Firstly, to adress the original disscusion, I would like to point out that I am not saying I think that The Great Pyramid is evidence of extraterrestrial contact. I do however believe that it is proof of an older civilisation which possessed knowledge which mankind forgot for a long time. I have to assume that you are not aware of the relatively recent discoveries of Graham Hancock who has proved his case for a more ancient civilisation beyond doubt as far as I'm concerned. Apologies if you have...

I posted that first message in response to what I saw as you trivialising the most astounding construction on the face of the Earth. Your view was the Valley of the Kings is more beautiful and nobody should go to the Great Pyramid as it's not nicely decorated. That was your first point and you can't dispute it. You say that it's a burial mound which happens to be just a bit bigger because of the money the Pharoahs had. A bit bigger? Isn't that just a tiny bit of an understatement? It's 450 foot tall for God's sake. It is a fact that The Great Pyramid would tax modern building methods to the limit to reproduce it. What's more there is no gaurantee that it could be done to the same degree of amazing accuracy. You say that there is no mystery attached to this place at all. I'm afraid you could not be further from the truth. For a start it incorporates the figure Pi into its contruction which wasn't supposed to be discovered until the Ancient Greeks came along. The fact the inside chambers of the pyramid are not decorated is actually another mystery. Why is Cheop's name (Khufu for those not familiar with his other moniker) not plastered all over the place. You'd think he would have wanted to advertise the fact that this was his tomb. Quite a modest bloke considering he was supposed to be part god don't you think.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid I also have to correct you on the Stonehenge bit. Stonehenge is not, as you say, an ancient burial ground and I have never even heard it ever described as one by anyone. It is pretty much agreed by everyone that Stonehenge was either built for the study or worship of the heavens or for seasonal rites. Recent discoveries have only added strenghth this view. Again, the fact that they are basically a load of old stones would not stop me from going there.

I shall desist from saying more......for now!

I look forward to your reply.



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[Dave]

You are both forgetting the fact that the great pyramid is in fact more than an estimated 10,000 years old and perhaps older still! It wasn't made to be a tomb for an egyptian king and the ancient egyptian civilisation (as we know them from ~4,500 years ago) didn't build them. That's why there are no markings or glyphs or decorations in them. It was made for a function, not to impress people of the future with their great tastes in dècore!
Remember that the egyptians were very particular about keeping records on everything they did. From child-birth to harvesting, to sacrifices and general lifestyle. Yet there is not one single glyph anywhere that tells of the building of the pyramids -Why? because they were already there!
Money had nothing to do with it either. Remember that one of the kings son's of about ~2,500 years ago, took off upstream to start his own city because he didn't agree with worshipping 50 god's, he opted for worshipping just one and to hold Him responsible for all that is. So, how could he build an entire city and make it more cost effective than building one pyramid? -On his own funds and not his parents??

I'm working from old memory so don't bash me for not having EXACT dates etc. Remember the topic is "Evidence in the Pyramids" - The evidence I see is that ancient egyptians (circa 5,000 years ago) did not construct the Great Pyramid.
Ancient Sumerian tablet texts have been found that actually describe what seem to be the Pyramids of Egypt. These tablets were over 10,000 years old, which really helps what I've just said. A real eye opener is these same texts name the earth as the 7th planet in our solar system. Considering the last two planets were only discovered in the last 50 years or so, how did they know if you count all the planets from the edge of our system going in, that earth was the 7th planet, not the 3rd, as we count from the sun out??
There's so much to discover and learn- but will the answers come in our lifetime?

Regards
Dave

[Spadge]

Dave

The Great Pyramid is not supposed to be 10,000 years old. Egyptologists say that it was constructed around around 5,000 years ago.

Davespace7

The helicopter heiroglyph you mentioned in the first post was not found in a pyramid. It was discovered on a wall panel frieze in the Egyptian temple of Seti 1 at Abydos.
The general opinion of Egyptologists about the freize , which also seems to show a tank and a submarine, is that there is no mystery to it at all. They say that it is simply the inscription of a royal name. This however does not explain why these glyphs appear. Egyption heiroglyphics are a pictorial form of writing and a helicopter glyph should simply mean helicopter. Egyptologists appear to be ducking this particular point and their deafening silence appears to confirm that none of these glyphs appear in any dictionary of ancient Egyption language.

It does not however, mean that it is actually a helicopter.....



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[ramonth]

Wow - you guys really go off the deep end. Try a LITTLE research. It's good for the soul. First check out STICHIN. He is an expert on ancient civilizations. One of only 12 or so people who can READ Sumerian glyphs. He is of Jewish descent and does a remarkable job in explaining the pyramids and the begining of civilization. He explains it and shows you why he thinks what he does. The 10th (12th) planet has been confirmed by Scientists. Who know that a "very large planet size object IS affecting the outer planets orbits. (The Search for Planet X) It is due to RETURN in 2003. It is already affecting our planet. Global warming? Next try ZETTALK. While it is a little off subject from Stichin, is still very interesting. One final note- the pyramids were built as communication devices. All the guts have been removed. Egyptians then used them for burials. Consider that on Dec 31st '99 there will be a live broadcast from it-after they have placed a gold foiled metal cap on it. Better for transmission and reception?
PEACE ramonth

[Plato]

I'm not even going to read this any more, some much BS together makes my head turn.

Have a nice discussion !

[Spadge]

Rammoth

Aarrggh...........Giant communication devices!!!!!!! I'm sorry but I personally think that is a load of crap.

The pyramids were, as Dave says, designed and built for a function. That function could well have been to launch the spirit of the deceased pharaoh to the stars.


Plato

I do agree with you when you say that a lot of this is crap but you really should do a bit more reasearch. The latest ideas on the construction of the pyramid are perfectly reasonable and are based on good science and not the ideas of cranks. Even a sceptic like you should not find them too outlandish to take on board. We are not talking about beings from the stars here but of the existence of an Egyptian 'star cult.' If you don't check out these ideas then how can you form a balanced opinion. Your "burial mount" ideas may be correct but it is wrong to only look at one theory. You have to explore them all before making your mind up.


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[ramonth]

Have to look at all the possibilities before making up your mind, huh? Consider how large our deep space radio observatories are. You are looking for a function- yet you fail to even consider a logical explanation. Early expeditions into the interiors revealed radioactive signatures, yet nothing radioactive was found. The placement and structure would be ideal for a beacon/communications device. As for launching souls into space- why would they want to? From where did they get an idea that these objects could do that? Perhaps from watching others communicate with others? Hearing the voices, with no bodies. And to tell you the truth- NO ONE has showed that early man could have built them. So we are left with a construct that was built by some advanced race. Abadoned. Early man was trying to contact the "GODS" that had left them. Show/tell me another plausible reason for why? Only the Ruler/God was buried there. Why? Because he was a 'God' and therefore belonged with the "Gods" who had left. Complete theory. No gaps, no missing function.
ramonth

[Spadge]

Ramonth

With all due respect Ramonth, I have considered your opinion but I am afraid that I do not see the 'Giant Communication Beacons' idea as being logical at all.

Pyramid building was an evolutionary process which the Egyptians learned and there are plenty of other pyramids around in Egypt that were built earlier which in no way measure up to the Great Pyramid and its neighbours. The Great Pyramid was the culmination of this evolution. The later pyramids of the 5th Dynasty went back to being spectacularly unimpressive in comparison. Why would this be? Surely your space beings didn't run out of money when building them?

You mentioned the gold capstone. (and for some reason the Jean Michelle Jarre concert of Dec 31st 1999) Yes,it is pretty much agreed that the Great Pyramid could have been topped by a capstone of gold. But why you should see that as evidence of a transmission device is beyond me. The pyramid was also once faced with gleaming limestone which was later removed by Arabs. Both the limestone and the gold cap (if it existed at all) were simply decorative.

We know from the pyramid texts that the constellation of Orion was very imporatant to the Egyptians. It was discovered in the 1960s that one of the strange shafts which travel from the King's Chamber (the so called Star Shafts) pointed to Orion's Belt. Orion's belt is known to be the constellation of the god Osiris. This is not in dispute and this view is held by the world's formost expert on the pyramids, Dr Eiddon Edwards.

However, it has only recently been discovered that the southern shaft of the Queen's Chamber pointed at the star of Sirius (the star of Isis), Osisris's consort.

The other two remaining pyramids built in the 4th Dynasty at Abu Ruwash and Zawayat Al Aryan were built to the South West and North East of the Giza pyramids. In exactly the same relative position as two of the other stars in the constellation of Orion, Saiph and Bellatrix.

Add to that the fact the river Nile is in the same relative position as the constallation of Orion is to the Milky Way and you are left with the fact that the ancient Egyptians were literally trying to build a representation of their heaven on earth. The three pyramids at Giza are a representation of the three stars of Orion's belt. This also explains why the third pyramid of Menkaura is smaller and slightly offset to the others. The layout of the three Giza pyramids on the ground mirror the stars of Orion's belt exactly.



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[ramonth]

I won't argue that some of the pyramids were built by egyptians- but why? just to bury a few god/kings? The sphinx is way older than the pyramids, and some of the pyramids are also very old. I think that some of the first pyramids were built not for burial or even stars but for communications. The radioactive footprint can only be accounted for if someone was using a large amount of material. Why else would they find radioactive footprints?
ramonth

[Spadge]

I am quite sure you are right when you say that the Sphinx is much older than was previously thought. Recently a geologist has pointed out that the weathering on the Sphinx has been caused by water and not by sand. His case is very impressive indeed and backed up with good science. I fail to see how anyone can dispute his conclusions. Why does this cause problems? The last time Egypt had a climate when the Sphinx could have been weathered by water was approximately 10,500 years ago. Egyptologists, not suprisingly, appear to be simply ignoring this evidence.

[Dave]

OK...here we go...
Gold is the best type of non-corroding conductor to use in electronics. Transceiver equipment is loaded with it because of it's excellent properties in relation to conduction Vs. Deterioration/corrosion. I know, I worked on Government Communications equipment for nine years. I'm not saying anything conclusive, it's just that if you wanted to know why you would place a hunk of gold atop a device....???....well???...Also remember you don't need wire to connect to an arial....that's why your car phone can have the arial stuck on your window and the cable on the inside window - no holes required! (capacitive coupling). All I'm saying about the gold top is that it MAY have been for something other than decoration....the inside wasn't decorated, why the hell do half a job by decorating the outside??? ( I at no stage said this was a comms link O.K.? )
Let's also mention the 5 mammoth slabs of granite or "Spirit Stones" that are mounted above the Kings(?) Chamber too. Then there's Faradays visit to the Pyramid and how he noticed the electrical charge that built up in his drinking bottle when under these stones. He built a crude static collector by wrapping the bottle in damp newspaper and was amazed at the amount of charge that built up in the device.
I don't know what the function of the Pyramid is and I don't know why these things were made as they were.
As for the sphynx, it is approximated by Adam West that the Sphynx may in fact be even up to 20,000 years - old never-mind 10,000!!! Pretty mind-boggling...that's probably why so many people are having a hard time with it 'time frame' ...Theories go up the shoot, all the clever Egyptologists may perhaps fear the level of their credibility may come into question...blah blah blah.....
intelligent critics refuse to continue comment in threads like these because it's 'all gone stupid now'.....a shame, really..