What is causing this extra light source on the Moon?

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by btimsah, Apr 10, 2005.

  1. btimsah Registered Senior Member

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    Okay, I've found 2 (two) strange images today.

    Note in the image below, the sun is brilliant and lit to the upper right.

    However, to the lower left corner of the limb is a orange light on the horizon!

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    coooooooool

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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Looks like a reflection off some gold foil on the lander.
     
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  5. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    maybe a nearby star
     
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  7. Lucas Registered Senior Member

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    I think that I know what the light is: two selenites making a bonfire! Ohhh
     
  8. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    mars. light from the sun reflecting off of mars.
     
  9. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    Looks like more lens flare to me.
     
  10. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    It's obviously a studio light from inside area 51!!!

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  11. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    A reflection from the object which was taking the picture.
     
  12. btimsah Registered Senior Member

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    Actually, the light to the lower left CAUSES A REFLECTION to appear on the upper right of the lander.

    And if the light to the lower left is a reflection, then so is the sun...

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  13. btimsah Registered Senior Member

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    Some sound stage
     
  14. btimsah Registered Senior Member

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    Here let me help you guys out. Use the list below and feel free to add more!

    Interesting light: Image error, reflected natural light

    Interesting structure: Rocks, or natural formation.

    Interesting craft/light: Space Debri, secret craft of our own.

    Keep reminding yourself, that if NASA never commented on it, then it must be something easily explainable. Then go out into the world and make sure that everyone believes the same thing.

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  15. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Btimsah please observe that centred on 'your' light are two further circular patterns. There is a further orange light similar to, but fainter than 'your' light on the right hand side of the LM - on the LM, not against the sky. Put it all together - lens flare.
     
  16. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    In fact, in both images you can see a number of concentric circles of light around the "mystery light source". Definitely lens flare.
     
  17. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Well, I hate to put a "definite" label on anything.

    But, it sure looks like lens flare.
    And, if youwork on the premise that it is lens flare, you can make a few predictions:
    - The Sun or another strong light source must be shining on the lens.
    - There are likely to be other light circles in the image, with centres all on the line between the first noted light and the Sun.
    - The intensity of each circle should roughly correspond to the size of the circle, with small circles being brighter

    Now, when all those predictions bear out, lens flare is looking like a pretty reasonable explanation.

    What do you think, btimsah? Is Lens Flare a reasonable explanation?
     
  18. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    I think that the lens-flare-line should also go through the centre of the frame, but that's harder to rely on since images are often cropped.

    Anyways, here's the original image with all the circles which I think are probably lens-flare outlined in red.

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    Did I miss any?
     
  19. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    You missed the other two which touch the horizon, left of the lander. They're big ones which encase the "mystery" light.
     
  20. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    btimsah:

    I'm interested to know your reaction to our conclusions. Has it changed your mind about this image? Do you think you'll be less ready to jump to conclusions in future?
     
  21. cotton Resident Pirate Registered Senior Member

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    Why would the sun be that bright though? Seems very strange, perhaps touched up in photoshop.
     
  22. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks James.

    Cotton, the brightness of the Sun in a photo depends on the exposure setting of the camera. In this case, it looks like the photo was exposed to capture the lunar lander well. This makes the Sun way over-exposed.
     
  23. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Cotton have you ever tried looking directly at the sun, without one hundred miles of atmosphere in the way? I thought not.
     

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