Freudian Paradise.......?

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  1. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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  3. A Canadian Why talk? When you can listen? Registered Senior Member

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    You know someones going to make millions on that Lap Pillow....

    Not so crazy, now is it.

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    Anyone wanna buy me that pillow for x-mas.

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    Geee, truthseeker, if you think that stuff is bad, then you havn't even come close to the tip of the iceberg.
     
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  5. Paris_Lennon Registered Member

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    hahaha, wow...I was wondering when somebody in Japan would come out with a male version of the arm pillow that was the big craze. I couldn't see paying 90 dollars for a leg pillow (it didn't even look that comfortable) but hey, more power to em if they got the money

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    What are you talking about? Freud is happy, look at him go!

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    That's what I call informative!

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  9. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    LOL! You guys crack me up!

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    I'm surprised this is still not in the Cesspool...!

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  10. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    Says something about a stolid culture.
    A Kansas inbred would have 'invented' a labia pillow, pubes and all.

    Truthseeker:
    Exaggerating?
    How so?

    Its a lap, for fuck's sake.
    Which is nothing what with tits no longer censored and humans fucking no longer something to gape at.
    Sex has become so obvious and littered its no longer interesting without all the games and so fussed over that porn is not as titillating as a lap made of polyurethane.

    Shows like "My Messy Bedroom" for one, are fucking annoying.
    And they're feminists, to boot.
    So you get a mongrel theology on sex and republican chauvinism, stupid women.

    Not really.

    Seeing his theories made common would lose all its charm and he’d gasp at the obvious as obvious- he’d have nothing to talk about.
     
  11. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Interesting perspective....
    I haven't thought about it that way (about the Freudian part...)
     
  12. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps you'd like to tell me why you feel a lap is an exaggeration?
     
  13. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think that is an exageration in itself. Altough I do think that humankind is quite focused on that (sex). As long as we still have other interests, there's not really any exageration.
     
  14. A Canadian Why talk? When you can listen? Registered Senior Member

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    Sex AND Killing

    All part of our human nature...
     
  15. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    Gendanken,

    What does it say exactly? That they have limits? You realize just how disgusting the Japanese can be about sexual toys and pornography? Their only limits seem to be an aversion for pubic hair.

    Damnit. I've been scouring the net for a little while trying to find a goddamned pussy pillow. I know there is one but I just can't find it.

    Anyway, it's good that you quoted invented, because 'inventing' the pussy pillow would be like 'discovering' America.

    And what's so degenerate about it? Think about it. You could comb it and braid it and lubricate it and hug it and kiss it and call it Shirley.

    You know, I wonder what inbreds from other backwater states might 'invent'. I'd much rather sleep on a realistic pussy pillow than an a bunghole pillow. With ass hairs and all. And real mung harvested from the finest mung donors.

    It seems to me that this is more a matter of submission and power than sex. Did you look at the picture? Don't know about you, but to me the pose of the legs oozes submission.

    Very Japanese.
    Very feminine.

    And I do wonder what they have under those skirts. (Each comes with a red and a black skirt you know...) I believe that I've heard that it's unlawful to show pubic hair in Japan, so maybe it's a shaved beaver. Either that or totally absent, but knowing the japanese (as I don't really), I bet theres at least a slit or something. Something indicative of the vagina if not the real thing.

    Never heard of it. Does it have nudity? The occasional dildo?


    Truthseeker,

    If Freud were alive, he'd probably have a penis pillow.
     
  16. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Am I the only one who thinks it's just a frickin' pillow?

    All of you:
    Repeat after me:

    I will break my addiction to internet pornography, I will break my addiction to internet pornography.

    I will have sex with another human, I will have sex with another human, I will have sex with another human.

    Nothing, it's molded polyurathane. It's not a sex toy, it's the over-priced equivalent to wrapping oneself in blankets tightly enough to exert a little pressure against your skin.

    Jeez. Haven't any of you ever slept with your head in someone's lap? It's very comfy if you're comfortable with that person.

    Dear lord how do you people manage to function? Life is actually not a Hobbesnean hell in which we can only conquer or perish

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    The Japanese have sat kneeling for hundreds of years. If it were an American company, the legs would be splayed with a hand dangling about three inches away from the crotch:

    How you dooin'

    Of course the whole thing is quite funny. People are so starved for interpersonal warmth that they make this product, then it is greeted with such Machiavellian interpretations!
     
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    so ahh...is it working out?
     
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    Applause from an appreciative audience.

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  19. slotty Colostomy-its not my bag Registered Senior Member

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    Yep, i'm with you here Xev. Some people would fuck a spider, if they knew which pair of legs to open

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  20. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    Xev,

    No. I think that Gendanken feels the same way.

    Hand GOOD!
    Other human BAD!

    I never said it was a sex toy. I just said that I bet that it has at least a slit or an indentation or something indicative of a vagina. And why not? It's designed to be as realistic as possible. Down to the wrinkles in the skirt and panty lines on the ass.

    What do panty lines have to do with the comfort of a lap, exactly? Where exactly is grandpa's hand as he takes his nap? Hmm? And what's it doing there? They show his hand on the knees in the pic, but we all know what he's really grabbing. And why.

    We all know that all we'd have to do is look over in the closet to find all the real sex toys. Rape comics. Whatnot. My point is that it was somewhat ironic to praise the japanese as a stolid culture as if this lap pillow demonstrates that they aren't perverted. The lap pillow isn't even the tip of the japanese iceberg.

    One day at a time, Xev. One day at a time.

    You're trying to trick me.
    It won't work.
    You are evil and must be destroyed.

    I realize that. But, the Japanese have also trained submissive women for hundreds of years as well. And while there may be no real aesthetic difference in leg posture of a kneeling man compared to a kneeling woman, those legs scream submission to me.

    Just wait til they make the manly model with a bulging larger then life package. Where would your hands be while you rested your head on Hercules' lap?
     
  21. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Gustav:
    I managed to leave the house today!

    invert nexus:
    Oh, I missed that. Hell yeah, the Japanese are sick bastards. Stolid maybe in their public attitude, but perhaps that's why they are such sick freaks in private.
    I have to blame them at least partially for the decline in quality of American porn.

    Come here and let me give you a hug!
    *Hide the knife, hide the knife...*

    That doesn't make sense to me - you just said there was no difference!

    To an extent you're right. The purpose of a humanoid form like that - be it a Real Doll or a Boyfriend Arm, is to provide the illusion of human contact without the complexity or conflict of real human interaction. So it is going to seem nonconfrontational at least and submissive at most.

    I mean, hells yeah, men are creepy little shits. But I don't really agree with your interpretation.

    Oh, your hands would be at your sides or in your lap.
     
  22. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    Xev,

    You know, I've always had a slight hankering for the oriental women, but their porn gets old rather quick. How many tame (or not so tame) rape fantasies can you watch. I've never seen a japanese porn where the woman wasn't acting like she was being raped and in sheer pain and humiliation.

    Of course, I'm no expert, and my experience in this regard is rather limited... despite whatever you may think.

    I said that there may be no difference. I don't really know. I haven't seen any kneeling man japanese legs to compare with. Maybe they would carry that air of subservience as well. Maybe its merely a western bias as kneeling being a form of worship or subservience.

    A lot of the body language is missing without the upper body. As you say, the japanese have knelt in this way for hundreds and hundreds of years and this is nothing extraordinary for their culture. To determine subservience one would need to see the set of the shoulders and the neck. Where the arms and hands are. The eyes. So much of the body language is portrayed by the rest of the body rather than the legs.

    So, perhaps you're right. Maybe these legs are just a form of rorschach test. Western attitudes on kneeling must be taken into account before merely calling me a misogynist though.

    My hands would have to be tied or wrapped around the hilt of my dagger buried in his chest. I'll pass on resting my head on Hercules lap, thank you very much. The question was where your hands would be. And if you say at your sides or on your lap, then very well.

    You know, I've had this discussion with someone once. About resting your head on a girls breast or lap and not getting lost in sexuality. And, of course, there are times that it could be just a peaceful and resting thing. A moment of closeness without an carnality involved. Perhaps reading to one another. Or just talking and looking at the sky.

    But, other times it might just turn into a brutal fuck fest.

    It all depends on circumstances, doesn't it?
     
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    invert nexus:
    "Oriental" is considered offensive.
    I'm not sure why.

    Teehee, it's like the money shot in American porn.
    I'd shrug at this point. Hetero porn is generally pretty icky - of course there are exceptions, like the Golden Age of American porn and German softcore porn, but there's an ugliness to most of it. Consider how popular the borderline violent or BSDM-garbage has become.
    It's like we're overcompensating for how weak and sentimental our culture is, by making our perceptions of sex so much meaner.

    Or it could be just the nature of porn. Perhaps a male perspective is different, but having sex is sort of a "get to know you" type thing.

    My boss and I had a conversation a couple days ago along these lines. Not porn but sex in general - anyways it's of relevence because he brought up Pavlovian conditioning. Porn is basically setting up certain "bells" to trigger orgasm. It would seem that the more intense the ring, here, the more effective it would be.

    But then I shouldn't admit to either schitzo-analyzing my porn or to watching enough to have a sense of historical era!

    Now the Japanese do take this to the extreme. In fact I think Japanese porn is partially responsible for the decline of quality in American porn.
    Does that make them more honest or more fucked-up?

    I think you are a connoisseur of violent de-flowering virgin rape hentai and that I need another Tequila Sunrise.

    Which is itself kinda weird. I wouldn't wrap my arms around a fake male torso...

    Which must make them flexible bastards. Took judo classes once - it was uncomfortable as hell to kneel for more than a minute or two.
    But for the Japanese, I understand kneeling to be their equivalent of our sitting cross-legged.

    ??!
    I never called you a misogynist.

    No, really. I've fallen asleep with my head in a man's lap and not tried to grab his dick or anything.
    Now that said, I find it impossible to *cuddle* without wanting sex.

    What inspires lust in that situation, for me, would be the touching and exciting of skin. But you don't really have much contact when you are just resting your head.

    It also depends on the person. With some men, you can't think of a use for them but sex. Other men, you respect them more, you can want to share things with them.

    I bet it's more or less the same for a man.
     
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