Your IQ

[Rubiks]

What is your IQ? I did mine at www.iqtest.com, and i got a score at 137, for age 13. I am an Highly -not average- Genius :) :D :p

[spuriousmonkey]

My IQ is 320 on the Richter scale.

[Epox]

Hmmm, you gotta pay to get your damn results! :(

[spuriousmonkey]

Hmmm, you gotta pay to get your damn results! :(

Maybe that is the real IQ test!?!

[Thor]

I hate IQ tests. People think they're a test of intelligence but all they are is a test on how well you do IQ tests...simple as that.

Did one like a year and a half ago, got 142. Probably smarter now...actually, I am in college...so probably lower

[Rappaccini]

Why do people make these threads?

Is it some kind of intellectual masturbation?

[Walker]

......yep.

[Dreamwalker]

Yes, it is Rappaccini.
While I am here, my officially tested IQ is 162. I got a psychologist to support this. :D

(Uh yeah, that feels great. Bow down to my almighty brain) :cool:

[spuriousmonkey]

Yes, it is Rappaccini.
While I am here, my officially tested IQ is 162. I got a psychologist to support this. :D


I don't have an IQ and fortunately I also don't have a psychologist.

;)

[Dreamwalker]

Too bad about the lack of IQ spurious, without you can not participate in this intellectual masturbation. ;)

What´s so bad about a psychologist?
If I had a psychiatrist, now that would be unfortunate. :D

[Dreamwalker]

This is nothing, just read on. :cool:

(Never post when your computer crashs)

[c20H25N3o]

Intelligence is subjective. My girlfriend is highly intelligent but she would perform terribly in an IQ test. Her gift of intelligence is displayed in her ability to empathise and say the right things at the right time and to put my stupid ass in its place sometimes.

[jadedflower]

IQ levels never change... it's a logic thing, not smartness.. =P

[Dreamwalker]

Hey, who really cares about IQ?

Just look at it from another perspective, my IQ is as high as that of two idiots combined. :D

Does that make me smart and/or reasonable, even intelligent? Who knows :confused:

I do not give a f**k about it anyway. You cannot judge people because of some stupid test, you have to live with them to make assumptions about them. :D

[curioucity]

Let'say......... at least IQ test ease me of my boredom a bit....

[jinchilla]

Dreamwalker, I think what monkey was implying is that one goes to the doctor usually when one is ill. And I've never heard of a routine mental checkup. ;)

[Logically Unsound]

well if you look at IQ tests they are all pretty irrelevant.
if your good at IQ tests then you are intelligent, but not necessarily clever.
i mean, clever is like being a hard b*s*a*d who can
"walk into a room with 5 guys and only one bullet and come out alive" (sky advert)
whereas intelligent is like someone who weight trains every day but never kicks the *h*t out of anyone.
NOOne is gonnna walk up to you when your exactly 25 years and 354 days old and say
"hey, kid, if you dont tell me what this shape looks like if its upside down and painted red im gonna come round your s*i*t* little house and stamp on your dalilas"
so there *crosses arms and looks haughtliy away*

[Dreamwalker]

Jinchilla and whoever cares

I have never taken a mental checkup, it was just a public IQ test under supervision of an educational psychologist.
(at least I hope that this is the correct translation. It signifies someone who studies the psyche of people but not necessary mental illness)

[Logically Unsound]

yeah i had a clinical pshycologist once. there the people who deal with people who are ill with mental things but arent pshycos.

[jinchilla]

Dream... --> ;) <-- ... A joke. Yes at your expense but display your prowess and recognize it as such. As I've stated before, and will again, I'd rather spend my time in the company of a kind "retard" than with a spiteful (or insecure) genius. IQ=wit? na

LU, you knocking us psychos?

[Logically Unsound]

No I know some wonderful pshycos, they are te sanest people i know (..) and i must say in my defence that i did not once knock anybody, because if you fall over you might get, yknow that scrapiness on your hand that stings loads and you only seem to get when you're about 5.
"Bling"

[Dreamwalker]

I know you´re only joking Jinchilla. Obviously I am not that serious about it myself. :D

I hate written text, it´s so hard to transmit emotions with it. ;)

[wesmorris]

so you know, my iq.. it's huge. it's SO damned big.. it makes me...

*spews*

goddamnit that always happens.

sorry folks.

*compensates by buying you jewelry*

[Logically Unsound]

... thank you....
can i have the jewelry with the highest street price cause i dont wear it myself.

[Rappaccini]

What´s so bad about a psychologist?

... crazy!

... and to put my stupid ass in its place sometimes.

Where's that?






I have an IQ of 7.25, slightly basic, on the pH scale.

[path]

Mine is 3.9 but I like to round it up to a solid 4

[ChildOfTheMind]

Intellegence cannot be measured by a test...

[fireguy_31]

I took the test without reading or reasoning the questions (just clicked true or false as fast as I could at random - finished test in 28 sec.) and recieved a score of 94 - average.

Yeah, IQ tests are quite reliable..........................

[Dreamwalker]

Somewhere in human science there was a link to an IQ test, I just marked answers randomly and still got 100 points (repeatedly) perhaps it was the lowest possible score? May keep people from getting depressed. :D

[fireguy_31]

6 points?.... I missed the depression threshold by 6 points? Sons 'o bitches.

Where's my crack pipe. ;)

[apendrapew]

Last time I scored 133. God damn. I'm beginning to doubt that 100 is average. Are there any people here that have scored 100 or below?

[Dreamwalker]

Hopefully not, can´t you read? this is an intelligent community :D
At least it was. Would like to know why it is no longer written anywhere on the site. It was displayed before the change in the design. :confused:
Join the cybercult! Chaos rules! sow discord!
Perhaps you should ask in the cesspool. That is obviously the unintelligent community. ;)

[SwedishFish]

100 is only average when you take into account people we like to forget about. they would most likely be in institutions. considering the rest, i would hope that average is about 150. or lordy it should be.
work in retail for a little while...you won't be surprised by the low average anymore.

i've never taken an IQ test. probably won't get around to doing it either because...who cares? my brother's IQ is 206. he's definitely smarter than i am but not by too much. although i couldn't read books until 6 while he could read at 4.

[shadarlocoth]

on that iq test there is a max score of 167 if you get them all right.... got it...

as for my first IQ test its was 164 in third grade... and had a vocab of a 9th grader...

kinda sucks though still read slow then crap and cant spell because of dislexea... they never figured out i had it tell highschool...

[fadingCaptain]

When I was in 3rd grade i took an iq test and got 80/80. They talked to my parents who freaked out and put me in all the gifted/honors classes and crap. I think my parents thought they had hit a goldmine. Not quite. Its all been downhill from there. :)

[cosmictraveler]

I have no IQ , I only have thoughts.

[Tuner Equalizer]

IQ tests will never measure the advanced areas of a person's intelligence. As C20H25N3o stated, his girlfriend is able to say the right thing at the right time. She would be the person to WRITE an IQ test for tactfulness (HA -- a new area of IQ testing is born); she would not TAKE the test. IQ tests do not measure the most advanced cutting edge intelligence, only indications that cutting edge intelligence exists.

[SwedishFish]

there are other types of iq tests i think. me mum, who is a teacher, says they now measure different types of intelligence, such as musical, visual, etc.

[cma]

My IQ is 182.
Oh, and I am 13... I was 11 when I took the test.

[SwedishFish]

doesn't matter how old you are. your iq never changes.

[spuriousmonkey]

My IQ is 5,943 and rising every day (10 points on average!)

[MiTo]

high enough to surprise me ;) however, what can you do with high IQ if you dont want to use it, or to say if you are lazy #"% =)"#% and everything you do is because you force yourself to do it?
Not to mention sleep deprivation, then I cant even think much straight :)

[Facial]

My IQ is negative. -2.7182818, absolute magnitude, to be precise.

To note : I think everyone here is roughly equally intelligent. Unless you can beat Marilyn vos Savant in puzzle-solving, or join the Giga society by solving the labyrinth problems and such, I would consider you to be above normal. Go try it!

[phlogistician]

My IQ is 14.5% ABV, .... and has a rather nice reddish tint.

[Nuttyfish]

u have to pay, therefore it is worthless

[p0l0mint]

IQ Test Labs - take this 15 minute quiz and get your score and 25 pages of analysis for free.
http://www.intelligencetest.com

[Stryder]

Heres my point about IQ tests, in a format that some might actually understand:

Lets say you have a 2Ghz processor computer and a 10Mhz processor computer, This represents a Genius (being the 2Ghz) and a fool (being the 10Mhz). They are both given the same equation, both will eventually come up with the correct answer, however the 10Mhz system takes alot longer (200 times longer)

Current IQ tests will premote the Genius and Fool their status, however in reality both did have the correct answer so the test itself is flawed.

Another Example of another problem:
A rat is placed into a Maze to find his way out, eventually he does and is rewarded. The steps are repeated with the same maze over and over again, eventually the Rat knows the most direct route out of the maze through an Enforced reoccurance of having to find it's way out.

This is a reference of those that continually do IQ tests will increase their IQ in future tests, as long as they keep their understanding of how to deal with puzzles (and mazes) resident through Enforcement.

However it doesn't mean they are suddenly a world leading Physicist thats reinventing rocket science into a new form.

[supermax]

infact Q.I test on the net test only one inteliggence but their is more that one.
for exmaple one of my friend make a Q.I test and got an horriful grade but if you make him listen to any song he will be able to play it to the guitare after with out the tab so I guest you need to be inteligenmt and got a good memory so Q.I test doesn'T alwasy said true I am pretty sure

[Rappaccini]

Why is the dumbest shit always posted in IQ threads?

[Stryder]

Btw, I know Supermax doesn't have English as a first language so don't think he's posting to look "Kool" in an I.Q. thread.

[Blue_UK]

My IQ (measured professionally at school) was 124, but after university (drugs) it dropped to 106 (measured by BBC test the nation).

I hope it's not too perminant!

[Rappaccini]

As I stated...

[Alpha]

doesn't matter how old you are. your iq never changes.Yes it does. My IQ has steadily increased.
Current IQ tests will premote the Genius and Fool their status, however in reality both did have the correct answer so the test itself is flawed.In reality it's not like that. If someone gets the answer faster it's because they have a more intelligent/efficient thinking process. We're all running on the same hardware.
This is a reference of those that continually do IQ tests will increase their IQ in future tests, as long as they keep their understanding of how to deal with puzzles (and mazes) resident through Enforcement.As long as the puzzles are different it doesn't matter. If you can learn how to think better from doing puzzles then good for you, but that doesn't make it any less valid. Such thinking skills, if they can apply to any puzzle and therefore IQ test, can also apply to other areas as well.
However it doesn't mean they are suddenly a world leading Physicist thats reinventing rocket science into a new form.Of course not, that requires specialized knowledge which they're not going to suddenly have out of nowhere. Knowledge is not intelligence though.

For a more accurate test for those with a high IQ, I'd suggest http://www.highiqsociety.org/noflash/nonmembers/iqtests.htm

As several people have pointed out, IQ tests only measure certain types of intelligence.

[apendrapew]

Alpha -

"In reality it's not like that. If someone gets the answer faster it's because they have a more intelligent/efficient thinking process. We're all running on the same hardware."

It's a weird thing because our brains aren't so well characterized as hardware as they are firmware because as the brain learns and experiences, its cells change physically. Our software intermingles with our hardware so much that it doesn't seem to exist. Our outer world becomes our inner world.

If we were running on the same hardware, our intelligences would be much more similar. But actually, brains do vary quite a bit. Some are very heavy, some are light. Some are large in volume, some are small. And those are only the very most obvious features. Do those characteristics make a difference? Probably not a huge difference in everyday life, but yes, I'm most certain they do make some difference.

But you bring up a good point about intelligence depending on the brain's software and how well it knows how to use its resources. This raises an interesting question. How do some people learn to use their brains so exceptionally well, while others are playing with their poopoo outside the 711?

One obvious answer is exercise. This creates good LTP paths which make it easier to go from one part of a thought to another.

Better ROM.. PROM.

Maybe their brains are more adapted to self-optimize their functions. Kind of like some processor chips. Even though some processors might be identical in every way, ones that have more built-in commands will perform better because there's less need for "instruction" bits.

After that, it gets harder to think of reasons.

[dissolute]

I'm an insane psychotic killer who has decided to kill all people who have IQs over 100, thus making me the most intelligent person in the world.

[Rappaccini]

That's nice.

[§outh§tar]

Brings to mind the story of Charlie and his lab rat, Algernon...

..oh the memories!

[curioucity]

I wonder how I can get 148.........

[Closet Philosopher]

My IQ on this test was 137, it is always the same. I don't think anyone would admit it if they had a below average IQ.

[Closet Philosopher]

Oh, here is the result: http://www.iqtest.com/report.html?uid=636c6f6e65645f73686565707340796168 6f6f2e636f6d-176-1090529040

[MewSkitty]

I done an on-line one that said that my I.Q. is 167, but I think it's inaccurate because I'm 15 and only made one usable idea to make an antimatter engine and two thoerys on the universe that confuse my science teachers. If anyone wants to know my thoery on the shape of the universe just PM me.

[Alpha]

I think it's inaccurate because I'm 15 and only made one usable idea to make an antimatter engine and two thoerys on the universe that confuse my science teachers.That doesn't matter. Think of your IQ more as your potential intelligence (in some areas).

[philocrazy]

hahahahaha aliens they do exist!!!
hahaha my iq please is=
thank you
Alpha think of me as ur cosmos
cause the universe just got bigger
only kidding!!!!!!
peace peace peace peace peace
peace peace peace peace peace
peace peace peace peace peace
peace peace peace peace peace
i like your jokes alpha
tell me about your brain function please

Philosopher Philocrazy

[Closet Philosopher]

sometimes I wonder...

[Facial]

My IQ is still negative... and decreasing. Last check, -26.

[MewSkitty]

Here's something I read off a shirt "My I.Q. test came back negative"

[NightFall]

according to the test today i am 139. i ate my wheaties.. errr... oreo o's... this mornin. ;)

[MewSkitty]

I only eat one meal a day but I still can think good even without all that enegry. One time I went four days without eating, but that was about 5 years ago, right now I'm 105 lbs.

[OverTheStars]

138

[NightFall]

my IQ is lower than my weight. hey that gives me a goal. sure hope i find a way to get skinner cuz lord knows im not getting any smarter. haha.

[sargentlard]

Last test I took had me in the double digits and near moron level.

I always do terrible at those tests :(

[Closet Philosopher]

Lol, Nightfall, I should do the same...

[Rappaccini]

I done an on-line one that said that my I.Q. is 167, but I think it's inaccurate because I'm 15 and only made one usable idea to make an antimatter engine and two thoerys on the universe that confuse my science teachers. If anyone wants to know my thoery on the shape of the universe just PM me.
I only eat one meal a day but I still can think good even without all that enegry. One time I went four days without eating, but that was about 5 years ago, right now I'm 105 lbs.


You're neither funny nor cute, and your grammar needs work.

[Closet Philosopher]

I agree.

[Facial]

I second that. Mewskitty stop your jokes - they're lame.

[Hypercane]

one forty two. but iq is nothing compared to people's real intelligence. :)

[OverTheStars]

It is said that breastmilk raises the IQ level a few points.

[╘ninjamonkey]

:( iqtest.com told me me iq only 67 me noes iq :m: than dat

[invert_nexus]

It is said that breastmilk raises the IQ level a few points.

Lactating or drinking it? Even women? Source?

[apendrapew]

Drinking the collustrum has been shown to increase IQ a few points on average. So if you're going to have kids, it's a good idea to make sure it's breastfed.

Also having a few cups of coffee before the test has shown to increase scores too.

An interesting note: researchers have found that babies that develop in the womb during the winter months are more likely to be schitzopherenic because of terretogens. I'm sure it also has a hand in determining intelligence because schitzophrenia is a result of many brain abnormalities which cannot be isolated. The point I'm making is basically:

There's an optimal way of doing everything. If parents would realize this and take advantage of everything science has taught us, the next generation kids will have a lot fewer health issues and problems to overcome that could have been prevented.

[Athelwulf]

Im 16 and mi IQ iz 151. I iz smart. I iz smartr then all ov yoo!

(Btw, I'm not joking about my IQ. :D)

[Encicon]

I'm 175 :D :D

[wesmorris]

The son of my partner at work is in 7th grade and score 27 on the ACT which he was allowed to take for being smart and stuff. And stuff. Scored 30 in math. I'm impressed by the young man. ;)

[hug-a-tree]

What does it matter what your IQ is? Do people just want to show off or something? "Oh look at me, my IQ is higher then yours!" It doesn't really matter how high your IQ is, it matters what you do with your knowledge.
You can know all the math, all the science but still be a 40 year old living at home with your mom. Or you could be me a B average student who plans on going to college even though i'm probably going to have a heck of a time there trying to pass my classes.

[spuriousmonkey]

My IQ is 4.55 in metric units and 333.7767 in miles per gallon.

[hug-a-tree]

My IQ is 4.55 in metric units and 333.7767 in miles per gallon.

Your so cool, I swear.

[spuriousmonkey]

Nerds, geeks and dorks can't be cool.
;)

[hug-a-tree]

Nerds, geeks and dorks can't be cool.
;)

Ok then awesome! I dunno, your great. :D

[spuriousmonkey]

I would have to seriously disagree with that and I have acquired a cohort of loyal haters who agree with me.
:o

[hug-a-tree]

I would have to seriously disagree with that and I have acquired a cohort of loyal haters who agree with me.
:o


:eek: Well that's too bad.

[spuriousmonkey]

In a way I think it is good. You have to learn at one point in life that you cannot please everybody and it is even better when you don't for your own sake. After all, it is more difficult to say no than yes.

These important lessons in life are not reflected in any IQ test of course. I think that is a serious problem with them.

But it is as was said by the inventor of the IQ test (Alfred Binet):

"This scale properly speaking does not permit the measure of the intelligence, because intellectual qualities are not superposable, and therefore cannot be measured as linear surfaces are measured, but are on the contrary, a classification, a hierarchy among diverse intelligences; and for the necessities of practice this classification is equivalent to a measure." [1]

Courtesy of wikipedia (don't you just love it how you can find anything there that your own memory supposed to have but has temporarily forgotten?). He used it to spot students who needed extra help at school, not to measure intelligence.

[hug-a-tree]

Yes, that's true. Like what bono said "You have to let people down." Because you can't worry about pleasing everybody, because then whats the point of having your own views. They're like wasted.

[spuriousmonkey]

This is what wikipedia says about online IQ tests:
Online tests

Although online IQ tests have become wildly popular with the explosion of the internet in recent years, they are highly inaccurate. Comparing results among a large set of people shows a common factor: most scores are above 110. However, 100 is the average score for an IQ test by definition, in addition online IQ tests do not create an equal distribution of scores both above and below the average. Such tests measure very few people in the 70 to 90 range, and hence create a strong upward distortion. Such an upward distortion might however be reasonable in the skewed population of those online and interested in IQ. In addition, many of these websites do not show the results immediately but instead attempt to sell certificates showing the results.

Another theory of why these sites give such high IQ scores, is that if one received an IQ score that rated lower than average, they would be unlikely to tell their friends about the site, and the site would receive fewer hits.

Experts would generally not put much faith in the validity of these tests. All most websites want are viewers, not necesserly caring whether their information is accurate.

That kind of agrees with what Dreamwalker said. He gave random answers to the IQ test and got a score of 100 which is supposed to be the average score for the population. That shouldn't be possible.

[Xerxes]

Nonsense, Spurious. Don't you know that the majority of people on the internet are geniuses?

[MewSkitty]

Unlike most of the people online, I'm going to tell the truth about the IQ results I got along with my psychological. My IQ was 111 (I'm 16 your old) and the percentage was that I'm in only the top 30% of the world population. Yah, it's low, but I don't care anymore. I stopped caring about everything a few months ago.

[purple_hairstreak]

My IQ is -56,974. I'm so stupid, I'm a genius!

[hug-a-tree]

Unlike most of the people online, I'm going to tell the truth about the IQ results I got along with my psychological. My IQ was 111 (I'm 16 your old) and the percentage was that I'm in only the top 30% of the world population. Yah, it's low, but I don't care anymore. I stopped caring about everything a few months ago.

Aw, come on I bet mines like 45. Ha ha.

[spuriousmonkey]

111 is above average. So you don't need extra help at school according to the founder of the IQ test. congrats.

45? you belong to 0.0002 - 0.04% of the population. You are special! ;)

[hug-a-tree]

Aw, thanks! =) Your right, I am special. ha ha

[water]

Note to hug-a-tree:

Check your private messages, upper right corner.

[Dreamwalker]

Any idea what drugs I was on when I posted on the first page of this thread?

[spuriousmonkey]

Mushrooms and vodka.

[poliwog]

108, which is about 100 points higher than 98% percent of the school I go to, that includes the teachers.

[injus5]

Dont they have places where u can take accual IQ tests instead of online ones?

[leopold99]

too bad it asks for your email address

[Roman]

Who needs an IQ when you got 8 balls?

[Islamsmylife]

I took a few IQ test before but I dont agree with the results. Well I didnt do real bad slightly above average and I've always been an average student in school but I think that there is a difference between theory and knowledge versus understanding and application and regurgatation of information (for test) versus manipulation of information (in life). Many people can deal in theories but cannot deal in real life. Why do you think so many business men dropped out of school. They become Americas millioniares while the "smart" MBA students work for them so who is actually smarter.

Second I think true intelligence is determined by the decisions one makes based off of the information he acquires. The decisons one makes makes him wise, the information on acquires makes him knowledeable.

[spuriousmonkey]

What do you think the IQ test is?

[Odin2006]

When I got my IQ tested 5 years ago it was 135 (I'm 19, turning 20 in a month).

[Pi-Sudoku]

What´s so bad about a psychologist?
If I had a psychiatrist, now that would be unfortunate. :D

Having a Psychologist means you can't afford a Psychiatrist

[Pi-Sudoku]

The BBC ran an IQ test ages ago, they fucked up and over 65's got an average IQ of 132

[nicholas1M7]

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reason: Verbal diarrhea

[duendy]

What do you think the IQ test is?
a bias, oppressive pile of pseudo-superior nonesense which creates conflicts between those who imagine tey, or their 'race/individuals' are 'IQ-superior' to other 'races/individuals'

get over this silly test. throw it in te trashcan...YESTERday!!:
THRIVEnet - Darwinistic Elitism is Idiotic
www.thrivenet.com/articles/iqidiocy.html

[spuriousmonkey]

It is a test to assess who needs extra assistance at school.

[cooljayman]

IQ tests don't mean anything. I tested 145 a year ago (age 14) but does that mean I'll be more successful or more intelligent than someone else? No.

[nicholas1M7]

This IQ Test seems more in line with my self-assessment of my IQ:

http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf

It gave me 115 under the time conditions which I thought possible but less realistic given certain tendencies. But untimed it gave me 133 or 135, I can believe this more than 146 or even 139 and other crazy high scores. Even the test at the International High IQ Society gives me 131 to 136. Give them a shot, you'll get a more realistic measure of your IQ. It should dim the inflated ego effect that certain psychologists' tests have on internet societies.

I can honestly conclude from this that the majority of internet proctored IQ tests inflate scores. So it would be safe to minus about 10 to 15 points off everyone's score on an internet IQ test by an internet psychologist. Especially if untimed like the ones that give me 131 - 136.

[cole grey]

My IQ is 10...

on a scale of 1 to 10.

[Theoryofrelativity]

My IQ is 10...

on a scale of 1 to 10.

sounds like a comment someone with a big ego may make:)

[cole grey]

10 on a scale of 1 to 10 isn't saying much really, just that you are in the top 10% which isn't much to brag about. I figured the humbly placed innuendo in the statement would shine through.
I did just notice that Goethe's and Leibniz' estimated scores are NOT over 200 once the flynn effect is applied to compensate for the fact they were alive a while back, so that should make all the IQ egoists in the house breathe a little easier.

[Mrhero54]

I took an IQ test and got an 85...10 points below average! That makes me half as smart as some of you people in here! I never knew how incredibly stoopid I was! I don't even know how I manage to breath! :confused:

This thread has ruined my life :(

I might as well blow my brains out, its not like I'm using them...

Thx Sciforums

[Possumking]

Why do people make these threads?

Is it some kind of intellectual masturbation?


hahahahahahahahahahaha

[warden99]

What the feck is an IQ :eek: is that where you go to get your furniture :confused:

[Zephyr]

When a mommy brain and a daddy brain...

Oh sorry, thought you were asking about intellectual masturbation.

Wikipedia article on IQ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ

[s0meguy]

100 is only average when you take into account people we like to forget about. they would most likely be in institutions. considering the rest, i would hope that average is about 150. or lordy it should be.
work in retail for a little while...you won't be surprised by the low average anymore.

i've never taken an IQ test. probably won't get around to doing it either because...who cares? my brother's IQ is 206. he's definitely smarter than i am but not by too much. although i couldn't read books until 6 while he could read at 4.

100 is average in countries where true IQ tests are held. In the country that I live in the average is 107, and is, according to a study done in most of the west-european countries, highest in all of Europe. Some countries like Belgium have average IQ's below 100. I did some American IQ tests and they gave me about 30-40 more IQ points than Dutch IQ tests do (and English isn't even my first language). Also, I tried randomly filling in IQ tests from both countries. Most American IQ tests still give me 100 or around 100 while our IQ tests give me 70-80.

[Stryder]

I still suggest IQ tests are flawed in one sense, they usually use a time control over your answers which changes your IQ level. As a number of people have said, if you do IQ tests over and over again, you'll get faster and more accurate answers, but it doesn't neccessarily mean you are any more intelligent.

In all it just suggests you can increase your IQ result with training. If you don't usually do mathematical problems and train to do so, your IQ will go up, even if it took you 3 years to get to terms with certain equations.

The only time IQ tests are important is when they are termed "Aptitude Tests" and can occur when trying to enroll yourself in a particular position in the military, civil services or courses at colleges and universities.

[NwestJagsfan]

I took my ASVAB a few years ago to get into the Army(BIG MISTAKE), and I scored a 91. The highest you can get is 99, and they gave us 6 hours to finish, and I completed mine in a hour and a half. That was the only thing that an IQ test ever did for me, as I score upwards of 150 on regular IQ tests. One thing they don't test though, is COMMON SENSE.

[thedevilsreject]

be careful of internet ones as well people..i took an official one and it was 106 which i pretty pleased about as im only 16 yet and internet one said i had an IQ of 153 which meant i would be able to join MENSA and would be one of, if not the smartest person on sciforums which i know im not

[Zephyr]

Yeah, I took an online one that was almost all algebra and logic. I'm fairly sure I got almost all the questions right, which means it wasn't testing much 'intelligence', just 'book learning' :p

[CielChocobo]

What Stryder said.

[Kaiser Stormhawk]

I got 127 on one IQ test and 147 on another.

btw, what is the maximum IQ?

[hug-a-tree]

I think the highest IQ anyones had was 165 or something.

[s0meguy]

I think the highest IQ anyones had was 165 or something.
Not really. I know people who have an IQ much higher than that.

[s0meguy]

I got 127 on one IQ test and 147 on another.

btw, what is the maximum IQ?
Just shows how flawed IQ tests are...

[Sock puppet path]

Not really. I know people who have an IQ much higher than that.

Yeah but you don't really know me do you, more of an aquintance through sciforums

[s0meguy]

Yeah but you don't really know me do you, more of an aquintance through sciforums
Since when do sock puppets have IQs

[allisone417]

The highest IQ was Marilyn vos Savant (recognize the term?) at a beefy 230.

my own is around a feeble 132. i guess im dumb :(

[s0meguy]

According to Wikipedia you're gifted, and only a very small part of the world population has an IQ higher than/like you. 100 is always the average IQ: if it isn't, IQ tests will simply have to be changed so that it is the average IQ. Many people here are probably lieing. Geniuses simply don't brag about their IQs. Geniuses make fun of IQ.

[Sock puppet path]

Since when do sock puppets have IQs

I have replied to you using my gamma brain waves if you have an IQ over 100 you will receive the message.

[leopold99]

In the country that I live in the average is 107,
and what country might that be?

[SoLiDUS]

The only valid IQ tests online are IQTest.dk and International High IQ Society: the rest (at the very least, most of them) usually inflate scores by up to a standard deviation, which is a shitload if you know anything about psychometrics. Basically, they want to sell 'profiles'.

For what it's worth, I regularly score over two deviations.

[Absane]

I know how unreliable it is to take IQ tests online or under other situations that are not controlled... but I have taken many for mental challenges and overall they measure me at about 127. What I have noticed and read about is the tests weight verbal more than other factors. Taking these tests seperately, it seems my verbal IQ is somewhere around 100 to 116. Math/Spatial is 146. I am fairly happy with that... I never cared much for words anyway. However, for some reason the papers I wrote in English for college received good reviews from professors.. probably because I treat my first draft as my final draft so it takes me 2 hours to write one damned page, double spaced. LOL.

[Lord Dextershire]

Perhaps the reason that a majority of scores from online IQ tests are above average is that such tests have a self-selection bias toward those with above-average intelligences.

Most seem to realise that online opinion polls will have self-selection biases, and so it should not be very surprising that websites which deign to bestow a numerical value to one's intelligence will also tend to draw certain types of people disproportionate to their incidence in the general population - such as the keen and the curious.

As for the concept of IQ tests, they are crude at best. Since intelligence is modular in ways more sophisticated than we can even pretend to know, sincere IQ tests must attempt to probe a common denominator between them. Such a denominator is speculative, to put it mildly, and naturally precludes a capacity to ferret out the peculiar nuances which distinguish the great geniuses from each other.

And being able to notice and accurately identify such distinctions is not optional when attempting to seriously classify human intelligence at its highest levels. This inevitably condemns single-numbered portrayals of brilliance as absurdly simplistic imposters.

This is not, of course, to imply that such tests are entirely worthless. They are perhaps most useful (aside from entertainment value) when wishing to ascertain certain relative skills capacities in children. But childhood scores bequeath no practical relevance in adulthood. Prodigies are notorious for fading into obscurity upon coming of age.

If there were no IQ tests, how would one go about estimating the intelligence of another? We rarely know anyone else's supposed IQ, and so we are forced to infer by other means all the time. Is it a useful activity to speculate whether Leonardo was smarter than Bach? Not as useful as other things we can spend our time on - and our time, after all, is very limited and precious indeed.

[Absane]

Perhaps the reason that a majority of scores from online IQ tests are above average is that such tests have a self-selection bias toward those with above-average intelligences.

Yes, I think it is true those that are above average tend to take IQ tests more than average and below average. However, that does not explain why an average Joe scores 130+ on iqtest.com, for example. The average IQ score is, by definition, 100. So if ONLY those that were gifted took the test, they should score on average 100. The tests online inflate the scores for one of three reasons (or some or all). One, they are selling something. Maybe a package to make you even smarter than you already are! Or two, they just did not make a good test. Or three, their statistic collection methods are poor.

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As for the concept of IQ tests, they are crude at best. Since intelligence is modular in ways more sophisticated than we can even pretend to know, sincere IQ tests must attempt to probe a common denominator between them. Such a denominator is speculative, to put it mildly, and naturally precludes a capacity to ferret out the peculiar nuances which distinguish the great geniuses from each other.

However, even if IQ tests do not accurately measure intelligence they do seem to measure something that differentiates intelligent people from the less-intelligent. I for one think it is a rough messure of how efficient one's brain is. Given enough time, probably 95% of the humans alive could solve all the problems on even the toughest IQ test (assuming answers are available). That is why the tests are timed.

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[guthrie]

So, my questionis, do the IQ testing people change their tests at all? Since if 100 is supposed to be average, and for whatever reason more peopel are getting over 100, then its no longer the average...

[Absane]

So, my questionis, do the IQ testing people change their tests at all? Since if 100 is supposed to be average, and for whatever reason more peopel are getting over 100, then its no longer the average...

Good question :)

What they generally do is make a new IQ test every 6 months or something like that (I do know really know) to keep the tests both fresh and the average at 100. Over the last 50 years, they have been increasing the difficulty levels of the tests without even knowing it! So recently some guy figured it out and the only conclusion he can come up with is that people are actually getting smarter by the generation. Which when you think about it, it is true.

[guthrie]

ahhhm but this "they", that would be the proper, responsible IQ testing companies, right?

Whereas the cheap online ones would jsut rip things off and use old test questions. Therefore that woudl help contribute to the increase in IQ.

[guthrie]

smarter? How about, they are getting better at making the questiosn answerable. Have you read S J goulds "The mismeasure of Man"? He set some of his university classes to do some of the old WW1 US army tests, and they couldnt get scores commensurate with their age, because the tests were so rubbishly made, the questions assumed a great deal of prior knowledge about US society and stuff.

[Absane]

ahhhm but this "they", that would be the proper, responsible IQ testing companies, right?

Whereas the cheap online ones would jsut rip things off and use old test questions. Therefore that woudl help contribute to the increase in IQ.

Psychologists performing studies?

[Absane]

smarter? How about, they are getting better at making the questiosn answerable. Have you read S J goulds "The mismeasure of Man"? He set some of his university classes to do some of the old WW1 US army tests, and they couldnt get scores commensurate with their age, because the tests were so rubbishly made, the questions assumed a great deal of prior knowledge about US society and stuff.

How much one knows does not prove how intelligent one is. However, an intelligent person must have some knowledge to know what they are answering.

[guthrie]

Precisely. I do reccomend reading Goulds book, its very interesting to see how much it is assumed that you had to know for some of these early IQ tests. They were phrased/ drawn so badly.

[Absane]

Precisely. I do reccomend reading Goulds book, its very interesting to see how much it is assumed that you had to know for some of these early IQ tests. They were phrased/ drawn so badly.

Like on the SAT verbal, the test makers (I think Collegeboard) assumes one knows these words and should know these words. Sad thing, they teach a small subset of them in public schools and I never hear them in real life.

However knowing words is a good thing. I hate it when I know what kind of word I need but have no idea what it is... or how to find it :(

[guthrie]

Yes, thats the kind of thing. Knowledge of words is a different thing from intelligence.
But my problem at work sometimes is that i have to shift down 3 gears and stop using words with many syllables. I used the word "homogeneity" on one bloke and he staarted slagging me off....

[Absane]

Yes, thats the kind of thing. Knowledge of words is a different thing from intelligence.
But my problem at work sometimes is that i have to shift down 3 gears and stop using words with many syllables. I used the word "homogeneity" on one bloke and he staarted slagging me off....

You know, it might be a good idea if we could start a thread where people post words that are useful in society without just being words that makes everyone go "wtf?" I mean, there are a lot of simple words I just do not know that most people know. I find myself constantly opening a new tab in Firefox and pasting the word in google just to look it up... and in many posts on SF. Makes me feel stupid :eek:

[guthrie]

Really? Last book I read that had words that I didnt know was "Foucoults Pendulum".

But the problem is that i cant think of many words that are useful in general society that said general society will generally know the meaning of. I could start using a much more complex set of words and sentences, but in normal conversation that puts people off. Then words like homoegeneity, how often do you use them?

how about:
Plenitude
supervened
imploring
integumented

These are words from "winged victory", by V M Yeates, published in 1934. The last word was one I had to look up.

[Absane]

how about:
Plenitude
supervened
imploring
integumented

Stop making me feel stupid. :o

I guess it is time to sign up for "word of the day" at dictionary.com

[Absane]

What's sad about my situation is that an INTP is usually good with words. I know I can be pretty good at putting words together, the only thing is it helps to know the words. Usually I have to work around it by making my sentences very long so I can define the word I wish I could have used.

[guthrie]

Sure, but if your main intake is from books published after about 1970, then you just aren't getting exposed to the full richness of the English language. Dumbing down is a real phenomena, although never quite as bad as some people want to make out.

Just to add to the fun, the other words I had to look up from "winged Victory" were:
phenkistoscopic
thanatognomic
matutinal
titubating
If it makes you feel any better, the author was a well educated poet, and therefore would have used far more words than were normal even at that time.
(I think I am INTJ, if IRRC)

[Absane]

Sure, but if your main intake is from books published after about 1970, then you just aren't getting exposed to the full richness of the English language. Dumbing down is a real phenomena, although never quite as bad as some people want to make out.

The only books I read before 1970 are generally math books. The newer books seem to appeal to those that paid attention in public schools. "Calculus for dummies" and "Statistics for the Utterly Confused."

Most math books I own come from Dover, I think they are a great publishing company.

[guthrie]

You mean the Dover that does reprints of books from the past 7 or 800 years? Yup, they are good, I have several of theirs already.
I need a copy of statistics for the utterly confused, since, like half my chemsitry year group, I have trouble getting maths. The other half had no trouble at all, but the rest of us had great difficulties.

WHich reminds me, with regards to IQ, given that you yourself seem to agree that different people are good at different things, trying to sum it all up into one number really doesnt make much sense, since the tests could be biased in terms of the number of questions that are of each type.

[Zephyr]

I think they usually split it up into verbal and spatial IQs, as Absane mentioned ... but I think their usefulness is limited. Maybe because I've only taken online tests.

Same with Myers-Briggs; I keep on coming up INTP or INTJ (well ... INTJ once). When I read the description I thought bits of it were fairly accurate, but then I read the description of the other types and realised bits of them (especially types differing by only one letter) were fairly accurate too. Which didn't overly impress me. Maybe my expectations were too high.

[guthrie]

As far as I know, the Myers-Briggs was effectively thought up by a couple of women, who looked at words and their meanings and applied them to people, such as "thoughtful" and "introverted" etc, and came up with a bunch of questions that would elicit answers about these words. The key point is that it was all done from scratch, and has not been tested scientifically in any way, as far as I know. They constructed a particular world view themselves. I'm not saying its totally innacurate, just that it is a blunt instrument.

[Absane]

As far as I know, the Myers-Briggs was effectively thought up by a couple of women, who looked at words and their meanings and applied them to people, such as "thoughtful" and "introverted" etc, and came up with a bunch of questions that would elicit answers about these words. The key point is that it was all done from scratch, and has not been tested scientifically in any way, as far as I know. They constructed a particular world view themselves. I'm not saying its totally innacurate, just that it is a blunt instrument.

Not so much from stratch they built it. The theory actually comes fromt he works on Jung... I have not read his books really but from what I have read (at Barnes and Noble.. I rarely buy books.. lol) he makes at least some sense.

[Absane]

I think they usually split it up into verbal and spatial IQs, as Absane mentioned ... but I think their usefulness is limited. Maybe because I've only taken online tests.

Well some tests take everything (spatial, verbal, logic, math) and test it all at one time. I think a more accurate picture (although still not accurate enough to call a true IQ test) is when you are tested seperately for each element.

Same with Myers-Briggs; I keep on coming up INTP or INTJ (well ... INTJ once). When I read the description I thought bits of it were fairly accurate, but then I read the description of the other types and realised bits of them (especially types differing by only one letter) were fairly accurate too. Which didn't overly impress me. Maybe my expectations were too high.

It might seem that you have a fairly balanced preference to each "type." Someone like me that is prettyy strong on every side is generally described very well by their "personality type." Though an argument, which I agree with, is that MB is not so much a personlity test but a test to see how your brain is wired. The arguement is that our brain is born with certain preferences and as we get older, we only reinforce them more and more... but also we slowly build the other preferences, too (like an appreciation)

Man, why do I feel like I cannot type at all today? Or spell? Maybe too much caffeine yesterday together with 2 hours of sleep.

[Zephyr]

Here (http://www.gladwell.com/2004/2004_09_20_a_personality.html)'s an article on the limits of personality tests I found interesting...

On the other hand, isn't this (http://www.fortunecity.com/bennyhills/hardy/441/personality/intpbar.html) a good description? :p