Holocaust Memorial

[otheadp]

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today we mark the memorial day for the Holocaust.
politics aside, i think everyone should remember what happened and learn from it.

all the victims, blessed be their memories, to them we say Never Again

[Oxygen]

Will we be marking the holocaust of the native Americans at the hands of the missionaries as well?

[Rappaccini]

When I moved to this house, the yard was rife with grasshoppers. But then... *sniff sniff* there came the riding lawnmover.

The grasshoppers took a royal hurtin' that day, a hurtin' we should not soon forget.



I for one say NEVER AGAIN!
I for one declare that, since this is "holocaust" memorial day, we should all hold in our hearts those that died that fateful day.




http://www.spymac.com/upload/gallery/user_214513/upload_106301.bmp

Yes, I know the images can be distrubing, but... we... *sniff sniff* mustn't ever forget the poor souls.

[gendanken]

Invert Nexus:
Callous or anything? I feel we should also mourn the countless genocides that took place before history. Who will mourn for Lo-Thar of the Hill People?

(blah blah)

And I say Never Again, knowing full well that it will happen again. and again. and again.
Caching!!

Hear hear- who will mourn for the Tutsis and the Greeks on Cyprus?
Who will mourn the Armenians?
Who will mourn the Chinese that were butchered in Manchurian incidents?
Who will mourn little brown men and women in Chiapas?
In Borneo?

Who will mourn the Serbs?

I find it both hillarious and annoying the solemnity so easily incurred by a Jew who's been cooked in a oven when atrocities are the world's hallmark- shit happens.
"Never again" is a cosmic joke and I'd love to stuff it down every last Jewish producer in Hollywood that has glamorized the Holocaust into some fabulous bitch nobody questions or fears protesting.

The powers of Anne Franks and Speilbergs are fucking annoying.

[gendanken]

Invert Nexus:

You obviously didn't get the point.
Yes I did, but used you to capitalize on a point I wished to make.

I meant that we should mourn all these people. We should mourn them all.
No one should mourn anyone- people die and they died, end of story.
It is only seeing the romanciing of a Jewish tragedy at the exclusion of other peoples just as bruatalized - and for spurious almost jingoist reasons that has me stressing this absuridity of ignoring what is happening right under one's nose.

You don't have to agree with their politics or ideology. It's just a little respect for the dead. Who will mourn gendanken?
A king's ransom in hot men in sexy, torn jeans.

I can't say for sure whether the holocaust happened or not I guess. It could be a big jewish conspiracy (is that what you're saying?). But if so it sure is a convincing one. Or are you just saying that the massacre of the jews gets more airplay than the others. I'd agree with you on that one.

That it happened at all is no secret and quite obvious- I'm not a Holocaust denier.

More like the latter.

And BTW, when I said it'll happen again and again etc, I didn't mean necessarily to the jews but to whoever, whenever. Might happen in your home town next. Or mine.

And when it does get over it.

[Rappaccini]

T'would d'pend on the king, yes it would...



To be frank, when I see a person actively grieving the Holocaust victims and sanctimoniously bullying others into similar observances, I assume that he's a simpleton.
It's not like God's People and a myriad of other poor human tribes hadn't been suffering for countless generations before Hitler came along.

The Reich didn't invent heartless genocide, especially not the Jewish brand (That had been a European tradition, comparable to religious war and beer, one of which has gone out of style.).

Besides, "Never again" is such a contrite, meaningless, droll, phony line, like a catch phrase for Nike, or some health insurance company or brokerage firm.

I don't mean to be callous... wait... yes, I do.


Seriously, people. Did you ever once think of the grasshoppers?

[gendanken]

Invert Nexus:
How could I not be affected by that? There may have been many other genocides in the history of man, but none quite so well documented. You've got to hand it to the germans for their clerical efficiency.

That's it though- atrocities a million times more brutal are nothing to the magic of Jewish propoganda. The rape of Nanking was just as well documented as was, to some extent, the Bosnian war but no one is as affected on account of who's running the show- a Jew.

Rapaccini:
It's not like God's People and a myriad of other poor human tribes hadn't been suffering for countless generations before Hitler came along
Indeed- weren't there millions of slaves and criminals crucified for years in Rome? Was it not a common Roman punishment for commoners?

Was it not Crassus/Pompey that crucified thousands of rebel slaves on the Appian way in one day?

Yet watch the whole Western world weep over the Nazarene as if he were the first man crucified ever. The same with 9/11, the first terrorist act ever.

Besides, "Never again" is such a contrite, meaningless, droll, phony line, like a catch phrase for Nike, or some health insurance company or brokerage firm.

"Some more, please" sounds better.
"Jew Stew"'s pretty cute.

All it needs is a commercial jingle.
Seriously, people. Did you ever once think of the grasshoppers?


No.

[Rappaccini]

Invert Nexus:
Was it not Crassus/Pompey that crucified thousands of rebel slaves on the Appian way in one day?

It was Crassus, I believe, since the slave rebellion was relatively successful for a time, and Pompey was too good for that to happen on his watch.

???

Oh, it was when Pompey returned from Hispania to aid Crassus that the slaves were crushed.

Yet watch the whole Western world weep over the Nazarene as if he were the first man crucified ever.
In that case, there is, obviously, a religious context to consider.


"Jew Stew" ...

All it needs is a commercial jingle.

... and the image of a big, fat, happy black woman serving up a helpin' for her family (of the stew, that is), flashing her pearly whites, and talking to the camera like its the housewife from next-door.

No.

But... you must be "affected," right?



:D <-------my pearly whites

[gendanken]

Rapaccinni:
In that case, there is, obviously, a religious context to consider.

Only because this Jesus was sane until Peter hailed him as the Christ, at which point he became a diseased monomaniac.
Now there are old church women singing pretty songs about his blood.

... and the image of a big, fat, happy black woman serving up a helpin' for her family (of the stew, that is), flashing her pearly whites, and talking to the camera like its the housewife from next-door.

No no no- we need a fat bitch from The View.

Then all she has to do is hold up a McDonald's cup.

[Hastein]

The mass extermination of the Chinese by Japanese hands during WWII was much more brutal, deliberate, and massive. Funny you never hear of it.

[gendanken]

Hastein:
The mass extermination of the Chinese by Japanese hands during WWII was much more brutal, deliberate, and massive. Funny you never hear of it.
Even funnier how you've failed to notice it being mentioned, you skimming asshole.

Mention the first:
Who will mourn the Chinese that were butchered in Manchurian incidents?

Mention the second:
The rape of Nanking was just as well documented as was, to some extent, the Bosnian war but no one is as affected on account of who's running the show- a Jew.

[Rappaccini]

Now there are old church women singing pretty songs about his blood.

Yes, they are pretty, aren't they?

[Hastein]

Even funnier how you've failed to notice it being mentioned, you skimming asshole

I know you posted that already. I was pointing out that it is never brought up on TV, in history, or anywhere else. My grandfather fought with the Chinese against the Japanese invaders and I find it shameful that their lives are not mentioned. Despite the horrors of the Holocaust, I find the Jews to be very arrogant and ethnocentric. It has reached the point where anytime someone speaks ill of Israel another documentary about it comes on.

[Hastein]

Here's your homework, The Holocaust Industry:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/185984488X/qid=1083288531/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-0288025-0499237?v=glance&s=books

[GuessWho]

Since that day was marked for the Holocaust, we should all put politics aside and first remember them. Then, I would like to take this opportunity to remember all people in the world who were killed.

Even though it is impossible to stop killings in this world, the least we can do is try to prevent them.

[Rappaccini]

Why?



Hey, Genderless, like my new look?

[Proud_Muslim]

It is amazing how the jews make the holocaust an industry to generate more sympathy for their crimes against the palestineans.

More than 50 years have passed since the holocaust and the jews keep moaning about it, how many HOLOCAUSTS committed in this world and yet no one talk about them???

I feel sick and tired from this ourageous abuse of tragedy happened 50 years ago !! TIME TO MOVE THE HELL ON !

[Rappaccini]

What's weird is, if it had been Mussulmans in the Holocaust, not Jews, your tone would be very different.

Chances are, you'd have presented us with your own wearisome, flashily variegated eulogy.



Everyone here knows it, including you.

[gendanken]

Hastein:
I know you posted that already. I was pointing out that it is never brought up on TV, in history, or anywhere else. My grandfather fought with the Chinese against the Japanese invaders and I find it shameful that their lives are not mentioned. Despite the horrors of the Holocaust, I find the Jews to be very arrogant and ethnocentric. It has reached the point where anytime someone speaks ill of Israel another documentary about it comes on.
Then my apologies.

GuessWho:
Since that day was marked for the Holocaust, we should all put politics aside and first remember them. Then, I would like to take this opportunity to remember all people in the world who were killed.
Yes, let us all put aside our human bias and prejudice and turn our ovens on to remember those Jews.

Those wonderful Jews to whom all hurt is multiplied a thousandfold by virtue their being somehow biologically different.
It is only in a Jew where we find pain magnified and experienced like no other living being on this planet, from whence these sprog of Zion breed there lies true pain and oppression: no one else knows the trials and tribulations of these virtuous, humble people come now, weep for Rachel!
And in your weeping Africa, Greece, Turkey, Mexico, all you lessers bleeding lose yourselves! A poor Jew in Israel suffers headcold!

Fuck off.

Even though it is impossible to stop killings in this world, the least we can do is try to prevent them
For every person that dies per second, 6 to 10 are born. We need violence.

Proud Muslim:
It is amazing how the jews make the holocaust an industry to generate more sympathy for their crimes against the palestineans.

More than 50 years have passed since the holocaust and the jews keep moaning about it, how many HOLOCAUSTS committed in this world and yet no one talk about them???

I feel sick and tired from this ourageous abuse of tragedy happened 50 years ago !! TIME TO MOVE THE HELL ON !
Oh, but you'd weep for Muslim cockroaches. That's what amazes me.

And by the way, cry me a river will you?

http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=35436

Rapapencildick:
Hey, Genderless, like my new look?
Sweet- I imagine if we cracked a joke on a Muslim (and I know plenty), your avatar is what Proud Mulsim would look like.

[Rappaccini]

Still like my look?

[Proud_Muslim]

What's weird is, if it had been Mussulmans in the Holocaust, not Jews, your tone would be very different.

Chances are, you'd have presented us with your own wearisome, flashily variegated eulogy.
Everyone here knows it, including you.

You are LIAR ! Muslims were slaughtered in BOSNIA just 7 years ago in their thousands, I did not moan about it...time to MOVE ON.

[Proud_Muslim]

Still like my look?

Indeed your avatar and your writtings confirms what Allah Almighty told us in the noble quran about people like you:

" Verily, We made the devils helpers and protectors for those who disbelieve:" (Qur’an 7:27)

" And whoever turns away from the remembrance of the Most Beneficent [i.e. the Quran and the worship of Allah] We appoint for him a devil to be an intimate companion for him." (Qur’an 43:36)

I am sure you have a devil who is always with you whispering in your ears....get rid of him by purifying yourself using the Quran....I challenge you to play the Quran in your home without feeling SHAKEN deep down your soul:

Here is the noble Quran Audio:

http://www.iec-houston.org/QuranAudio.shtml

try the last 3 chapters from the Noble Quran( 112, 113 and 114 ), it is these chapters which deal with the devils who accompany the disbelievers.. try playing them in your home and you will see by your own eyes what I am talking about.

[Rappaccini]

Muslims were slaughtered in BOSNIA just 7 years ago in their thousands, I did not moan about it...

You either didn't know about it or didn't realize they were Moslems.


... or, perhaps, your numerous hate-sites and religious sources didn't feature any snazzy, colorful links and articles (concerning the killings) for you to transcribe for our benefit.


Ah, who am I kidding?

You probably did moan about it in one of your cut 'n past sprees... without being aware of it.
You personally come up with about 45% of what you post, after all.

Indeed your avatar and your writtings confirms what Allah Almighty told us in the noble quran about people like you...
I wasn't addressing you.
You're even crazier than I am; why would I want your input?


....get rid of him by purifying yourself using the Quran....I challenge you to play the Quran in your home without feeling SHAKEN deep down your soul:

http://www.iec-houston.org/QuranAudio.shtml


Wow... I'm completely un-shaken.

I've never heard the phrase "the beneficient, the merciful" repeated that much.

Do I get a prize?

[otheadp]

Since that day was marked for the Holocaust, we should all put politics aside and first remember them. Then, I would like to take this opportunity to remember all people in the world who were killed.

Even though it is impossible to stop killings in this world, the least we can do is try to prevent them.

but it's just too hard, isn't it?
the non-victms say "get over it"
it's not for you to tell me when to get over it

the arabs say "look at what 'they' do to the poor 'palestinians'"
this is a human tragedy that happened gefore Israel even existed. and besides, you'd do the same thing that hitler did if you had half the chance

the leftists say "why don't Armenians get a memorial day?"
well for fuck's sake, why is there not a day for commemorating the Armenians and all the rest of them with their own respective days? is it the Jews' fault for "monopolizing" on sympathy? for in fact stealing sympathy away? for blocking sympathy to other massacres and diverting it to our Holocaust? for manipulating citizens, governments, institutions, media sources, etc, all over the world to try to prevent info about other genocides of floating up and setting up a memorial day? like for fuck's sakes, how stupid can these conspiracy theories get?

then we have the extreme left with their grasshopper pictures and their cynical remarks about jingles.
is it that hard to show some respect? are you not capable of fathoming the level of tragedy that this was? people were burnt alive, gassed, executed en masse, exterminated... is the jingle not catchy enough for you? why don't you bust out the weedwhacker... maybe that'll inspire you :(

[otheadp]

Yes, let us all put aside our human bias and prejudice and turn our ovens on to remember those Jews.

Those wonderful Jews to whom all hurt is multiplied a thousandfold by virtue their being somehow biologically different.
It is only in a Jew where we find pain magnified and experienced like no other living being on this planet, from whence these sprog of Zion breed there lies true pain and oppression: no one else knows the trials and tribulations of these virtuous, humble people come now, weep for Rachel!
And in your weeping Africa, Greece, Turkey, Mexico, all you lessers bleeding lose yourselves! A poor Jew in Israel suffers headcold!

Fuck off.


so what, now, are Jews not good enough to be mourned and remembered? somehow the Holocaust is not big enough of a tragedy... you see, the Chinese, the Armanians, and the Tutsis should be remembered and mourned, but not the Jews.. oh no.. let's turn on our ovens to remember Rachel!

[gendanken]

Rapaccini:
Still like my look?
What the fuck happened to Mortiis? Stick 'em back. Now.

(aside: I'm up for some Ahmed Kabob, you?)

Proud Muslim:
"I am sure you have a devil who is always with you whispering in your ears....get rid of him by purifying yourself using the Quran....I challenge you to play the Quran in your home without feeling SHAKEN deep down your soul:

Only indoctrinated, loudmothed imbeciles sound as if there is something whispering in their ears, not others- you're like a hairy little version of Joan of Arc.


"We will put terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. They serve other deities besides God for whom He has revealed no sanction. The fire shall be their home; evil indeed is the dwelling of the evil doers."
-Sura 3:151 - aimed at Christians who believe in the Trinity

"Slay them wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you. Idolatry is more grievous than bloodshed. But do not fight them within the precincts of the Holy Mosque unless they attack you there; if they attack you put them to the sword. thus shall the unbelievers be rewarded: but if they mend their ways (become Muslims), know that God is forgiving and merciful." -Sura 2:191

Among so many other passages in a wonderfully violent, sadistic, jingoinst religion parading around as something peaceful. You Ahmeds put Baphomet to shame, funny how you call others 'satanists'

Othadap:

is it that hard to show some respect? are you not capable of fathoming the level of tragedy that this was? people were burnt alive, gassed, executed en masse, exterminated... is the jingle not catchy enough for you?
Not really- pretty damn hard trying to find words that rhyme with Mengele and Auschwitz.

Mengele....faberge?



so what, now, are Jews not good enough to be mourned and remembered? somehow the Holocaust is not big enough of a tragedy... you see, the Chinese, the Armanians, and the Tutsis should be remembered and mourned, but not the Jews.. oh no.. let's turn on our ovens to remember Rachel!
Look, you.

You cry, you howl, you whine but there comes a point somewhere in there where one needs to look up, stand up, move on, and shut the fuck up already.

Couple Jews got fried- big fucking woop. Can't say I was hearbroken- death is fascinating- but initially the camps and the Reichtag were both striking and worthy of notice, all genocides are.
But if Rwanada were as much monopolized by the Africans to points past overkill, I'd be wanting to gas a negro myself as much as I'm wanting to boil Jews.

[15ofthe19]

I understand what you're saying gendizzle, but wouldn't you admit that the unique aspect of the holocaust was the militant teutonic systematic nature of the genocide? The Germans are pretty methodical about everything they do and they applied that thinking to exterminating the Jews. It's not necessarily that the holocaust stands out in terms of the history of genocides, but when so many people are involved in the rigid and orderly nature of it I think it shakes peoples sensibilities regarding what their neighbor might be capable of.

The random hackyness of the machete melee's in Africa are very identifiable and primal and don't really surprise too many people. That's just a state of nature thing, and we can shizzle that, but just damn, when a bunch of OCD white boys get uber-systematic about extermination, things start looking pretty fucked up, no?

I don't really see it so much as special recognition for the Jews as much as I do a recognition of the dark side of nationalism and where it can lead. That's why so many people call A.G. Asscrack a brownshirt, no?

[gendanken]

15:
I understand what you're saying gendizzle
Prole.

.....but wouldn't you admit that the unique aspect of the holocaust was the militant teutonic systematic nature of the genocide? The Germans are pretty methodical about everything they do and they applied that thinking to exterminating the Jews. It's not necessarily that the holocaust stands out in terms of the history of genocides, but when so many people are involved in the rigid and orderly nature of it I think it shakes peoples sensibilities regarding what their neighbor might be capable of.
The extermination of Armenians was a systematic, meticulous removal of these people from what the Turk governemnt likes to call 'war zones'
(uh-huh)

Pol Pot in taking over Cambodia unleashed a bloodletting that specifically targeted the elite in order to dumb the country and centralize his command- the relocation of people, the targeting of Buddhist monks, Chinese, and Muslims specifically by means of starvation or execution was all very methodical and it was done in the thousands.
In fact, with hundreds and thousands of black and white photographs of prisoners and people that were starved and exectued currently trimming memorials that to this day pale to the Jew's- this massacre is among one of the most documented and regimented.

What, you think its just the numbers?

The random hackyness of the machete melee's in Africa are very identifiable and primal and don't really surprise too many people. That's just a state of nature thing, and we can shizzle that, but just damn, when a bunch of OCD white boys get uber-systematic about extermination, things start looking pretty fucked up, no?

If you could somehow give a negro fair hair and features, I belive African massacres would have garnered more sympathy.

Think Joan Bennette syndrome.


I don't really see it so much as special recognition for the Jews as much as I do a recognition of the dark side of nationalism and where it can lead. That's why so many people call A.G. Asscrack a brownshirt, no?
OOhh..AHhh....recognition of the dark side, my culo.

Its a clear monopoly- not conspiracy- of the Jewsish knack to tug on one's purse strings...oops, heart strings.

[Rappaccini]

... when a bunch of OCD white boys get uber-systematic about extermination, things start looking pretty fucked up, no?

By the time you'd stated "izzle" twice, I was starting to doubt your intellectual standing in the creme de la creme of civilization which cp-users comprise, but you did, eventually, manage a point:

They were white.

That's why we fear them.

I agree.

I don't really see it so much as special recognition for the Jews as much as I do a recognition of the dark side of nationalism and where it can lead.

You don't see it as a humongous Zionist ruse, like our favourite wrestler in the religionist romping ring, the feared, the dreaded, Triple-P (Proud Polychromatic Pilgrim, who doubles up as Prattling Pitiful Peon)?

[15ofthe19]

Originally posted by Rapizzlechinizzle:
By the time you'd stated "izzle" twice, I was starting to doubt your intellectual standing in the creme de la creme of civilization which cp-users comprise, but you did, eventually, manage a point:

I guess if you got it, I must have been pretty blunt. Thanks for paying attention. :D

[Rappaccini]

Blunt?

I wouldn't say so; you took your sweet time getting to the point, though I guess " teutonic" was a fairly obvious sign of things to come.

... but, hey, am I one to percieve the obvious?

I can't very well blame you for taking your time, anyhow, seeing as this is probably the only semi-intellectual enterprise you can enjoy when not "balling" and "hanging," huh, my izzle?

On a less flattering note, your writing style is tasteless and unpolished.

[Xev]

15ofthe19:
That's just a state of nature thing, and we can shizzle that, but just damn, when a bunch of OCD white boys get uber-systematic about extermination, things start looking pretty fucked up, no?

Trying to extract a point from this gibberish:

You are saying that the race of the Germans is the reason the Holocaust is seen as alpha and omega of genocide?

That doesn't really hold up historically.

[15ofthe19]

I realize that I am not the most endearing persona on this forum, but intentionally creating straw men is beneath all three of you. Where have I tried to argue the Holocaust should be the alpha and omega of genocide? Where have I argued that what happened in Armenia or Cambodia is not worthy of note? Please try and stay on topic children. This isn't about me or my thoughts on where the Holocaust should rank on the all-time best list of kickass genocides. Ranking genocides in order of importance is akin to describing the color of the water to a drowning man.

There seems to be a general disdain in this thread for elevating the Holocaust to some sort of lofty status relative to other genocides that have occured in history. I have merely offered one possible explanation. I don't give a shit either way if you agree, but don't ask the question and then bitch about the possible answers that are thrown out. To engage in that sort of behavior relegates you to the bottom of the food chain of Sciforums where your suitemates include Truthseeker, JC, Wiggy, and Bob.

Xevil, Fluffy Bunny, and Rapstar, I really don't think any of the three of you want to share a toilet with those shitcocks do you?

Xev:
The point I was alluding to about the Germans was the level of detail applied to keeping records of who was put on what train, where they were housed, when they were exterminated, where they were buried, etc. etc. The tattoo number system and whatnot seem to be a somewhat higher level of attention to detail considering the ultimate endgame was simply to kill all of them and bury them in mass graves. Admittedly, I don't know all of the nuances of some of the other operations that have been carried out over the centuries, but the Germans stand out in my mind as having a more methodical and structured method to their madness than some, certainly compared to anything like what happened in Rwanda, Somalia or Bosnia. I'm hesitant to add Iraq to that list because I don't think we know quite yet how detailed Saddam might have been with his record keeping.


Fluff:
Good point about Pol, but was everything archived to the level of detail the Germans held to? Seriously, I'm asking. I haven't studied his regime as much as others.

Rap.
Don't believe everything you read, my bizzle.

Oh, and if you're going to label me as puerile, at least learn to spell PERCEIVE bitch. :cool:

Presumptuous and pretentious people make me laugh. Several of them work for me, and they always will.

[Rappaccini]

Don't believe everything you read...

What is it, you think, that I've believed so far?
How much that I read here do you think I really believe?


Oh, and if you're going to label me as puerile, at least learn to spell PERCEIVE bitch. :cool:


Actually, "puerile" doesn't have anything to do with spelling.

Besides, you need to quicker on your... fingers; I deleted that out ages ago.

From this point onward, it's tasteless and unpolished. You pleased?

Thought so.



I hit one key before the other, and you reprimand me?
And I thought we were home-dawgs, izzle.
I feel betrayed.



Watch this, dawg.
I too can be petty and wickedly idiotic.

learn to spell PERCEIVE bitch.

You're missing a comma there, between PERCEIVE and bitch.

...

... 'bitch. :cool:'


Presumptuous and pretentious people make me laugh. Several of them work for me, and they always will.

Ouch.
You got me there, buddyroo.

I can't possibly deny the fact that whatever leaves your fingers is absolutely, incontestibly, unquestionably true.




Oh, wait! something is ringing in the shadowy recesses of my skull.

It's an echo.




It goes How much that I read here..., but I can't make out the rest.


Maybe you know the rest?

[Xev]

15ofthe19:
Where have I tried to argue the Holocaust should be the alpha and omega of genocide? Where have I argued that what happened in Armenia or Cambodia is not worthy of note?

Where has anyone claimed that you had?

The point I was alluding to about the Germans was the level of detail applied to keeping records of who was put on what train, where they were housed, when they were exterminated, where they were buried, etc. etc.

Yes well that's Teutons for you. We make good cars, we run sane airports and we commit our acts of genocide with utmost efficiancy.
What is your point?
The fact that the Holocaust was efficiant makes it more horrible to people? Possible, but rather unlikely.

Please stop talking like a fourteen year old wigger, it's incredibly irksome. I might go further out on this limb and ask you to make a well-constructed argument, but that would probably be too much to ask.

[15ofthe19]

As always, the circular argument rears its ugly head. It's amusing to see one so obtuse as to argue against someone else that is more or less agreeing with them. It reminds me of nico. Argument for the sake of argument. What a bundle of dysfunction that must be, no?

Could it be that the most shocking thing about the circumstances that lead up to the Holocaust were furthered by a people that most of the Western world viewed as being refined and urbane prior to the realization that the entire country was quietly cheering on the extermination? To be honest, I have difficulty wrapping my mind around that argument. I've tried to believe that most Germans were unaware of the level of the genocide, but then the more I read about it the more I think that is just a common defense strategy amongst the people that were more likely turning a blind eye to what had to have been obvious to anyone paying attention. How could you not realize the family that lived next door to you suddenly disappeared one night after you saw some jackboots coming up the walk which prompted you to mind your own fucking business?

After kristallnacht, who could really say that they were unaware of what was really going on? Country fucks down in southern bavaria? Maybe. The bavarians I have met will tell you that they are viewed by the Hamburg crowd as somewhat rube-ish. I can fucking relate. There's nothing that cracks me up more than some jackwad yankee that thinks he's smarter than me because he has a jackass LI accent, and I don't. We take those guys over the barrel all the time and they don't even know it, but that's another thread... The reality is that nothing that serious goes down in your backyard without some nosy busybody having the straight shizzle and spreading it all about town. I just can't buy into that feigned innocence that so many tried to sell post-war.

Whatever. It's really just another case of stupid broke-dicks buying into some aryan bullshit and using that as a justification to eradicate anyone that challenged their worldview. Nothing new about that. It's going on right this very minute all over the world. Shit, Xev is probably goose-stepping around her trailer park at this very minute picturing scenes from Birth of a Nation, and wishing she could add the subtext. Who gives a shit? Racial supremacists have always been asshats, and they always will. They buy into a myth just like the fuckstick bible thumpers that they are so quick to make fun of. Ironic, no?

[Xev]

Christfuck man, do you ever get to the point?

Make a clear argument or case or - or just make some sort of valid observation.
Please.
Rambling about the Bazis does not make you look cultured, witty or urbane. It makes you look like a middle aged loser with a fat wife who gets his kicks trying to sound more educated than he is.

[15ofthe19]

Originally posted by "Dammit, He knows his shit on this matter, and it pisses me off..."
Rambling about the Bazis does not make you look cultured, witty or urbane. It makes you look like a middle aged loser with a fat wife who gets his kicks trying to sound more educated than he is.

I'm not married chica. I know that makes you wet as hell, but sorry, I am spoken for. No offense, but I prefer women to girls. I guess you could say middle aged if your middle is a belief in a life expectancy of 60, so I will cede that point.

The simple fact that you obviously aren't even attempting to keep up with what I'm saying is more telling about you than it is me Xev. This is not an argument from my perspective. You're just pissed that yet again, you have to argue your dumbass point of view against someone other than one of your sycophants, ergo, you might have to think and that pisses you off I guess. I'm not sure why, but I'm sure you have your misguided reasons. I know being young and inexperienced sucks for you, but don't take that shit out on me. Find some guy with low standards and grudge fuck him. That might make you feel better. Who knows?

What was it that pushed you over the edge anyway? That comment about your mother? You honestly don't blame me, do you? You practically begged me to go there. Don't get pissed at me for being perceptive.

Oh, and about the fat chick stuff. Now that's just funny. If there is one thing I am an insensitive ass about, it's fat chicks. Sorry, but I just can't handle it. You've seen my pic. I'm lean and mean, and I expect the same in my mistresses.

[Xev]

15ofthe19:

I did not mean argument in the sense of "opposing parties bicker over their views", I meant argument in the sense of "theory being presented in sensible manner for others to consider and converse about"

I am aware that this board is a invaluable source of social contact for you, but you could keep in mind that others use it for entertainment, and would prefer you not sully every thread with your need for chatting and gossip.

Now, do you have a point related to the topic?

[otheadp]

what difference does it make "what makes this genocide special"?

it is still a genocide, one of - if not the - biggest genocide in modern history, and it does not deserve all this cynical treatment.

it is most sickening, however, because the perps were so damn cultured and progressive economically and technologically

this was no mass murder in a pogrom-style moment of rage, or adrenaline filled machette raid

this was calm and calculated, technical and precise, with a whole system in place for no other purpose of mass extermination like bloody grasshoppers

the Armenians still hadn't gotten over theirs even though half of the world doesn't even believe it happened and there is very little evidence since it was supposedly destroyed by the Turks
and that was almost a century ago

and they tell Jews to "forget about it", when all the evidence in the world is there, and even when today there are still masses all over the world who wish Hitler had finished the job

15ofthe19:
this is a perfect example of what that piece of literature i wrote to u about is describing

[Rappaccini]

As always, the circular argument rears its ugly head. It's amusing to see one so obtuse as to argue against someone else that is more or less agreeing with them.

In case you are, incidentally, referring to me, please recall that I presented no "argument," circular or otherwise.

From the very beginning, all I've put forth is mockery.

Old reflexes...
To hold a pen is to be at war, after all.



EDIT:

... and it does not deserve all this cynical treatment.
Why does it not? Do you think it matters to the dead Jews how much and how stridently we commemorate them?

it is most sickening, however, because the perps were so damn cultured and progressive economically and technologically

Am I believe that you used the word "perps," as in "perpetrators" to describe the Nazis?
Yikes... not to say that it's unacceptable, but that word choice, I think, epitomizes your mentality (with regard to the topic, of course).

this was calm and calculated, technical and precise, with a whole system in place for no other purpose of mass extermination like bloody grasshoppers

Have there not been comparable instances in human history?

Specifically, the numbers which the Soviet government killed systematically over the early 20th century are astonishing, even, monstrous.

there is very little evidence since it was supposedly destroyed by the Turks

Supposedly?

Even if they made an attempt to 'cover up' and whatnot, I'd say we have evidence enough.

"Perhaps 75,000 Armenians endure in Turkey today, most of them in Istanbul."
~Here (http://www.religioustolerance.org/genocide2.htm)~

It wasn't always like that, no?

... and that was almost a century ago...

Meaning?


Who gives a shit?

After reading three paragraphs of your writing on the topic, I don't believe I'm being awfully presumptuous, as you termed it, when I state you do.

Racial supremacists have always been asshats...

There we go again.

[gendanken]

15of19:
I realize that I am not the most endearing persona on this forum, but intentionally creating straw men is beneath all three of you. Where have I tried to argue the Holocaust should be the alpha and omega of genocide? Where have I argued that what happened in Armenia or Cambodia is not worthy of note? Please try and stay on topic children. This isn't about me or my thoughts on where the Holocaust should rank on the all-time best list of kickass genocides. Ranking genocides in order of importance is akin to describing the color of the water to a drowning man.

I never once intimated you found the Holocaust alpha and omega of anything- spray your vendettas elsewhere.

15 says: Perhaps it was the discipline involved in this carnage that makes it memorable. And perhaps its in it being dealt by Teutonic blood that makes it most frightening in comparison to others.

Gendanken then provides you with some reasons why you may be mistaken.
Your rebuttal: nothing. Only a statement of your platform being a straw man.

Good point about Pol, but was everything archived to the level of detail the Germans held to? Seriously, I'm asking. I haven't studied his regime as much as others.

Down to every last photograph of the prisoners, peasants, women, children and elderly that were killed during the Khmer Rouge. The whole campaign reflected the background of a strict schoolteacher, of which Pol Pot undeniably was before going insane.

The Turkish as well - both fall under the same rubric of Teuctonic discipline- and theirein lies your flaw. See or no see?

But funny how I don't find you adressing any of my points until after these supposed 'children' show up, child.

Xevil, Fluffy Bunny, and Rapstar, I really don't think any of the three of you want to share a toilet with those shitcocks do you?

Stop with the name calling.
Strike one.

[Rappaccini]

... or just make some sort of valid observation.

Now wait a second, Xev.
I should say that he is posturing to some degree or other, as you suggested, but... he has made several "valid" observations.

His leaning toward conversational and unchallengeable points is noticeable, but so is his accuracy in the description of that Nazi Germany of so many decades past.


I'm up for some Ahmed Kabob, you?

Always... but he seems to have fled the scene.


EDIT:

You've seen my pic.

You mean this (http://www.slowart.com/slow/fatties/fatblk2.jpg) one?

Couldn't resist.

[gendanken]

Rap:
His leaning toward conversational and unchallengeable points is noticeable, but so is his accuracy in the description of that Nazi Germany of so many decades past.
Then how are they valid if he keeps vascillating?
Rather futile to be speaking with someone who's clearly admitted he's only throwing out straw men.

(All hail Mortiis)

Always... but he seems to have fled the scene.
No shit.

And I was so looking forward to spicing this bitch up. Double, bubble, toil and trouble....

[15ofthe19]

I guess this is where I don't know whether to be a little confused or just dismiss this whole thread as being nothing a place to bash Jews. Maybe you can't see this because your in the middle of the thread, but this thread is basically asking a question: What's so damn special about the Holocaust?

I threw out some possibilities, that is all. Gendy, there was no direct rebuttal on your part. You explained that Pol Pot was also methodical and detailed. Fine, I'll take your word for it. How is that a rebuttal of a possibility? In what universe does giving paralells to a situation constitute a rebuttal?

So are any of you actually arguing that there shouldn't be a Holocaust Memorial?

Just exactly what is the question being asked in this thread anyway? Time to step up Xev. What are you asking? What are you saying?

Rap, what about you? :confused:

[Rappaccini]

Then how are they valid if he keeps vascillating?

They're valid in that they are either wholely true or forthrightly logical.

I wouldn't call them "fair game" or "significant," but neither of those is necessarily a criterion for the word valid.

It is permissible, though, that the word be construed in such a way as to determine his statements invalid to productive discussion.
However, I did not PERCIEVE the definition, within the context of this thread and Xev's protests, as being so specialized.

Perhaps I did not read far enough into her or your posts, or perhaps it is best to leave this at that.

Rap, what about you? :confused:

Oh, I'm just being a jack ass. It's my calling, don't you know?

[gendanken]

15:
I guess this is where I don't know whether to be a little confused or just dismiss this whole thread as being nothing a place to bash Jews.
Gendanken is bashing Jews.


Maybe you can't see this because your in the middle of the thread, but this thread is basically asking a question: What's so damn special about the Holocaust?

Uhm, no.
If you flip back and look on the first post you will find otheadap with his candles up like all hypersocial twerps that simply *insist* on necrophilia.

This thread asks no questions, I made it one. Like, sorta.

How is that a rebuttal of a possibility? In what universe does giving paralells to a situation constitute a rebuttal?

Correct me if wrong- but if your statement concerns a mark you feel is distinguishing in one species, and I retort with the same mark found in another one would that not be a rebuttal?

Honestly- I'm being real here. At least you're not callling me a fucking fluff bucket.

Rap:
Perhaps I did not read far enough into her or your posts, or perhaps it is best to leave this at that.

No, I get you now.

[Rappaccini]

If you flip back and look on the first post you will find otheadap with his candles up like all hypersocial twerps...

No argument from this party.

"Hypersocial" is definitely the right way to describe someone that uses the word non-victim.

[gendanken]

Or by chance found describing the living as uncorpses.

[Rappaccini]

I vaguely remember something along those lines.

Is that what goofyfish edited out of otheadp's last post?

[Xev]

Rappaccini:
Now wait a second, Xev.
I should say that he is posturing to some degree or other, as you suggested, but... he has made several "valid" observations.

Well enough. He's able to regurgitate what he's read about the Nazis, make a few pertinent observations, and then hop around socializing. He reeks of need.
It's...embarassing.

Back to Mortiis I see. I thought you thought that I was that monster?

15:
So are any of you actually arguing that there shouldn't be a Holocaust Memorial?

Nope, and not "bashing" the Jews either.
Holocaust guilt has become a cottage industry. If it wasn't the first Speilburg movie that brought you in, it was the second or third one, or perhaps the bonus dvd with interviews from concentration camp survivors explaining how we must always remember and never forget.

Of course we have other victims crawling out of the woodwork, such as the negroes and the Native Americans, but it's the Holocaust that produces tear-jerkers.

When's the last time you saw a movie, aimed towards whites, about slavery? I can think of only Amistad, which didn't do particularly well. Off the top of my head, I can name five about the Holocaust.

Gendanken commented on the phenomena. 'Tis all.

gendanken:
I'm quite fond of Orwell's prescription for ridding oneself of that habit:

"A not-unwhite rabbit raced across a not-ungreen field under a not-uncloudless sky on a not-unwarm day"

Or something to that effect.

[Rappaccini]

Back to Mortiis I see. I thought you thought that I was that monster?
If my memory tells rightly, which I'm happy to say it does routinely, your title was once Parasite God.

Maybe the better question is did you think yourself that monster?

[15ofthe19]

Well enough. He's able to regurgitate what he's read about the Nazis, make a few pertinent observations, and then hop around socializing. He reeks of need.
It's...embarassing.

My interests in the Nazis are not really centered around the Final Solution, but you can't study them as much as I have without picking up some things about the way they implemented the plan. Some of it is from reading, some of it is from conversations I've had with Germans. What's the difference Xev?

You shouldn't be embarassed for me Xev. I'm quite happy.

Now you on the other hand....8000+ and counting. What does that say about you?

[gendanken]

Xev:
Gendanken commented on the phenomena. 'Tis all.
Mingled with a tinge of Jew bashing, surely.

gendanken:
I'm quite fond of Orwell's prescription for ridding oneself of that habit:

"A not-unwhite rabbit raced across a not-ungreen field under a not-uncloudless sky on a not-unwarm day"

Or something to that effect.
(He used Blake as an example. But..)

The task now being to teach a seemingly unschooled unblack how to cleanse his dysEnglish from his not unlikely proletarian proclivities.

[Xev]

"Now you on the other hand....8000+ and counting. What does that say about you? "

It means I don't own a t.v and have spent several years mocking you 'tards in lieu of its warm glow.

The Germans are always happy to have idiot Americans quiz them on that facet of their history. You could query them about the music of Kraftwerk, the poetry of Heine or the novels of Goethe, but I daresay that'd be over your head.
No, of course you ask them about the Nazis.

gendanken:
I believe he gave that exercize as well.

I believe the term is "wigger"

[15ofthe19]

Actually, the term is "Big fan of Chappelle's Show", and it is the funniest show on television right now, and you not having a tv explains a lot. Not that I'm picking on you for it, but it definitely explains a lot Xev, and others. Trust me, you're missing out.

How many times do you see a Frontline segment about a blind black white supremacist? Now that's genius, my bizzle's. You guys would do well to pick up a magazine every now and then. Fuh shizzle?

[Xev]

I prefer to actually participate in my entertainment. Passivity irks the fuck out of me.

Oddly enough, I associate the sound of "shnizzle" with the sound of hollowpoints smashing their way through an empty skull. Wonder why.

[gendanken]

15:
and you not having a tv explains a lot.

And you having one only proves the theory of opposites, my liege.

You guys would do well to pick up a magazine every now and then. Fuh shizzle?
::cringe::

Stop it, will you?

Xev:
Oddly enough, I associate the sound of "shnizzle" with the sound of hollowpoints smashing their way through an empty skull. Wonder why.
Sounds more like the buzz of a firehose blasting up a man's colon.

SHHiiizzzZZZZZZzzZZzzzzzle. SShiiiIIIIIIzzzzzzzzzz-ZZZlllee....

Or him freezing his nuts off outside in the cold.

[bigears]

What matters is that Germany of 1938 was a place of culture and learning, the beneficiary of a history and culture that predicates most similarly our own. For this reason what happened there teaches us better what can again happen. It was unique in the modern era for it's size, brutality and form: state sanctioned, targeting civilians, organised and heartless (victims often made to suffer before death).

We can learn from this. We must mourn them, and we must mourn too all the other's who died - in other countries and at other times. But the Holocaust is our unique lesson on the evil man can perpetrate upon man.

[gendanken]

Bigears:
What matters is that Germany of 1938 was a place of culture and learning, the beneficiary of a history and culture that predicates most similarly our own. For this reason what happened there teaches us better what can again happen. It was unique in the modern era for it's size, brutality and form: state sanctioned, targeting civilians, organised and heartless (victims often made to suffer before death).
Nice..point. But I'd buy it if Nanking did not happen exactly the same way at exactly the same time.

We can learn from this. We must mourn them, and we must mourn too all the other's who died - in other countries and at other times. But the Holocaust is our unique lesson on the evil man can perpetrate upon man.
Easy with the musts. Humanity is not obligated to do anything for humanity in the same sense one is not in bondage to care for his neighbor or his business.

The Holocaust is not a "unique lesson" in anything other than the prowess of art.

[bigears]

Nanking is in China, and was barbarity by the Japanese on the Chinese. It was not state sanctioned, in fact it represents the Holocaust in no way.

We must learn from our mistakes. Or we are condemned to repeat them. Is it bondage for you take a moment and reflect on the evil mankind and need for compassion in this world? You must be a very busy person...

[bigears]

Come on bondage boy. Tell me about humanity and art.

[Xev]

bigears:
"It was not state sanctioned, in fact it represents the Holocaust in no way."

It was indeed state sanctioned.

"Is it bondage for you take a moment and reflect on the evil mankind and need for compassion in this world? You must be a very busy person... "

You know - if you despise mankind that much, do us a favor and remove yourself from it. All you need is a razor.

"Come on bondage boy. Tell me about humanity and art. "

Gendanken, I think we have a Starbucks Buddhist.

-edit-
..."bondage boy"?

[spidergoat]

Mass Grave Blasted For Lack Of Diversity
SARAJEVO, BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA—Members of the International Coalition for Equality criticized a newly unearthed mass grave Monday, saying it lacked religious and racial diversity. "The funereal pit is brimming with Croats, nearly 300 of them, without a single representative Serb," ICE spokesman Jacques Marchand said. "Exclusionary burial practices like this send a negative message to the world. Corpses of all races and creeds should be tossed together to decay in harmony." Marchand acknowledged that the grave did, at least, have a sprinkling of women and children.
..from the onion.



"Holocaust guilt has become a cottage industry."
Like promoting any other message, it takes money. Have you ever seen a political compaign without money? Do we complain that campaign staff members are exploiting democracy to get rich? Doesn't the Christian message require the same use of marketing and sales? Are they just exploiting the guilt of original sin for there own purposes? Not until Jews are pontificating in crystal palaces from guilded thrones on their own 24 hour TV network, will I accept the rediculous assertion that they are exploiting the holocaust for personal gain. There is not enough money in the world to bring back those 6 million people; Jews, Gypsies, Poles, the mentally ill, homosexuals, germans, American POWs and countless others. Every worthy cause needs financial support, from the exploration of space, to the treatment of disease. Letting everyone know that genocide is not just something that happened in the past, or something that happens in remote places among uncivilized heathens is well worth whatever resentment that might cause among the cynical racists of the world. The point of remembering the holocaust, and indeed all 50 million or so killed in WWII, is not to call special attention to the Jews, but to prevent this kind of thing from happening again to everyone, of every nationality and religion. The fact that genocide is still happening, like in Rawanda, means that this "cottage industry" devoted to the extermination of extermination is still not big enough.

[Hastein]

The point of remembering the holocaust, and indeed all 50 million or so killed in WWII, is not to call special attention to the Jews, but to prevent this kind of thing from happening again to everyone, of every nationality and religion. The fact that genocide is still happening, like in Rawanda, means that this "cottage industry" devoted to the extermination of extermination is still not big enough.

Agreed Spidergoat, you put it better than anyone else here could.

[otheadp]

The point of remembering the holocaust, and indeed all 50 million or so killed in WWII, is not to call special attention to the Jews, but to prevent this kind of thing from happening again to everyone, of every nationality and religion.
... and to pay tribute to the victims!

some fucking meth-shooting liberals in here condemn those who conduct memorials.
it can only be the product of them being sexually exploited as children or maybe some Holocaust surviver jumped the line in front of them at the supermarket (cause you know how annoying it is when some fucking Holocaust surviver jumps the line)

www.deathcamps.info

[Rappaccini]

bigears:

Nanking is in China, and was barbarity by the Japanese on the Chinese.

Tell me, do you think the Germans considered the Jews as fellows or vice versa?
We must learn from our mistakes.
Many people on this planet don't view the Holacaust as a mistake.
Read Otheadp's posts.

Is it bondage for you take a moment and reflect on the evil mankind and need for compassion in this world? You must be a very busy person...

In my case, yes... and I am.

Come on bondage boy.

Are you, by chance, trying to be derisive?


Xev:

It was indeed state sanctioned.

I don't know; does he mean "sanctioned" by the flailing Chinese state?

Spidergoat:


Do we complain that campaign staff members are exploiting democracy to get rich?
I don't know who 'we' is, but I'd assume so. How do you think 'we' came to have the term fat cat?
Doesn't the Christian message require the same use of marketing and sales?
I don't care for the Christian message, and, similarly, I don't care for Spielberg.
I must admit that Schindler's List is a very good classic, though.

Are they just exploiting the guilt of original sin for there own purposes?
How do you exploit a myth?

There is not enough money in the world to bring back those 6 million people...
There are certainly enough willing women to afford us some replacements.

Yes, I am implying that human life is insignificant.

Every worthy cause needs financial support, from the exploration of space, to the treatment of disease.

That is true.

... but to prevent this kind of thing from happening again to everyone, of every nationality and religion.
I'll wager my soul it won't work.

...

Oh, wait.
... "cottage industry" devoted to the extermination of extermination is still not big enough.

... or futile to begin with.


EDIT:

otheadp:

Welcome back, middle-class Jack!

... and to pay tribute to the victims!

I liked his explanation more.

I'm not honoring my great grandmother right now.

Why am I, you know, that person that's most important to me, going to spend time extolling a bunch of Christ-killers, whose relatives aren't even going to wet my beak... even a little?

some fucking meth-shooting liberals in here condemn...

I've never even seen methamphetamine, but how do you know I'd shoot up if, somehow or other, I procured a batch?
Methamphetamine may be either injected, ingested orally, snorted, or smoked. (http://www.dea.gov/pubs/intel/02016/)
~DEA~

it can only be the product of them being sexually exploited as children...

Oh, yes, daddy used to... *sniff* *cry* ... it was just like the

GATES TO HELL (www.deathcamps.info)

[spidergoat]

"Why am I, you know, that person that's most important to me, going to spend time extolling a bunch of Christ-killers, whose relatives aren't even going to wet my beak... even a little?"

A few Jews may have betrayed Jesus, because they feared his power, but he, and all of his followers were Jews, too. The real Christ-killer was a sadistic Roman bureaucrat, who was later recalled to Rome for his cruelty, the kind of person that thought of life as insignificant, you two would probably get along real well.

[otheadp]

Why am I, you know, that person that's most important to me, going to spend time extolling a bunch of Christ-killers, whose relatives aren't even going to wet my beak... even a little?

well, since you (and other meth-shooting liberals ;)) mourn Pol Pot's and Ottomman Turkey's victims, (well you don't really mourn them, but you give them the courtesy of not mentioning grasshoppers and weedwhackers), giving the same courtesy to the Holocaust victims is the least you could do for those damn Christ Killers

and you know what, nobody's asking you to say anything. if you have nothing nice to say maybe you shouldn't say anything at all. your hate of the unimportant Christ Killers does not need to be expressed at every chance you get... especially in a Holocaust Memorial topic.

but seems like many just can't hold their water when it comes to showing off their exquisitly sharp wit!

shoot away, alfredo

[Rappaccini]

A few Jews may have betrayed Jesus...

Don't lecture me, you twit. Do you think I was being serious?



well, since you (and other meth-shooting liberals) mourn Pol Pot's and Ottomman Turkey's victims, (well you don't really mourn them, but you give them the courtesy of not mentioning grasshoppers and weedwhackers)...


Don't attempt to characterize me, Tweedle Dum.

I'm not liberal.
I don't take methamphetamines.
I give "courtesy" to none but a select few on this planet, and that few certainly doesn't include dead Jews, Armenians, or Cambodians.

[spidergoat]

Why don't you get serious?

moron.

[Rappaccini]

Are you seriously that incapable?

[gendanken]

Bigears:
Nanking is in China, and was barbarity by the Japanese on the Chinese. It was not state sanctioned, in fact it represents the Holocaust in no way.
Ignorance

We must learn from our mistakes.

Is


Or we are condemned to repeat them. Is it bondage for you take a moment and reflect on the evil mankind and need for compassion in this world? You must be a very busy person...
Bliss.

Isn't it?
So is complacency- I don't have to feel compassion for any human, I do not have to dance with you at parties, laugh with you, feel for you, move to know you; in other words all the programs handed down by the mother Teresas and Dalai Lamas of this world are little more than communal malarias.

Its not *bondage* for me to do so, its an *incorrigible annoyance* when one feels obligated to do anything.

Come on bondage boy. Tell me about humanity and art.
*mordant smile*
Excuse me?

Xev:
Gendanken, I think we have a Starbucks Buddhist.

No fooking shite.

Rapaccini:

Got it- had a discussion with a couple few, including Xev, and it turns out this "fustian" word has been used as noun. And you did not address it here
http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=35608
so I'm putting it here.

Apart from reading it Burgess' "Enderby" we find this in the American Heritage Dictionary.

"NOUN:
1a. A coarse sturdy cloth made of cotton and flax. b. Any of several thick twilled cotton fabrics, such as corduroy, having a short nap. 2. Pretentious speech or writing; pompous language. "

We tie this up with my example to you of 'bombastic' with the -ic hacked off to label a pompous haranguer as a 'bombast', and you can see that I'm right.

Spidergoat:
Why don't you get serious?

moron.
And why don't you tell him about Taosim and Zen then? That might 'enlighten' him, yes?

[spidergoat]

He'd have better luck with Deal-a-Meal™.

[Rappaccini]

... this "fustian" word has been used as noun. And you did not address it here
http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=35608
so I'm putting it here.

Apart from reading it Burgess' "Enderby" we find this in the American Heritage Dictionary.

"NOUN:
1a. A coarse sturdy cloth made of cotton and flax. b. Any of several thick twilled cotton fabrics, such as corduroy, having a short nap. 2. Pretentious speech or writing; pompous language. "


The original dispute centered on its use as a noun describing a person, not simply its use as a noun.
I would never have championed a losing cause.

Face it.
The use of the word as a noun to describe a person, namely me, was plainly obsolescent and thereby incorrect.

I win. You lose.

Bwahahahaha!

[gendanken]

Rapaccini:
The original dispute centered on its use as a noun describing a person, not simply its use as a noun.
I would never have championed a losing cause.

Face it.
The use of the word as a noun to describe a person, namely me, was plainly obsolescent and thereby incorrect.

I win. You lose.

Bwahahahaha!
Bah!

You sir are making a dirty habit out of besting my memory- again, you're right. Its all coming back to me.......yadda yaa...badda bing....

Yes- I'm remembering, some flumpkin (sp?) girl in there was flaming me as well, called me a snitchnatch or some other prole byword. And the dilemma was over whether 'fustian' could be used to label person, in the fashion that 'bombast' is used to label persons. Yes?

Answer: Yes it has- that is not the same as saying its a principle, writers are often wont to coin words on the spot that never make it into the lexicon on account of its strangeness (Jung used the word 'mutistic' to describe a patient).

"He's a loudmouth, an egocentric imbecile of ill repute. Let us pray he gets his tounge cut out for being such a fustian"

..or something to that effect. I swear on my toenails that its been used as a label for character.

I'm right.

Spidergoat:
No, no, no- tell us about Zen.

On topic.

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I won't argue with you, Gendanken. You're probably right, anyhow.