Keeping your Brother; is there an "Epidemic" in Africa?

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by Rappaccini, Apr 10, 2004.

  1. Rappaccini Redoubtable Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.i-sis.org.uk/AfricanAids.php

    This is just one example of the general incompetency that pervades the "scene" of AIDS in Africa.

    Do you realize that in Africa, by the dictate of WHO and the CDC, countless poeple are diagnosed with AIDS without proper HIV tests having been performed?
    There are 29 diseases which are considered AIDS when accompanied by an HIV positive test, and more than 60 unrelated ones that can result in a positive HIV test.
    ... and they're hardly even testing over there any more.
    How many of them do you think really have AIDS?

    Thanks to this, and to the monstrous amounts of money, consequently, that have been thrown onto this ridiculous bonfire, the assistance that Africans truly need, from traditional afflictions, is being scoured on useless medicines.

    African countries are building up debts by purchasing drugs like Nevirapine, which has 'neuropsychiatric side effects in patients with HIV, but no history of mental illness', and whose physical side effects include 'hepatotoxicity, gastrointestinal symptoms, and dermatological reactions'.

    While African nations go without affordable insecticides and suffer from 'millions of annual infant malarial deaths' and basically starve to death, US pharmaceuticals companies give 'gifts' like appetite stimulants and silicone implants, then demanding tax credit for these back at home.
    Oh, yeah, then the 'recipient countries' have to pay to trash the stuff.

    Nations in Africa incur more and more and more debt every day.
    According to Gordon Brown, of the UK, thanks this SNAFU, the UN-proposed anti-povery strategies that forcast economic relief for several African countries by 2015 are more likely to ring true in around 2147.


    People in Africa aren't dying of AIDS. They're dying of malaria, hepatitis, parasitic infections, influenza, tuberculosis, and malnutrition.
    "In order for any drug therapy to be truly successful it must be used in tandem with adequate nutrition and sanitary conditions."

    They need agriculture and clean water, not Nevirapine.

    "All Africans are being unfairly labelled as insatiable, sexually promiscuous, reckless people while their key issue of poverty remains ignored."


    Who exactly is killing the Africans, today? Is it AIDS, or is it 60 other diseases, misdiagnosed, guised as the 'inescapable' HIV, which has not even been proven to cause AIDS, or... is it the people that are telling thousands upon thousands of Africans, to their faces, "You have AIDS"?

    Is it really a disease killing them, or is it just the rest of the world?
     
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  3. Vortexx Skull & Bones Spokesman Registered Senior Member

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    Irony, some speculate that past attemps of the WHO to fight these other deseases with vaccinations aided in the spreading of AIDS because the needles where used again and again.

    One of the other factor that seem to have contributed greatly to AIDS start spreading in Africa is the decolonialisation civil/tribal/freedom wars/playground for the cold war, starting in the early 60's, wich meant that food went scarce in many areas and more monkeys and other bushmeat were eaten, allowing SIV like virusus to transfer to humans as HIV, also these people were dislocated by the civil wars and many females raped by gangs, taking the lingering problem to new territories...

    Let there be no doubt about it , AIDS is in Africa and it's a large problem, but as Rappaccini mentioned there are many more problems in Africa, AIDS is not just some umbrella to fit all and somebody in Africa with AIDS will likely actually die from malnutrition or catching a cold, while well-fed infected Americans may live for decades now.

    Also there is the Delta-32 factor making black africans slightly more vulnerable than europeans:

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    In the mid 1990's, an exciting new example of intense selection against one of the homozygotes for a trait came to light. This stemmed from the discovery that some people do not get AIDS even if they are repeatedly exposed to the virus ( HIV ) that is responsible for this usually fatal disease. The people who are immune have inherited two copies of a rare mutant gene known as CCR5-delta 32 --they are homozygous. Those who are heterozygous apparently have a partial immunity or at least a delay in the onset of AIDS. Approximately 10% of Europeans now have the CCR5-delta 32 gene variant, but it is extremely rare or absent in other populations of the world. There is a surprising connection in this story. The CCR5-delta 32 gene also provides immunity to a deadly disease of bacterial origin, bubonic plague . People who are homozygous for the CCR5-delta 32 gene variant are completely immune, while heterozygotes have partial immunity. It is very likely that this life-saving allele occurs as a random mutation and that it was selected for by the devastating black plague epidemics that swept over Europe beginning in the 14th century. During the first wave of plague, between 1347 and 1350, one fourth to one third of all Europeans died from this disease. Natural selection favored those who by chance had inherited the CCR5-delta 32 gene variant. Repeated waves of plague over the next three centuries resulted in an increase in the frequency of CCR5-delta 32 in the European population.
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    So, we will see an increase of more Africans with the delta-32 gene in the next decades ?
     
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2004
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