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Tiassa
02-26-04, 07:09 AM
Short: Brits bugged Secretary General

Bloomberg reports that former UK Development Secretary Clare Short has revealed that the British government spied on the office of the Secretary General of the United States prior to the invasion of Iraq.Feb. 26 (Bloomberg) -- British intelligence spied on United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan during the buildup to last year's Iraq war, former U.K. Development Secretary Clare Short told the British Broadcasting Corp. today.

The war that toppled Saddam Hussein began last March, after the U.S. and U.K. failed to win UN support for a Security Council resolution explicitly endorsing military action. Short resigned from U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair's cabinet in April, and called for Blair to quit over the war.

"These things are done and in the case of Kofi's office, they've been done for some time," Short said. "I've seen transcripts of Kofi Annan's conversations."

Short's comments will fuel political debate about British actions before the war. U.K. prosecutors yesterday dropped charges against Katharine Gun, a U.K. intelligence worker who leaked an e-mail about a U.S. request that Britain help bug UN delegations before the Iraq war. (Bloomberg (http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000102&sid=aDplnXZGshCk&refer=uk))This could spell trouble for Tony Blair ... isn't he answering questions on the matter right about now?

Reuters hits the wire with the UN's response; they're not surprised."This is something which is not entirely surprising because we always have suspected that," Andreas Nicklisch, deputy director of the U.N.'s office in Brussels, said in a telephone interview from London.

"It's illegal of course, but it's also unnecessary because we work in complete transparency and openness." (Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4443614&section=news))You know, all is fair in love and war, but if we're going to bother pretending to get along at all in this world, there are some things you just don't do.

This is one of those things that's a toss-up. Either Ms. Short is grievously incorrect, or else it really has come to this.

You spy on your friends, you spy on your enemies. It's actually hard to tell which is more embarrassing to be busted by.

Although, for the record, I give about as much credibility to the statement that the UN operates in complete transparency and openness as I do to the statement that British security services always act within the law.

Nonetheless--all is fair in love and war; nothing is sacred; trust nobody; keep your friends close and your enemies closer ... I just don't see that this has really done a whole hell of a lot for the world throughout time.

Tragic, but inevitable.

• Bloomberg. "UK Spied on UN's Annan, Ex-Cabinet Minister Says (Update 1)." February 26, 2004. See http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000102&sid=aDplnXZGshCk&refer=uk
• Reuters. "U.N. Says Any British Spying on Annan Illegal." February 26, 2004. See http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4443614&section=news

sweet Pentax
02-26-04, 08:35 AM
whoops ... i just posted the same story in world events ...
( but thatīs good ; world events shouldnīt be the place for discussions )

btw , i voted for other :

if you spy on a friend , you shouldnīt be surprised that you have no friends anymore ;)

archangel
02-26-04, 09:03 AM
whoops ... i just posted the same story in world events ...
( but thatīs good ; world events shouldnīt be the place for discussions )

btw , i voted for other :

if you spy on a friend , you shouldnīt be surprised that you have no friends anymore ;)


Strictly speaking... the UN has never been much of friend to the "Coalition of the Willing "but rather more of a wailing rubber stamp.
allegations such as these arent going to do much damage, a tight slap on the wrist is the most that can be expected.........

sweet Pentax
02-26-04, 09:26 AM
Strictly speaking... the UN has never been much of friend to the "Coalition of the Willing

so itīs allowed to spy on an ally ( not an ally for the so called coalition , but an ally for UK and usOFa ..... ) ?

Spyke
02-26-04, 09:55 AM
Knowledge is power.

Undecided
02-26-04, 06:23 PM
Allies have always been spying on each other. The common axiom for crimes, and criminals is "you aren't committing a crime if no one catches you."

firdroirich
03-08-04, 12:21 AM
Shows how much "goodwill of nations" the UN inspires- or more precisely how much goodwill there is going around.

Von Axel
03-08-04, 09:25 PM
In any high level diplomatic system it is more than possible to be surveyed at all times if your security is poor, its well known in the diplomatic system and its something that i personally blame un security for, you never know if information gained could save lives and may never be passed on... so i say well done to our military intelegence system.