What is the stuff our dreams are made of?

Discussion in 'Intelligence & Machines' started by Merlijn, Jun 14, 2001.

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What is the relation between body and consciousness?

  1. Consciousness? that is in fact only an illusion! ask Dennett

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  2. I am a materialist. The highly complex informational processing capabilities of our brains enable it

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  3. Bodies are of flesh; minds/spirits/souls are unique and non-material. How they work together is a my

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  4. I only dream to have a body. maybe you are also a product of my dreams. So, this must be the wrong q

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  1. Merlijn

    Merlijn curious cat Registered Senior Member

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    I just came across a discussion at the Frontier Physics Forum on teleportation. The question was raised, imagine we have a teleporter, can we teleport a conscious being?

    I am wondering what the ideas are as to what is the source of our consciousness?

    Here is a poll
     
    Merlijn, Jun 14, 2001
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  3. papa_smirf

    papa_smirf Registered Senior Member

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    Personally, I question it all. Are we a figment of our own imaginations? Maybe a figment of someone elses. Maybe we are nothing more then a computer program. Or worse yet, a true conciousness part of some sort of expirement. Or an AI inside of a programmed world. Don't believe what THEY tell you. To discover the truth you must be paranoid of everything at all times. This in fact is the only true truth!
     
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  5. Merlijn

    Merlijn curious cat Registered Senior Member

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    Papa_Smirf, Do I hear Descartes sneaking up on me again?

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    I agree: through doubting the truth may be percieved. But the question how to know the truth is worth a thread of its own.

    There is this difficult question...is the following valid?
    Does the fact that the sentence is self-referential prove its own existence?
    Personally I think it does. But I believe, to the strickt rules of logic it does not.
     
    Merlijn, Jun 16, 2001
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    papa_smirf Registered Senior Member

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    You can never know the truth because it can always be a mere lie. That's the beauty of paranoia. The key is to believe that what you're seeing now is the best truth as of now. In that way, you can keep a healthy grip on reality while having a twist of phsychoticism in you (creativity

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    ). And as for the following:
    I don't think that it proves itself anymore then this sentence I'm writing now. It's simply a half truth like all things. The question is, if it isn't the truth, then who's in control of the deception?
     
    papa_smirf, Jun 16, 2001
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  8. Merlijn

    Merlijn curious cat Registered Senior Member

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    Maybe I misunderstand you, but I do get the feeling that for a scepticist, you put an awful lot of trust in your senses.

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    Merlijn, Jun 17, 2001
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