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Merlijn
06-14-01, 03:04 PM
I just came across a discussion at the Frontier Physics Forum (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2975) on teleportation. The question was raised, imagine we have a teleporter, can we teleport a conscious being?

I am wondering what the ideas are as to what is the source of our consciousness?

Here is a poll

papa_smirf
06-15-01, 04:51 PM
Personally, I question it all. Are we a figment of our own imaginations? Maybe a figment of someone elses. Maybe we are nothing more then a computer program. Or worse yet, a true conciousness part of some sort of expirement. Or an AI inside of a programmed world. Don't believe what THEY tell you. To discover the truth you must be paranoid of everything at all times. This in fact is the only true truth!

Merlijn
06-16-01, 05:25 AM
Papa_Smirf, Do I hear Descartes sneaking up on me again? :)

I agree: through doubting the truth may be percieved. But the question how to know the truth is worth a thread of its own.

There is this difficult question...is the following valid?
I can doubt anything. Maybe nothing exists at all, but the fact that there is something that can doubt.
Does the fact that the sentence is self-referential prove its own existence?
Personally I think it does. But I believe, to the strickt rules of logic it does not.

papa_smirf
06-16-01, 01:44 PM
through doubting the truth may be perceived. But the question how to know the truth is worth a thread of its own. You can never know the truth because it can always be a mere lie. That's the beauty of paranoia. The key is to believe that what you're seeing now is the best truth as of now. In that way, you can keep a healthy grip on reality while having a twist of phsychoticism in you (creativity :D ). And as for the following:I can doubt anything. Maybe nothing exists at all, but the fact that there is something that can doubt. I don't think that it proves itself anymore then this sentence I'm writing now. It's simply a half truth like all things. The question is, if it isn't the truth, then who's in control of the deception?

Merlijn
06-17-01, 04:03 PM
The key is to believe that what you're seeing now is the best truth as of now.
Maybe I misunderstand you, but I do get the feeling that for a scepticist, you put an awful lot of trust in your senses.;)

papa_smirf
06-18-01, 02:57 PM
lol:D