Life soul purpose

[terra2]

I found an excellent site that gives so much free info about a persons life purpose, immortality, future worlds and all things metaphysical/esoteric. Its spiritual new age info with a practical twist. I highly recommend it! Check it out at http://www.sayahda.com

Enjoy, Terra2

[Sir. Loone]

Life has purpose, and it has meaning!
To our Creator all the Glory!:)

[ripleofdeath]

gggrrrr
sir loone!
must you use god and your beliefs like a tom cat would its
urine? :confused:

meeeooowwww :D

groove on all :)
ps the linkey thingey doesnt seem to work! ? :)

[Sir. Loone]

Ripleofdeath, take it easy there, it's only my faith oppinion!:D
I and a huge host of people believes there is a purpose to life!:)
Purpose to live life to the fullest, and hope for a better one to come, nothing wrong with that! :D
Would say more, but on the Christian Forum. :)
Life has purpose, enjoy it!

[Porfiry]

hehe...

Stop urinating on my forums!! egads...you're going to short out the servers !!!

[Sir. Loone]

Yes, life definitely has meaning and purpose. :)
And pardon the wetness, it's a bye product, but the truth even here must be told. Or must be known to those with there ears plugged. ;)

It really would be quite depressing to go around thinking that ye had no purpose, even in reality it's self, shows we and the animal kingdom has purpose in life. :) Everything good or evil has purpose!

Believe that there is purpose & meaning to all life, Earth, universe, and beyond, and just enjoy life and be happy! :)

[Chagur]

There, you have it Loone, thanks to Porfiry!

The Greens, being far wiser than us, and having chosen to remain sedentary, stationary, and meditative, complete unto themselves, realized there are downsides to their chosen path ... and created other forms of life to fertilize the soil and assist in propagation.

That is our purpose!

The same purpose as the rest of the non-Green life on this planet!

Now go to sleep and dream of pissing on Porfiry's servers.

[Sir. Loone]

Yes.., but we have a far greater purpose and meaning to our life's then to just fertilize the ground! :D

[Sir. Loone]

Originally posted by Chagur
There, you have it Loone, thanks to Porfiry!

The Greens, being far wiser than us, and having chosen to remain sedentary, stationary, and meditative, complete unto themselves, realized there are downsides to their chosen path ... and created other forms of life to fertilize the soil and assist in propagation.

That is our purpose!

The same purpose as the rest of the non-Green life on this planet!

Now go to sleep and dream of pissing on Porfiry's servers. Chauger, we humans do have already a far higher purpose and meaning to life, then to fertilize the plant kingdom with our selves! :D
We humans need purpose and meaning, so enjoy life with meaning and purpose, it's the way to go. :)

[Chagur]

Well yeah, like being 'fruitful' and multiplying to make sure the Greenies have what they need.. Which I've already done, thank you. My way of thanking them for setting up the base for the food chain that I pretty much sit on top of.

[wet1]

If you're not fruitful and don't multiply, there's always fertlizer to be had. In quite some quanity if McVie (?) is to be believed.

[ripleofdeath]

(LOL-wet1)
:eek: :rolleyes:
now your asking for it
look sir loone im glad to see that you feel you have purpose in life
but that is not the thread that was started!
do you understand that?
inspite of the link not working for me :/
so ... sir loone....! who was it that told YOU what your purpose is?
GOD? did god tell you himself?
or did some person living in hippocracey tell you how to act and think?
THINK OF THIS>
if we are to assume for a second that god as such is real!>
then surely the pupose of a being that has been created by a god
is to be everything it can and wants!
the purpose in its self is to serve its own goals because god created the nature of non purpose!
duality of existance through balance to mesure........?
what...? ego? greed?
when the teacher is ready the student will come!
when the student is ready the teacher will come!
is that not gods way?
point to this if you've missed it.

dont shout others down with your blind agresion to convert others to your belief system!

is that self explanitory?
i hope so.
there are so many amazing things in this universe we need to be able to look without ego centric self satisfactional blinkering.

go in peace....and come in knoledge!

groove on all :)

[Sir. Loone]

Ripleofdeath:

Oh yes all life has purpose and meaning, here on Earth and elswhere. :)

And I know you know where we Christians get the purpose and meaning of life from! :D [say more on the Christian Forum] :o

And it makes far far better since then what I have read here a few days ago, which was and would be grossly depressing to say , life serves no purpose and have no meaning, not acceptable sayings to the one that has a greater knowledge then the unregenerate peoples. :rolleyes:

It's better to know even you have purpose in life, and meaning to your existence!:)

Ye 'free moral agents' could not really function well, if at all, with out having some since of purpose in life, and meaning in life!
You humans are not animals, you are much higher order then that! Aah......, I am human to!:D But I and others had come to know the truth, and nothing but the truth rules our thoughts in light of having purpose and meaning in life! So there's no getting upset because ye think ye is a monkey's uncle, or killing someone to relieve stress. Because ye have not, or don't know [or want to know] the meaning and purpose of life, even when it is slapping ye in the face . :D

Have meaning and purpose to your existence!
Enjoy live wile it last!:rolleyes:

[novice]

Sir Loon,
I don't think your a christian at all. You just like winding people up.
novice

[Sir. Loone]

Originally posted by novice
Sir Loon,
I don't think your a Christian at all. You just like winding people up.
novice

That's incorrect, "Novice," I am a child of God!:cool:
And would say more on the Christian Forum.
So we all have meaning and purpose in life, because of what we are, good or evil, all to the glory of our creator!

Novice, have meaning and purpose to your life!:)

[novice]

Dear Sir Loon,
Yes we all have a purpose. "WHAT IS IT"? Can you tell me from personal experience rather than quotes?
In Bhuddism it is taught that you shouldn't believe anything until you experience it for yourself. That's not asking too much.
Novice

[novice]

Dear Sir Loon,
Yes we all have a purpose. "WHAT IS IT"? Can you tell me from personal experience rather than quotes?
In Bhuddism it is taught that you shouldn't believe anything until you experience it for yourself. That's not asking too much I don't think.
Novice

[Sir. Loone]

Hi 'Novice',

I could tell you on the Christian Forum, better there because of the DEEP Faith issue. :)
Will post in a day or two, have to study the Holy Word.

Life really doe's have purpose and meaning! A 'high' purpose for the Human-race! :D

[glaucon]

I find it interesting that such an argument can arise simply from merely 2 words that occurred in terra2's sentence. They weren't even particularly significant words in the sentence in my opinion.
However, the whole thing makes me wonder why people are so quick to jump to sides of the argument at all. Especially when simply mentioning the words "life purpose" begs the question...
i.e. : taking a side here automatically agrees to a teleological view of life.
I think that would be the better discussion.
Ah well..

[Chagur]

Would love to participate ... if I knew what 'a teleological view of life' was!

[glaucon]

Teleology: a natural theory arguing that all things 'behave' with purpose, towards a particular end. Most prominent in the works of Aristotle, and therefore the basis of most contemporary scientific methods.

Basically all I was saying is that the assumption was made that there is, or has to be a purpose to the soul, or life or both together.

Just playing Devil's advocate.

[Chagur]

Thanks for the feed-back, glaucon.

Go to it and have fun. Just don't jump on the Greenies.

(all though, considering some of the positions already
taken, I don't think the Devil needs an advocate)

[Sir. Loone]

Yes you as a human in the human-race has a 'higher' purpose and a 'higher' calling then of the animal kingdom! [To the Glory of GOD!] And a greater meaning to each individual that ever lived, created in the Creator's image! Far more then being an 'mega-distant' offspring of a monkey's uncle! :D And to that an ETERNAL purpose!

So let the wheat grow with the tares! It will all work out in the END. :)

[glaucon]

Originally posted by Sir. Loone
Yes you as a human in the human-race has a 'higher' purpose and a 'higher' calling then of the animal kingdom! [To the Glory of GOD!] And a greater meaning to each individual that ever lived, created in the Creator's image! Far more then being an 'mega-distant' offspring of a monkey's uncle! :D And to that an ETERNAL purpose!

So let the wheat grow with the tares! It will all work out in the END. :)

LOL

I'm sorry. I thought this was to be a serious discussion, not one of fantasy.

The mind is a terrible thing to waste. (on faith)

[Cris]

glaucon,


Originally posted by glaucon LOL

I'm sorry. I thought this was to be a serious discussion, not one of fantasy.

The mind is a terrible thing to waste. (on faith)

Hi and welcome. Don't worry about Loone, you can safely ignore him, he is our local village idiot. None of the rational members here take him seriously.

He lives entirey in a faith based dreamworld- and as you rightly observe - what a waste.

Cris

[novice]

I'd just like to sing a few words from a Pink Floyd song. " We're all just lost souls, swimming in a fish bowl year after year.....la la la....Comfortably numb..."
That one's for Sir Loone.
novice.

[ripleofdeath]

hey all :)
@_@
\___/

any links on the topic would be apreciated.
thnks

groove on all :)

[Sir. Loone]

Originally posted by glaucon


LOL

I'm sorry. I thought this was to be a serious discussion, not one of fantasy.

The mind is a terrible thing to waste. (on faith)
Glaucon:

This is about realty and is it is the truth about human existence! Even the animals of the animal Kingdom has purpose and meaning to there existence!:D To the Glory of GOD! It is the fact of all existence, and the whole universe!:) The Bible is very real and factual then you,[ that head or heart is blocked with pride] could presently see! (blinded) But you and all are created by the Creator for a far higher purpose then to reconstitute the ground!:rolleyes: (fertilizer) or (worm food) ! No life and the truth of GOD's Holy Words are not fables, but history and truth of our existence! To the Glory of GOD!:)

This is serious, about why you are here[on Earth] and what purpose and meaning you serve in life and life it self.

[Sir. Loone]

Originally posted by Cris
glaucon,



Hi and welcome. Don't worry about Loone, you can safely ignore him, he is our local village idiot. None of the rational members here take him seriously.

He lives entirey in a faith based dreamworld- and as you rightly observe - what a waste.

Cris
Hi Cris! :p :D

You know you are the 'fool' here, "for the fool has said in his heart, there is no God." And the fool and there folly shell soon pass away, but the Righteous shell dwell in the House of the Lord (Jesus) forever! You still have time to come to Jesus for the forgiveness of sins!
Fools!
"The blind leads the blind, and both shall fall into the ditch!" :cool:

Don't be deceived by your own lies, Chris and others, the truth is my Faith in GOD is based entirely on the Word of GOD which is the ultimate Truth. And you are on sinking sand! (Quick sand) or a (sink hole) :) You have no real foundation except in a lie.

And great will be the fall of them that believes in a lie!

[Tiassa]

the truth is my Faith in GOD is based entirely on the Word of GOD which is the ultimate Truth.The truth is, Sir ZenJeep Loone that you've dug yourself an interesting hole.
You have no real foundation except in a lie. Neither of these can you demonstrate as a stand-alone reality. Nor can you demonstrate them concurrently. We realize that your faith in God is entirely your choice, and thus so is the behavior that results from that faith.

And there is another thing which seems to slip your grasp: Your example of Christian faith demonstrates it to be the supertitions of the ingnorant. Now, this is just fine, when compared to history; after all, the church has always targeted the least-educated members of society because they're easiest to fleece. But it should be noted that this appeal to ignorance and superstition is exactly what discredits the legitimacy of the faith itself: it refuses to examine itself because it is cognitively incapable.

In two thousand years, the cornerstone arguments upholding Christianity have never changed, and never proven true. To the other, the meaning of those cornerstone arguments still isn't clear to the faithful. The evidence indicates that none of your statements in your last post (and most of your others) have anything to support them bur your own arrogance, as evidenced by such a shamefully childish post.

--Tiassa :cool:

[Cris]

Loone,

Why not include the full quote.


The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none that does good. (Psalms 14.1) RSV 1952.

So all atheists are pretty bad huh?

Jesus, of course, a paradigm of love and compassion, orders that nonbelievers will be thrown “into the furnace of fire” where “men will weep and gnash their teeth,” just as “the weeds are gathered and burned with fire…” (Mathew 13.40-42).

Plato (400 BCE) recommended 5 years of imprisonment for a first offence and death for the 2nd offence.

Thomas Aquinas, from medieval times, taught, “The sin of unbelief is greater than any sin that occurs in the perversion of morals”. He recommended that such people be exterminated from the world by death” after the third offence.

Indeed the persecution of atheists continues to this day. Even as recently as the early part of the 20th century it was illegal, in many US states, for atheists to testify in a court of law.

So Loone, you should feel in good company in your accusations and condemnation of atheists. While I suspect you would strongly support my being put to death, assuming you have unquestioning belief in the words of Jesus, it is unfortunately not so easy these days. It must be very sad for you to see the continued erosion of the power for Christians to murder atheists. The idea of human rights must also be a difficult ideology for you to tolerate: This terrible idea that people should not be imprisoned or killed for expressing certain thoughts.

But history shows that indeed the power of Christians to seriously repress and subvert the human rights of many people has dwindled very significantly. We have gone from the word of Jesus, 2000 years ago, who inspired Christians to kill atheists on sight, through medieval times where at least imprisonment was tried first, to the present time where in the past 5 years we have seen a rapid rise in organizations such as ‘The Atheist Alliance’ (a worldwide organization), and the ‘Freethought society’, and the organization for the ‘Freedom from religion’, and many more. But finally one of the last bastions of religious bias has begun to fall, politics, we now have an atheist Governor in the form of Jesse Ventura in Minnesota. It is but a beginning but it does show an inexorable trend.

But why is this trend occurring? What has been happening throughout the past 2000 years that would erode the power of Christians to support indiscriminate murder and repression of the freedom of thought? I think the answer is very clear – knowledge and education, or in other words the erosion of widespread ignorance, and the increase in the understanding of the world. With this increase in knowledge comes compassion, laws, civilization, intolerance of tyranny, and reason.

The conclusion is clear: Early Christianity and its eagerness for murder is equated with ignorance and terror, and with the decline of the Christian power of terror comes learning, understanding and wisdom.

But of course as I am sure you will remind us: Wisdom, understanding, reason, are all the traits of Satan and must be despised by Christians, right?

Cris

[Sir. Loone]

Originally posted by tiassa
The truth is, Sir ZenJeep Loone that you've dug yourself an interesting hole.Neither of these can you demonstrate as a stand-alone reality. Nor can you demonstrate them concurrently. We realize that your faith in God is entirely your choice, and thus so is the behavior that results from that faith.

And there is another thing which seems to slip your grasp: Your example of Christian faith demonstrates it to be the supertitions of the ingnorant. Now, this is just fine, when compared to history; after all, the church has always targeted the least-educated members of society because they're easiest to fleece. But it should be noted that this appeal to ignorance and superstition is exactly what discredits the legitimacy of the faith itself: it refuses to examine itself because it is cognitively incapable.

In two thousand years, the cornerstone arguments upholding Christianity have never changed, and never proven true. To the other, the meaning of those cornerstone arguments still isn't clear to the faithful. The evidence indicates that none of your statements in your last post (and most of your others) have anything to support them bur your own arrogance, as evidenced by such a shamefully childish post.

--Tiassa :cool:

Tiassa, your posts are of arrogance, errors , and the lie of the Devil that the Word of GOD is not founded on truth and is reality, that shows your ignorance of what you do not understand!:o
I stand in the Word of GOD and believe in what it says, and it is the "Inerrant Word of GOD", you have been greatly deceived of self and of Satan himself to make that statement about me and the Word of God! I am not prideful in my statements but to point to God who has given us the truth of the Holy Scriptures.
But you are in your own pride , and God see's your pride as "filthy rages" or very dirty diapers, and so being very repulsive in His sight!:eek: But as for me I am covered by the 'Blood of the Lame of GOD', that I have an advocate with the Father (God), my Great High Preast, who will forgive me of sins, and is faithful and just to forgive my sins! But you have only your self and the lies about our Faith in the Holy Scriptures, which lies that are foolishness and falsehoods of arrogant thinking !

I sincerely believe in the truth of the Gospel, the Word of GOD and it is our (Christian) firm foundation!:) I here and elsewhere when standing for my Faith in Jesus and His Word, do it not to please men but of GOD, by Faith! For with out Faith in God, it is impossible to please Him! Jesus Christ now lives in me! In Spirit, the Holy Spirit! And it is written that no power in Heaven or Earth or beneath could ever separate us (true Christians) from the Love of Jesus! You should check out the Word of God more carefully, and with an more open mind, there's more to this then an collection of words of old! Jesus is my Lord and Saviour and still can set you free from Satan's dominating strong-hole in you!

Don't keep stumbling on your own lies about the Bible and it's truths, and my Faith in God' Words! Study more all of you, there is still far more then you think of the absolute truths of the Holy Bible!

The mentioning of the Truth of God's Word as being "supertitions" is of pure ignorance, and your words have no that has no bases in realty! Wake up Tiassa! The[ Real ] Truth shell set you free! Standing on lies will cause a great fall!:eek:

[Sir. Loone]

Originally posted by Cris
Loone,

Why not include the full quote.



So all atheists are pretty bad huh?

Jesus, of course, a paradigm of love and compassion, orders that nonbelievers will be thrown “into the furnace of fire” where “men will weep and gnash their teeth,” just as “the weeds are gathered and burned with fire…” (Mathew 13.40-42).

Plato (400 BCE) recommended 5 years of imprisonment for a first offence and death for the 2nd offence.

Thomas Aquinas, from medieval times, taught, “The sin of unbelief is greater than any sin that occurs in the perversion of morals”. He recommended that such people be exterminated from the world by death” after the third offence.

Indeed the persecution of atheists continues to this day. Even as recently as the early part of the 20th century it was illegal, in many US states, for atheists to testify in a court of law.

So Loone, you should feel in good company in your accusations and condemnation of atheists. While I suspect you would strongly support my being put to death, assuming you have unquestioning belief in the words of Jesus, it is unfortunately not so easy these days. It must be very sad for you to see the continued erosion of the power for Christians to murder atheists. The idea of human rights must also be a difficult ideology for you to tolerate: This terrible idea that people should not be imprisoned or killed for expressing certain thoughts.

But history shows that indeed the power of Christians to seriously repress and subvert the human rights of many people has dwindled very significantly. We have gone from the word of Jesus, 2000 years ago, who inspired Christians to kill atheists on sight, through medieval times where at least imprisonment was tried first, to the present time where in the past 5 years we have seen a rapid rise in organizations such as ‘The Atheist Alliance’ (a worldwide organization), and the ‘Freethought society’, and the organization for the ‘Freedom from religion’, and many more. But finally one of the last bastions of religious bias has begun to fall, politics, we now have an atheist Governor in the form of Jesse Ventura in Minnesota. It is but a beginning but it does show an inexorable trend.

But why is this trend occurring? What has been happening throughout the past 2000 years that would erode the power of Christians to support indiscriminate murder and repression of the freedom of thought? I think the answer is very clear – knowledge and education, or in other words the erosion of widespread ignorance, and the increase in the understanding of the world. With this increase in knowledge comes compassion, laws, civilization, intolerance of tyranny, and reason.

The conclusion is clear: Early Christianity and its eagerness for murder is equated with ignorance and terror, and with the decline of the Christian power of terror comes learning, understanding and wisdom.

But of course as I am sure you will remind us: Wisdom, understanding, reason, are all the traits of Satan and must be despised by Christians, right?

Cris

Chris; All liars will have there part in the Lake of Fire! But only if one continues in that mind set of having nothing to do with God, and if unto there deaths they will have to each stand alone at the Great White Thrown of Judgement all by them selves! God is a loving and just God, and this is called the Age of Grace, 2000 years after Jesus's ascension in to Heaven God would give some people a life time to find Him in the knowledge of the truth (Word of God), but if they still reject even unto death they will have to face the Almighty God alone by them selves, without Jesus on there side, "It is a terrible thing, to fall into the hands of the Living GOD." So in this life time, some [unbelievers] will seem to live a long life, but after that the Judgment! Some may hear the Word of God and reject it, may die and go into eternity lost. Others may hear the Word of God and keep it in there hearts but will wander away, enticed by there own lust. But God is fair, He doesn't want 'robots', He wants you to come to Him by Faith and of your free will and calling of the Holy Spirit! It's not over for you until it's over in this life. In Heaven or in Hell one would still have the same personality but there is a big difference in ether place.:)

[Cris]

tiassa,

He's becoming worse. I really didn't see much real attempt in his last two posts to refute our specific issues. It looks mostly like vacuous religious rhetoric.

But I did have to do a little useful research putting my post together, so he has some value.

Cris

[Sir. Loone]

Tiassa is 'stoned' alright, on drugs, alcohol and loud music!:D
Come out of your hole Tiassa! I stand for the truth!
Have meaning and purpose to your existence among the living!
All the UNIVERSE was created to the Glory of God! For His good pleaser, and ours!:D

[Tiassa]

Do you have a point other than childish deflection? I can just see you sitting in the middle of an empty room with your legs splayed out and your eyes shut, fists waving in the air, shouting to everyone: I'm right, dammit, and because I'm right I don't have to prove it! So all of you can go to hell! And you seem to wish it was so. Take a look at some of your statements:

* your posts are of arrogance, errors , and the lie of the Devil that the Word of GOD is not founded on truth and is reality, that shows your ignorance of what you do not understand Ready? "Am not." "Are too." "Am not!" "Are too!"

Okay, now that we're past that point, would you care to demonstrate your wisdom compared to my ignorance?

Didn't think so.

* I stand in the Word of GOD and believe in what it says, and it is the "Inerrant Word of GOD" ... Why do you believe in what it says, and what establishes it as the Inerrant Word of God?

* you have been greatly deceived of self and of Satan himself to make that statement about me and the Word of God You cannot demonstrate the degree of that deception, the nature of that deception, nor if the deception even exists. I fully invite you to make the attempt; you can't possibly insult me by it--we're all waiting to see if you're capable of developing an argument that is either coherent or objective. We won't expect both at once, though. Wouldn't want to put the pressure on, after all. Wouldn't want to persecute you by disagreeing with your untestable theses.

* I am not prideful in my statements but to point to God who has given us the truth of the Holy Scriptures.Loone, if ever there was evidence of God, that might have been it. The outright bullshit factor of that statement transcends humanity. Only a divine entity could generate that much crap with one sentence. Wow ... you almost did it there. I'll remind you that I'm not the one out cutting down souls for Jesus with a Sword of Spirit. You have demonstrated your excess pride with such a statement.

* But you are in your own pride , and God see's your pride as "filthy rages" or very dirty diapers, and so being very repulsive in His sight!Says you. I didn't realize you were the Metatron.

* But as for me I am covered by the 'Blood of the Lame Yes, Zenjeep, that you certainly are.

* that I have an advocate with the Father (God), my Great High Preast, who will forgive me of sins, and is faithful and just to forgive my sinsSo you believe a book that tells you that you must believe it true or else you will be punished? Welcome to superstition. Demonstrate any of that feldergarb objectively. I dare you.

* But you have only your self and the lies about our Faith in the Holy Scriptures, which lies that are foolishness and falsehoods of arrogant thinking ! Then I'm getting the hang of your faith: lies, foolishness, and falsehoods of arrogance. Come on, Zenjeep, don't you have anything better than your repeated tantrums?
I sincerely believe in the truth of the Gospel, the Word of GOD and it is our (Christian) firm foundation! I here and elsewhere when standing for my Faith in Jesus and His Word, do it not to please men but of GOD, by Faith! For with out Faith in God, it is impossible to please Him! Jesus Christ now lives in me! In Spirit, the Holy Spirit! And it is written that no power in Heaven or Earth or beneath could ever separate us (true Christians) from the Love of Jesus! You should check out the Word of God more carefully, and with an more open mind, there's more to this then an collection of words of old! Jesus is my Lord and Saviour and still can set you free from Satan's dominating strong-hole in you! You know, if you do that on TV, people will send you millions. They're that dumb, y'know.

And Zenjeep, Jesus may have been humble, but at some point the tenement gets to be too much. Jesus Christ is not alive in you; I do not deny your divine implications, but rather declare that Jesus Christ would have little to do with your heart without cleaning it out with some ammonia first. Every misplaced superstition you declare, every superlative assumption, every blasphemy against his Peace, bleeds the Savior. Jesus can do much better work if he isn't trapped in one heart that yearns to step on him in the name of Glory. The deliberation of your pursuit of salvation will be its undoing, you greedy, whining waer-loga.

* Don't keep stumbling on your own lies about the Bible and it's truths, and my Faith in God' Words! Study more all of you, there is still far more then you think of the absolute truths of the Holy Bible![/quote] Zenjeep I would strongly advise that the next time you express that sentence, you do it in front of a mirror while looking yourself in the soul.

* [color=red]The mentioning of the Truth of God's Word as being "supertitions" is of pure ignorance, and your words have no that has no bases in realty! You have done nothing to demonstrate the truth of this assertion except whine like a dog in heat. Don't just stamp your feet and yell at everyone. Demonstrate the truth of your unfounded, undemonstrable assertion. Demonstrate the undemonstrable? That's right, you can't do that. So realize what you're doing to the credibility of your precious Lord Jesus whom you blaspheme regularly.

If Jesus weeps, it's because y'all won't stop bleeding him.

* The[ Real ] Truth shell set you free! Standing on lies will cause a great fall!As evidenced by the failure of Christianity to ever achieve any recognizable fraction of its advertised potential. Two thousand years of history back me on that, Zenjeep: all you have on your side is your interpretation of the Bible. Whether or not you can verify, validate, confirm, or otherwise support that interpretation as anything beyond your own puerile fantasy depends entirely on whether or not you care enough about it to discover what it means. Otherwise, all of your comparative talk, your excoriations of diverse thought, and your devotion to a militaristic religion equal exactly that: your talk. Just because I have the Seattle Mariners' 2001 Press Guide does not mean I know baseball. Just because you own a Bible does not mean you know God. Yet you speak as if your name was Metatron.

Hmm ... did you actually have anything of significance to say in that post?

Didn't think so.

--Tiassa :cool:

[Sir. Loone]

Originally posted by Cris
tiassa,

He's becoming worse. I really didn't see much real attempt in his last two posts to refute our specific issues. It looks mostly like vacuous religious rhetoric.

But I did have to do a little useful research putting my post together, so he has some value.

Cris Awe come on Cris! Just keep reading that Bible and you may see the light!:) And I am not trying to be hostile, I am merely pointing the way! God and all of the Word of God is totally REAL! 100% cover to cover! And the only way to truly know the Word of God is by the power of the Holy Spirit of God that can dwell in you, if you let Him! He is not an it but a real person that you and Tiassa needs to know!

Have a real meaning and purpose to life! A life that is forever more!:)

[Sir. Loone]

Originally posted by tiassa
Do you have a point other than childish deflection? I can just see you sitting in the middle of an empty room with your legs splayed out and your eyes shut, fists waving in the air, shouting to everyone: I'm right, dammit, and because I'm right I don't have to prove it! So all of you can go to hell! And you seem to wish it was so. Take a look at some of your statements:

* your posts are of arrogance, errors , and the lie of the Devil that the Word of GOD is not founded on truth and is reality, that shows your ignorance of what you do not understand Ready? "Am not." "Are too." "Am not!" "Are too!"

Okay, now that we're past that point, would you care to demonstrate your wisdom compared to my ignorance?

Didn't think so.

* I stand in the Word of GOD and believe in what it says, and it is the "Inerrant Word of GOD" ... Why do you believe in what it says, and what establishes it as the Inerrant Word of God?

* you have been greatly deceived of self and of Satan himself to make that statement about me and the Word of God You cannot demonstrate the degree of that deception, the nature of that deception, nor if the deception even exists. I fully invite you to make the attempt; you can't possibly insult me by it--we're all waiting to see if you're capable of developing an argument that is either coherent or objective. We won't expect both at once, though. Wouldn't want to put the pressure on, after all. Wouldn't want to persecute you by disagreeing with your untestable theses.

* I am not prideful in my statements but to point to God who has given us the truth of the Holy Scriptures.Loone, if ever there was evidence of God, that might have been it. The outright bullshit factor of that statement transcends humanity. Only a divine entity could generate that much crap with one sentence. Wow ... you almost did it there. I'll remind you that I'm not the one out cutting down souls for Jesus with a Sword of Spirit. You have demonstrated your excess pride with such a statement.

* But you are in your own pride , and God see's your pride as "filthy rages" or very dirty diapers, and so being very repulsive in His sight!Says you. I didn't realize you were the Metatron.

* But as for me I am covered by the 'Blood of the Lame Yes, Zenjeep, that you certainly are.

* that I have an advocate with the Father (God), my Great High Preast, who will forgive me of sins, and is faithful and just to forgive my sinsSo you believe a book that tells you that you must believe it true or else you will be punished? Welcome to superstition. Demonstrate any of that feldergarb objectively. I dare you.

* But you have only your self and the lies about our Faith in the Holy Scriptures, which lies that are foolishness and falsehoods of arrogant thinking ! Then I'm getting the hang of your faith: lies, foolishness, and falsehoods of arrogance. Come on, Zenjeep, don't you have anything better than your repeated tantrums?You know, if you do that on TV, people will send you millions. They're that dumb, y'know.

And Zenjeep, Jesus may have been humble, but at some point the tenement gets to be too much. Jesus Christ is not alive in you; I do not deny your divine implications, but rather declare that Jesus Christ would have little to do with your heart without cleaning it out with some ammonia first. Every misplaced superstition you declare, every superlative assumption, every blasphemy against his Peace, bleeds the Savior. Jesus can do much better work if he isn't trapped in one heart that yearns to step on him in the name of Glory. The deliberation of your pursuit of salvation will be its undoing, you greedy, whining waer-loga.

* [color=red]Don't keep stumbling on your own lies about the Bible and it's truths, and my Faith in God' Words! Study more all of you, there is still far more then you think of the absolute truths of the Holy Bible! Zenjeep I would strongly advise that the next time you express that sentence, you do it in front of a mirror while looking yourself in the soul.

* The mentioning of the Truth of God's Word as being "supertitions" is of pure ignorance, and your words have no that has no bases in realty! You have done nothing to demonstrate the truth of this assertion except whine like a dog in heat. Don't just stamp your feet and yell at everyone. Demonstrate the truth of your unfounded, undemonstrable assertion. Demonstrate the undemonstrable? That's right, you can't do that. So realize what you're doing to the credibility of your precious Lord Jesus whom you blaspheme regularly.

If Jesus weeps, it's because y'all won't stop bleeding him.

* The[ Real ] Truth shell set you free! Standing on lies will cause a great fall!As evidenced by the failure of Christianity to ever achieve any recognizable fraction of its advertised potential. Two thousand years of history back me on that, Zenjeep: all you have on your side is your interpretation of the Bible. Whether or not you can verify, validate, confirm, or otherwise support that interpretation as anything beyond your own puerile fantasy depends entirely on whether or not you care enough about it to discover what it means. Otherwise, all of your comparative talk, your excoriations of diverse thought, and your devotion to a militaristic religion equal exactly that: your talk. Just because I have the Seattle Mariners' 2001 Press Guide does not mean I know baseball. Just because you own a Bible does not mean you know God. Yet you speak as if your name was Metatron.

Hmm ... did you actually have anything of significance to say in that post?

Didn't think so.

--Tiassa :cool: [/QUOTE]

Tiassa; The Truth will prevail, it always will!:) And I had much to say, but the 'god' of this world has blinded the minds of unbelievers so that they can not come to the knowledge of the truth!
Get thy house in order!:) Keep reading the Word of GOD! It is the Absolute Truth form God Himself! Jesus still loves you and Cris!:D

[pragmathen]

<b>Loone</b>,

Miss-guided.
Miss-informed.
Mystified.

Okay, that last one was a stretch, but you get the point. Then again, based solely on your empty words and nil-thought-provoking comments, I could surmise that after all the fluff has run out of your mouth, you remain as deflated as before you puffed your chest up.

Axons fire within the brain, which is a chemical means of transferring electrical impulses along neurons, which is a means of communicating ideas and words and concepts. Unfortunately, Loone, your axons have been fried, making the gap between each axon that much greater. Your ill-suited action potentials must work that much harder in order to bridge the ever-widening gap between coherent connections.

As <b>tiassa</b> points out: <i>When you enter into the fold of Christ, you leave your intellect at the door</i>. Of course, it requires intellect to realize this point. Since you don't realize this point, a logical conclusion can be reached. Perhaps, if you did, you would understand why someone with a thinking and reasoning and <i>questioning</i> brain would not be welcomed inside the halls of Christ. Mustn't think outside of the box--the outside world is pure concentrated evil which is just waiting for the right time to get inside the chink in your mail and corrupt you everlastingly.

You seem to have a wholly fallacious outlook on non-believers. You seem to think that, if perchance, you were to venture out into the outside world, you would be greeted with miserable wretches chanting, "Ha, now you're here with us. Suffer as we do!" Ah, but we do indeed suffer. We suffer through the rhetoric-spewing troglodytes such as yourself--those that think without applying thought, reason without using logic, and question without searching for answers.

If you were to sit back, once. Just once. And take a broader view of what others were trying to tell you, then perhaps your infantile reactionary words would carry more weight. As it is, you sink back into that hole of ignorance--very comfortable, wouldn't you say? Nice and cosy in there. Climbing outside of the hole would imply that you seek to learn. At the very least, that you seek to understand things from another's point of view. Much too difficult. Better to stay in the hole and the cave. Better to think the shadows on the wall dancing from the light of the fire behind you are real. The outside world is much too bright. The cave has never deceived you, so what if the outside is much clearer.

The cave reaches into your brain and steals whatever remains of your enfeebled axon connections. Wither and die out, they will, through disuse.

It doesn't have to be like that, though. You could try. Just for once. Just to see. Think differently and see where it gets you. Your brain will thank you for it.

Of course, this will undoubtedly enter in one ear and exit through the other, <b>Loone</b>, unperturbed.

[ripleofdeath]

so stated all!= god is vein and self serving!
builds things(worlds) for "his" own ammusement and enjoys to watch people suffer horrendouse suffering untill violent death.
and forgives no one!

and yet to be a christian and be saved by this god one must be everything "he" is not!

does that not make the devil devine?

for trueth can only be while one is accustomed to lies!

the TRUETH in god (as stated by sir loone)[the "sir" part shows huge ego and self importance which is a big sin!]
is nothing but repeatedly affirmed lies.
look at the USA (just to use one country we all are vaugely familiar with)
it has 2 major religons that govern the country-jewdaism and christianity both cannot acept the other and yet the majority of the population are BELIEVERS yet has just as high a crime rate as any other country.

need i go on?
dinner calls anywho... :D

tiassa-cris-prag......... only those able to reason can be reasonable :D

groove on all :)

[Cris]

rip,

Right on.

[Sir. Loone]

Never the less the truth (the Absolute Truth) prevails!:D
All life has it's purpose, and the human race has a far better meaning to it's existence then to just end up as 'worm-food'!:rolleyes: It's to Glorify God his creator that created mankind in His (GOD's) image! You are not a mutated monkey! You are not of 'primordial-ooze'! You were come from the ground but of GOD's design, and you were "fearfully and wonderfully made!" Be glade you have an higher calling then the animal Kingdom!:cool: God gave you free will, try to use it for the good of mankind and better yet for your Creator!:cool:

Judgement day is coming!:eek: Get ready for your Creator will return!

"Woe unto them that call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter." (Isaiah 5:20) NIV. You would have all of morality turned upside down for your own fabrications!:o :)
But the truth can still set you free!

Jesus cares! Jesus saves! And is the light of the world! [not talking about the sun up in the sky!]

[Cris]

Loone,

Please go and preach somewhere else.

Your ramblings are sickeningly creepy and obnoxious.

Cris

[Sir. Loone]

All life comes from God, and will return unto Him! There is a presents that only the redeemed can since! It is God the all knowing and Almighty! Yes it is written that all was created to the Glory of GOD! HAVE FUN! ENJOY THE CREATION! For time will soon be no more!
Believe it or not!:cool:

[Cris]

Loone,

Yes very nice I am sure, very nice font and very large of course. So now you are done, then feel free to leave.

[novice]

I had a wrangle with my boss today and we ended up agreeing that I should resign. (This is cool, I have a much better job to go to). The meeting could have gone either way. I could have blown my top and ended up with no job and no money(my employer, ex employer has the power to freeze bank accounts in this country). The point is it was up to me how to handle it, and I reckon I did alright, considering it's Friday the 13th today.
A guy once said to me, "never burn your bridges". So my current thought on "Life's soul purpose" is to LEARN as much as you can from experiences and put them to some use one day, weather t be for yourself, a friend or a stranger. Sometimes we tap into the universal energy that surrounds us. "The Force" if you like. and it guides us. It usually appears in the form of that little voice that pinoccio wouldn't listen to. Call him/her/it what you want, but our job is to see if we can be still long enough to actually hear Jimmeny Cricket.
Cheers, Novice.

[Sir. Loone]

I still say life has a much broader and far deeper and far reaching meaning and purpose! Man is far more then an animal that has to just survive and get ahead! And God is not a 'cosmic-force' but a real 'Person'! Man is created in His image to the Glory of GOD! Though we are a 'fallen race', we still can live and grow to the Glory of GOD through Jesus!

I do say, good for you 'Novice'!:cool:

[Sir. Loone]

Originally posted by pragmathen
<b>Loone</b>,

Miss-guided.
Miss-informed.
Mystified.

Okay, that last one was a stretch, but you get the point. Then again, based solely on your empty words and nil-thought-provoking comments, I could surmise that after all the fluff has run out of your mouth, you remain as deflated as before you puffed your chest up.

Axons fire within the brain, which is a chemical means of transferring electrical impulses along neurons, which is a means of communicating ideas and words and concepts. Unfortunately, Loone, your axons have been fried, making the gap between each axon that much greater. Your ill-suited action potentials must work that much harder in order to bridge the ever-widening gap between coherent connections.

As <b>tiassa</b> points out: <i>When you enter into the fold of Christ, you leave your intellect at the door</i>. Of course, it requires intellect to realize this point. Since you don't realize this point, a logical conclusion can be reached. Perhaps, if you did, you would understand why someone with a thinking and reasoning and <i>questioning</i> brain would not be welcomed inside the halls of Christ. Mustn't think outside of the box--the outside world is pure concentrated evil which is just waiting for the right time to get inside the chink in your mail and corrupt you everlastingly.

You seem to have a wholly fallacious outlook on non-believers. You seem to think that, if perchance, you were to venture out into the outside world, you would be greeted with miserable wretches chanting, "Ha, now you're here with us. Suffer as we do!" Ah, but we do indeed suffer. We suffer through the rhetoric-spewing troglodytes such as yourself--those that think without applying thought, reason without using logic, and question without searching for answers.

If you were to sit back, once. Just once. And take a broader view of what others were trying to tell you, then perhaps your infantile reactionary words would carry more weight. As it is, you sink back into that hole of ignorance--very comfortable, wouldn't you say? Nice and cosy in there. Climbing outside of the hole would imply that you seek to learn. At the very least, that you seek to understand things from another's point of view. Much too difficult. Better to stay in the hole and the cave. Better to think the shadows on the wall dancing from the light of the fire behind you are real. The outside world is much too bright. The cave has never deceived you, so what if the outside is much clearer.

The cave reaches into your brain and steals whatever remains of your enfeebled axon connections. Wither and die out, they will, through disuse.

It doesn't have to be like that, though. You could try. Just for once. Just to see. Think differently and see where it gets you. Your brain will thank you for it.

Of course, this will undoubtedly enter in one ear and exit through the other, <b>Loone</b>, unperturbed.

Pragmathen,
:rolleyes: You are in the 'carnal-nature', (mind set) and Sir. Loone is mostly of the Spiritual and supernatural, that is Faith in the Word of GOD and GOD alone!:cool:

And tell Tiassa that I am not sitting down waving my hands and shouting, and carrying on!:rolleyes: But calm, quiet, and some times laughing:D , having a good time! Getting stronger in the Lord Jesus! It is a good work out for a layman like me, and is actually helping me grow in Faith. If you read carefully the Word of GOD you may find the truths that was spoken of!

Have meaning and purpose to life, your life has a greater meaning and purpose then to become ultimately 'worm-food', it is to the Glory of GOD the Creator!:) And far far more then the "survival of the fittest."

[novice]

Sir Loone. It's obvious you feel security and wellbeing from your faith, but why must it only relate to phrases from the Bible?
If you hadn't seen a picture of jesus would you know what he looks like? Yes, I know you can feel his love and all that, but I get the same feeling from meditating/praying but I don't have a name for it. It's there and it's a wonderful thing but when you start putting pictrures to things like that you get a distorted, ego related thing going on.
Sorry, a bit vague but I wish you'd chill out a bit on the God quotes.
Cheers .
Novice.

[thecurly1]

I haven't read all of those replies, except for Cris' first one. I don't personally Jesus, is going to kill or hurt those who don't believe in God. Those who renounce him, well that's another story. What would happen with those caught between worship, and renouncing God I don't know. Purgatory? Maybe, personally this should be in the Religious category.

I also believe in Tiassa's quote that "when you enter the fold of Christ you leave your intellect at the door". And that is the same of all religions. You can't really use science when approaching religious debates because religion and science are primarily separate entities of debate. It would be like using a ruler to measure how much water is in a glass. You could say there are three inches, but it still doesn't work for a multitude of reasons. I think you guys can understand where I'm going, don't want to get to long. Short and sweet is what I prefer, though I don't always stick to my motto.

[ripleofdeath]

and nair the twain shall meet!

so... if god created "man" in the image of god.
is it not rite to assume we should all create things to worship us!
as did god...for we are the image and are told to be like him!


?
god must be twisting in his etherial seat to read all this smallminded crap on how superior self rightiouse christians
subjegate others by social segragation and develop classist systems of church order... all in its name!

yipes.... only a fool can see his own reason, but all can see his accomplishments to others!

groove on all :)

[thecurly1]

The only reason I don't like to bring religion into threads like this is because they build a wild tangent that flies off the subject. There may be no exact meaning to life.

For me I'm gonna enjoy responsibly, and not hurt anyone in the process.

[Sir. Loone]

Originally posted by novice
Sir Loone. It's obvious you feel security and wellbeing from your faith, but why must it only relate to phrases from the Bible?
If you hadn't seen a picture of jesus would you know what he looks like? Yes, I know you can feel his love and all that, but I get the same feeling from meditating/praying but I don't have a name for it. It's there and it's a wonderful thing but when you start putting pictrures to things like that you get a distorted, ego related thing going on.
Sorry, a bit vague but I wish you'd chill out a bit on the God quotes.
Cheers .
Novice. Hi, Novice we should not depend on 'feelings' because it is and can be deceptive, I mostly have Faith that my Salvation is secured and that Jesus is my all in all.:)
Quotes from scripture is the Word of GOD against falsehoods and deceptions of the Evil one and the world that rejects what is truth of the Word of GOD. I don't really need to see Him (Jesus) to know that He is who He says He is!:) He has ways of showing me that I am His, and nothing can separate me from the Love of Jesus! I like science and astronomy and I would not be here if not have Faith in GOD and His Word, and some scientific curiosity, if not I would have far less to say if anything at all. Would not be here. But I enjoy reading the posts and learn something and keeps me thinking and reading (meditating) the Word of GOD (the ultimate truth)! Science is wonderful, but it is of mortal men an is 'finite', GOD is 'infinite' and so is His wisdom! This is a spiritual struggle! Man is a 'spiritual being' if they think so are not. Standing on the absolute truth of what I believe in, in GOD's Word the Bible and also examining the world around me and beyond! To the Glory of GOD!:D

Good day. :) And don't believe what is coming on TV on PBS (Public Broadcasting System) (July 24, Tuesday 2001) (at 8 pm or 9 pm central) (USA), about Jesus's grave was fund! It is a Lie from SATAN! Jesus is in Heaven at the right hand of the Father GOD in Heaven!! He has risen form the dead! And lives forever more! And is coming again soon!:eek: :cool:

[lythea]

Better to stay in the hole and the cave. Better to think the shadows on the wall dancing from the light of the fire behind you are real. The outside world is much too bright. The cave has never deceived you, so what if the outside is much clearer.

Hello, I'm new to this forum. But I just want to say that this "Analogy" of the cave" is one of the things I like to use for the existance of God. I think that Atheists might learn from this as their "logic" tells them there is no God just like the cave people believe their shadows are all there is. Just MHO. I don't like to get into arguments about Christ. I do believe in Him.

I will continue to enjoy reading all the posts and learn about all of you on this list. Very interesting reading!


:)

[Chagur]

The problem with leaving the 'cave' and it's 'shadows' is that you're doubly damned.

Having left the cave and given your eyes time to adjust to the brightness, and seeing the 'real' world ... loneliness draws you back to the cave ... the need to be with your own.

And when you return, you find yourself even more alone ... How can you communicate what you have seen? How can you have them ... even one ... leave the cave to see reality as you now know it exists?

And so, you spend your years hoping that someone else will have the courage to make that terrible trip ... see what you have seen ... and refresh your fading memory.

Thanks for including that metaphor in your post ... I hadn't thought of it for years.

[Sir. Loone]

All life in the heavens and the Earth, known and unknown, was created by GOD for His good pleaser! And to the glory of GOD the creator of all that is!

[ripleofdeath]

hey all
well i guess this might be my last post to this topic because it seems to be hurtling down the road of mindless babble from the christianly insane!....sir loone
the tomcat persists in pissing! :/
would you pull the pin from a handgrenade to see what happens also?
turn a stone on the beach and destroy the habitat and kill small creatures for your own entertainment?
"what is my point" you might ask (i assume)
why not try to be constructive?
you have successfully distorted this thread to your egocentric personal desires!
is that not a sin in its self?.... blind repetitive preaching.
like the king shouting at the sea...and so he drowned.
try and stay fluid!
to change and evolve is what we all must do to become more god like!
#if a door wont open by kicking it.....? then try something new/different.
EVOLVE> reason discussion patience understanding
Mearly some of the qualities of wise people!

groove on all :)
ps... you have just witnessed my life soul purpose! :D

[Sir. Loone]

Ripleofdeath: Have purpose and meaning to life! :) Know the Truth! And the Truth shell set you free! Reality is one prayer away!All life has purpose and meaning! And the humanrace has the highest! Better to be created in the image of GOD then that of 'monkey'! They still eat monkeys in the far east and elsewhere!:D

[Chagur]

They clamp the head to the edge of the table so the body is hanging, lop off the top of the skull, and eat the brains while the critter is still screeching and pissing and shitting.

Just in case you didn't know.

[glaucon]

What surprizes me most about the degredation of this discussion is how everyone is replying to the aptly named Sir Loone. People, you are not going to get him to wake up. Let him sleep soundly in his stupor. Ignore him! Conversely, seeing how he has a habit of disrupting potentially decent discussions here and elsewhere, perhaps someone could roll on over to the Christian threads and annoy him right back. Personally, I do not have the luxury of wasting time on such behavior, or myopic people like Sir Loone.

And to Sir Loone, in all sincerity I say to you that I am god.
(and I can discuss that notion with people who are intelligent enough to carry a discussion)

[Chagur]

glaucon

Be gentle with Sir.Lonne.

I used to feel the same way until I realized he's well meaning and harmless and got into reading his posts to see just which wall he's coming off now.

Besides, if it weren't for him ... how would I have had the chance to contribute my esoteric bit of monkey lore?

[novice]

Talking of birds being imprisoned. I have recently aquired a couple of budgies and built an aviary for them, big enough for my daughter to stand in and play with them. It still bothers me that they are not completely free. So to get off the very well trodden path of religion and all that let's talk about some other stuff,
In Thailand there's a way of gaining merit that I find a bit strange. When you go to a temple you might find someone with little cages full up with live sparrows. You pay the person and they let you set a bird free. More money, more birds. This apparently gives merit to you for freeing an animal. which, by the way never get very far because they are stonned from ganja and just end up back in the cage again once you're around the corner.

Or how about this? All Thais claim to be Bhuddist. but most of them eat meat which is not really condoned in Bhudda's teachings. But it's alright because they didn't kill it themselves.

What about you guys in the states, paying loads of insurance just to be able to drive a car, then getting stopped for minor offences and your insurance going up even more, but they're still churning out cars that can go 2 or 3 times the speed limit.
Hit me back with some replies
Novice.

[Chagur]

Life's sole purpose: To drive 120+ whenever you can!

Thank you, Novice ...

And your budgies too!

[Hypnogog]

Ah the continuance of the feeding of the economic machine.
Refering to the speed limit:
Here's a car that goes real fast! says the industry
Yippee! says us.
But you can't drive it that fast unless were not around. says the police.
Okay, we say, where are you going to be?
Oh around, somewhere and you must now live with the ever present threat that we MAY be close by at any moment setting traps just to catch you.
Hmm, say us, okay.
And the police merrily go off the coffee house safe in the knowledge that our own paranoia will restrain our behavior.

[Chagur]

Just a few years back Montana tried doing away with speed limits and ended up reinstating a 90 mph rather than 'reasonable and appropriate speed' - Too many out-of-staters coming to Montana to wail at 160+!

Seems the highway patrol got a little upset when they couldn't always justify 180 + being unreasonable or unsafe when the car was a F-40 Ferarri or Lambo or Porsche Twin Turbo.

[Sir. Loone]

I still say that we humans do have a higher purpose to our lives and meaning, then just a mad thrill ride!:D It is to the Glory of GOD our Creator in Heaven! And He will let the wheat grow up with the weeds (tires), and boy oh boy what a harvest it is going to be!:eek: :) Have meaning and purpose to your life!

[Chagur]

Sir. Loone

But I'm going to have to nick you on that one
I still say that we humans do have a higher purpose to our lives and meaning, then just a mad thrill ride!That, the mad thrill ride, is part of what makes us human, for whatever reason.

Just try and remember the first time you ran free as the breeze just for the hell of it and the feeling of satisfaction it gave you. The same goes for any other mode of 'running' free and fast.

[Bowser]

<i>"I still say that we humans do have a higher purpose to our lives and meaning...</i>

Both of you are wrong and right: <b>We give both purpose and meaning to life.</b>

Is 10,000 mine?

...Damn!

[blackhaz]

My thoughts on the life soul purpose (sorry for bad english):

I think that every creature on earth is a composite being consisting of material and etheric bodies. The consciousness is focused mostly on material aspect, but when you shift it to perceive in more higher (another) dimensions, it's not hard to notice the "higher-self" part of yourself standing behind any matter or consciousness.

Every action of higher-self is connected to every action in lower dimensions, such as material, as 3D objects create 2D shadows on lower-dimensional planes. While going higher and higher in dimensional planes, I started to understand that I am going towards the infinity, something unconditional, something that I can't perceive or understand with current level of my consciousness. And when I can't perceive it, I can't interact with it, leaving it to the consciousless (unconditional) part of myself. I think that these unconditional actions are the subject of one scenario (one matrix). The purpose of composite being is to donate energy to this matrix, doesn't matter how, but the result will be an integration of individual particles from chaos.