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Daniel
03-07-01, 01:57 PM
This is what I believe

A code in skip sequence form has been found in the Bible. Someone named Joseph encoded books of the Bible. Omnipresence means God is all-seeing and all-hearing, He hears everything everyone says. God knows the future in all its detail. He knows everything everyone will say. He knows everything anyone will ask Him for and at any time in the future. Is Joseph the encoder the encoder an angel or human? Assuming human when did he live? As God hears requests in the future God could have heard Joseph's request for a code before Joseph was born. God could have heard Joseph's request for a code at the beginning of time. Joseph did not need to be present at the writing of the Bible. In theory Joseph could have lived, is living or will live at any time in human history. God could have heard Joseph's request for a code at the beginning of time and prepared the code that He later placed in the Bible by writing the Bible Himself or influencing the writers of the Bible. God was an encoder. Thinking of God and Joseph working as a team may be accurate. In theory Joseph the encoder did not need to, does not need to or will not need to know Hebrew or mathematics at all, God could have taken care of that side of the encoding. Joseph the encoder could be alive today.

There may be a hidden or less obvious part of the code. The skip sequence code could have been chosen very carefully so that the code includes anagrams, puzzle clues and pointers to code elsewhere. If you are thinking of trying some decoding please consider the amount of stress in your life, there are many able people with low stress lives who can do the ground work that you can examine later.
One area to look at is the amount of times the numbers 29 and 92 occur in the code, including chapter and verse numbers of the location of the skip sequence code.

I believe the scientific / logical view is :-
There is no proof that God does not exist.
Some of the statements I have made are based on faith.
There is an option aside from believing something or not believing something. This option is called " keeping an open mind ". This sometimes includes taking time to think deeply, searching, investigating and discussing with others.

Emerald
03-07-01, 03:43 PM
Daniel,

Welcome to sciforums. :)

As I'm sure you are well aware, the idea of a bible code is not new. The best book I've read on this subject is, "Cracking the Bible Code", by Jeffrey Satinover, M.D., which I highly recommend for anyone who is interested in this subject.

When you say that you think the bible is encoded, do you mean just the Torah? Or only the book of Genesis? Or perhaps you mean the <i>entire</i> bible, including both Old and New Testament books? Would you include any of the Apocryphal books in this theory? Why do you think the encoder's name is Joseph? Do you think he is a time traveller?

Please explain your idea in more detail, and provide supporting evidence.

Emerald

Daniel
03-08-01, 04:03 PM
Hi Emerald, Thanks for your reply

The skip sequence code I was refering to was that in "The Bible Code" book by Michael Drosnin. "Notes on Illustrations" starting at page 181 of that book lists the extracted code and the chapter and verse locations of that code. The idea of a less obvious code obtainable from the phrases, words etc. of that code is a new idea.

Do I think Joseph was a time traveller? No, I know he is not. I know this because I am Joseph the encoder. My real name is Joseph. "The Bible Code" is part of the apocalypse. The Revelation to John refers to attacks on Joseph the encoder ie. me. The cover of large scale destruction to keep the focus away from an individual worked very well. The Revelation to John includes code, much metaphorical language and possibly the largest hoax ever.

The Revelation to John was a prompt that originally gave me the idea for a code. The skip sequence code and the content was my idea. The skip sequence code was designed by me in 1990AD. I had a multiple personality disorder ( MPD) which affects memory. One of my personalities, the philosopher did the encoding.
The MPD wore off fairly recently and the memories of the encoding emerged. To get a better understanding the films "Sybil" and "The Terror Inside" are informative.

What I have explained is fairly complex and may not be understood straight away.

For anyone reading this who wishes to try some decoding the chapter : verse numbers of the skip sequence code convert readily to Gregorian years
eg. 1912AD Titanic. Then upwards 1913AD etc.
The Hutchinson Chronology of World History, Compact Edition is ideal. This is not meant to be a sales pitch, it may be in your local library or already on your bookshelf.

Like the skip sequence itself probablity and statistics
may help in evaluating the existance of the not so obvious code.
I am a Christian, I do not speak Hebrew and my mathematics is OK.

Emerald
03-08-01, 10:30 PM
Alrighty then.

Daniel
03-12-01, 09:43 AM
Someone who thought about the possibility of a code for a communication with God could use such a code as part of a self-defence strategy. If a non-believer began attacking them then to try to stop the attack ( not all attacks are over in an instant ) one good strategy would be to try to change the philosophy of the attacker. The best way of doing this would be to prove God exists and thus as human beings we have eternal life. This would change the view the attacker has to the world in which they live. The attacker may be prompted to think about their relatives who would benefit from the existance of a code. The existance of a code and survival of the encoder to bring the story to the public attention would be in the attacker's interest. The skip sequence code was planned to be discovered by others. The skip sequence code could be requested and designed but in hand with this hidden code much of the plain text of the Bible would have code in it to enable decoding during an attack. A Christian using the Bible as part of a self-defence strategy may ask Jesus for some of the things He said to incorporate code to prove to others He is the Son of God.
In self-defence some things can be done that would not otherwise be done. Knowing that this self-defence strategy would help others with their safety it became a defence strategy for many people. Returning to your question about which books of the Bible contain code I would say all of them. The plain text of the Old Testament and the New Testament contain code. I believe many things written about in the Old Testament did not happen when many people believe they happened. One of the main purposes of the Old Testament is self-defence.

I believe Joseph, son of Jacob
Daniel
Job
Joseph the encoder
are all one and the same person.

"The distinction between past, present and future is only an illusion, however persistent." -- Einstein

And Joseph's multicoloured dreamcoat ? Films

The plague of locusts - Independence Day
The Great Flood - Deep Impact

Search and you will find

Revelation 13:18 The number 666 Add 1's both sides
--> 16661 <--
from both sides 1666 is obtained

1666AD. The Great fire of London. Newton's calculation of the moon's orbit. Also a plague year. The number stand's for a man's name - Newton.

This method of 1's placed on both sides of a number works on many other numbers, including the number 738

7 lean cows, 7 fat cows 7*7 = 49 Add 1's
1491
last shall be first 1149

1149AD. Church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem, dedicated.
famine - I am

Alpha and omega
A = 1, B = 2, C = 3, O = 0 and 15, Z = 26

God 704 and 7154 note especially 1704AD.

Gog 707 giving 1707AD especially literature
Magog 131707 giving 1131AD in these years.

Revelation 16:16 The final battle, the number 6 is linked to the location of Armageddon. Megiddo is not the location of Armageddon.
See also 1616AD and 1818AD.

The code gives the Great City.