So the German Minister of Foreign Affairs mouthed off about how the "U.S. is a police state!" What an idiot. http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_775608.html?menu=news.quirkies.unlucky More neo-communists at work. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I just have to roll my eyes at some countries. The old saying "a pot shouldnt call a kettle black" applies here. Us a police state? Not while people are aloud to insult Bush and the government every third step. Today I saw an anarchist symbol and two anti-bush statements on bumper stickers. On tv I saw a bunch of comedians and talk show hosts make fun of bush, the government, and the police. During the last war we let protests go on just about everywhere. When those are gone they can start accusing us of being a police state.
well, i guess the arguemnt is more of, the US has the potential to become a police state, what with national propaganda/FOXNEWs and the SS/Dept.ofHomelandSecurity, our rights are seriously being put into question... And i know im not the only one whos at least a Little Bit frightened
Not any time soon. Fox takes the pro-whitehouse view because it currently gets the best ratings. Things will change around election time and they will help both sides with the mud slinging.
I do not know the context of this quote, but i do know that the term "police state" in my own language can also refer to a government which puts most of its efforts in defense and security, as opposed to a government which takes on a broader role of maintaining social welfare and influencing economy. It does not imply that there is no freedom of speech in such a definition of "police state". I think we are missing some context in the article as well. Voicing your opinion is not illegal in Germany.
oh yeah ,and you are so smart ,jerk...... you don´t know this man ,otherwise you wouldn´t claim such BS Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! oh boy ,you just have to love this man Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
hey Jerrek , just because the Germans are saying so , doesnt mean it ISNT true as much as it doesnt mean it IS . I dont know about the entire USA , but certain cities are simply police cities if you are of a certain ethnical group living in certain ethnical blocks . Take NYC for example .......
and just WHAT areas of NYC make it feel like a police state? i remember reading some time ago a post ab how the US border isnt childproof; i dont think this "police state" is policing hard enough! on the other hand i understand how well public schools would fit that term. then there's this policy of policing the globe started by Roosevelt; however, it is more imperialist, as opposed to finding some criminals.
many of your schools need policemen ,doesn´t that say a lot ? learning must be fun with this conditions Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
QB , the Lefraq Projects , the Bronx and large parts of Brooklyn (no not Boroughpark) . After Giuliano got in things quite changed down there . lol , another arch-enemy we have here . As far a policing the globe , I dont think thats any discussion is it ?
I LIVE IN BROOKLYN FOR 6 YRS! and where have you been? again, in public schools yes, across the street from public schools and off to wherever- NO! if you only knew how much goes on. yes there are police stations, but I DONT SEE A COP ONE BLOCK AWAY AND OFF FROM EACH POLICE STATION! as for Bronx, just bc we have our news teams living there it doesnt mean its a police state.
congratiulations , ever visited bedford ? lol , swaziland Are you serious claling authority just because u live in NYC ? Im sure I know things about NYC u havent even heard about , did u know for instance that amongst the black youth NYC is divided in MidEast places , u got Syria , Iraq , Kuweit etc . Bet u didnt know that mister New Yorker for 6 years . LMAO , even Giuliani doesnt agree with you on this one bud . Maybe they're not on your block , but they are on plenty . They dont live there mister , they just drop in to beat peoples up and to make racial arrests . Here's a nice article (ps source-refutation is considered uneducated) http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/sr212/usletter.htm R u considered a potential problem ? Man there are blocks in NYC where u shit ur pants just walking through . The thing is we seem to have a different understanding of police state . See the term depends on your ethnicity and location . Im not claiming there is police on every corner of the street , Im saying police activity (till the point u could say police activity makes the neighbourhood) , depends on things . Im sure ur not considered problematic by the police . I have only one thing to ask of you . WHAT ABOUT THE PROJECTS ?
The thing is we seem to have a different understanding of police state . See the term depends on your ethnicity and location . No, the term depends on whether or not you’re a criminal. You’ve made it no secret that you’re mindset is to prefer activities that are criminal in nature, but to you are perfectly acceptable. It’s easy to see why you would consider anywhere that considers your actions detrimental a police state. Im not claiming there is police on every corner of the street , Im saying police activity (till the point u could say police activity makes the neighbourhood) , depends on things . Again, if you’re only interested in criminal activities, then you’re most likely to become very aware of police and their activities in that they impede on your activities.
I think ur a criminal for STALKING ME all the damn time Q , get a life u obsessed semi-dead gulf-veteran . Its not my fault they left u out in the snow , does this bring back old trauma's pops ? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I don't think the US is a police state, that is a strecth, I live across the border and we do hear things. I remember watching CBC news and a person was talking about GWB and how stupid he is, and he said that in the US once he began to bash GWB he was told in his IFB that he should stop! So many Americans come here and say the same thing. Tells you something and FOXNEWS isn't that the same channel that had Geraldo pin-pointing his location in Iraq and telling the Iraqi's their next moves LOL!
can somebody tell me please if the following is true : democratic people were protesting against the goverment ! they got arrested ! ok ,let´s say they did "criminal acts".... but why the hell couldn´t they vote when it was election day ? no fiction ,i saw an american documentary about it edit : hehe ,i was a bit wrong..... but this even makes the more worse ! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! everybody in florida with a "criminal past" couldn´t vote ! this means if you have problems with the police ,you can´t decide your goverment Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! police state................. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
ok, i never claimed authority, that was personally your (AM) expression. in the 6 yrs that ive been here, yes, i did notice divisions in black youth.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! the projects are rather close to where i live, i have seen them.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! i know areas where there are gunshots every night. in my area some psycho burns the garbage can once a week in the same building. (LOL) and once a month somebody trashes a car, alsways on the same block (LOL) and lets also mention the illegal activities of people who arent black, that really dont get noticed. also very close to my house. i never said police was not racist, there are plenty of racist people of all races and positions all over US. no im not a problem, but i know plenty of people who arePlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! and guess what.... the man said US is a police state, not NYC, so please do consult other people too. people w criminal past can not vote, thats not news. also, give name of documentary (personal interest). i think US is not a police state. It covers its business with righteous-sounding words. What country doesnt? AM, to what ethnicity do you think i belong?
The US is not yet a police-state(like Chile under Pinochet) but it is definitely heading in that direction fast. The fact that a lot of people get away with crimes in no way proves that this is not a police state. We are definitely seeing a criminalizaton of dissent and removal of due-process rules. At demonstrations police are getting more and more out of hand, its now common practice for them to attack people at these events for little or no reason and then have those people charged with "assaulting a police officer" Members of minorities in NYC have been experiencing a police state for some time. They are stopped, searched, watched, beaten, maced, or even murdered simply because of their race.
Wow....AM how can you comment on places you have never lived in....i have been in NY for 10 years. even you couldn't be this childish to make up facts about a city from reading upon it. Live here and tell me your definition on police state then. Yes there are racist cops here but only a few compared to many good cops. As for the high schools the poilce is there due to escalating violence related to gangs. They are there to protect people from these gangsters douche bags so inturn they are protecting people...hmmm seems like the definition of what police was made for to me. In the more urban areas in NYC police does make more rounds but you want to know something funny....there is less police in the most dangerous urban areas...yes... As for the projects you ask- what about them....yes bad things go on there and there is police there but again in low numbers due to low budget and cops just fearing for their lives in such a hostile enviroment. Also you asked wolf to walk in some of the dangerous streets of NYC which would make wolf crap his/her pants.........hehehe ok buddy you try taking the subway in NYC after 12:00 am and then get back to me on that. US isn't a police state...as much as you bashers would like to think so it isn't. Don't confuse your dislike of a certain nation with facts about that nation. Live in NYC and tell me how it is.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Members of minorities in NYC have been experiencing a police state for some time. They are stopped, searched, watched, beaten, maced, or even murdered simply because of their race. Please cite some references to back up those rather extraordinary claims.
