Thieving Arabs

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Vienna, May 5, 2003.

  1. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    Can the world stop blaming the British and the Americans for the fact that there are a load of thieving Arabs in Iraq?

    It is not the fault of the United States that Iraqis of all ages went on a looting spree in Baghdad, Basra and elsewhere.

    The American forces are not responsible for the wanton destruction of hospitals. The American forces are not to blame for the desecration of national museums. The marines did not ransack offices and banks. The Royal Irish Regiment did not steal from private homes.

    The Iraqis did all this. They stole from each other, destroyed their own communities. They probably caused more damage, certainly to the hospitals, than that inflicted by the war.

    It is the Iraqi looters who are the people without a sense of responsibility, who are lacking in conscience, who have no morals.
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2003
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  3. OH YEAH...........

    FOX JEWS are not only LIARS and BIASED, they are THEIVES AS WELL.

    FOX TV engineer charged with smuggling stolen Iraqi paintings, bonds

    By CURT ANDERSON
    The Associated Press
    4/23/03

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- A television news engineer faces smuggling charges after attempting to bring into the United States 12 stolen Iraqi paintings, monetary bonds and other items, federal officials said Wednesday.

    A criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Va., charges that Benjamin James Johnson, 27, tried to bring the paintings into this country last Thursday. They were contained in a large cardboard box that was examined by Customs agents at Dulles International Airport outside Washington.

    An affidavit filed with the criminal complaint says that Johnson, who accompanied U.S. troops in Baghdad, gathered up the paintings at a palace that belonged to Uday Hussein, one of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's sons. The paintings depict Saddam and Uday.

    Johnson, who initially told Customs officials he was given the paintings by Iraqi citizens, said he had planned to keep them "for decoration" and to provide one to his employer, the affidavit says. It is U.S. policy that all such items belong to the Iraqi people.

    Johnson worked for six years as a satellite truck engineer for Fox News Channel, which fired him after learning he had admitted to taking the paintings, a network statement said.

    "This is an unfortunate incident and his supervisor took the appropriate action for this transgression," the statement added.

    The case was one of several to be detailed later Wednesday by Customs officials, who have seized other Iraqi artworks, weapons and other materials people have tried to smuggle into this country.

    Museums, businesses, government offices and homes were widely looted in Baghdad after the fall of Saddam's regime. Among the items stolen were thousands of artworks and other antiquities, some thousands of years old, from Iraq's vast collections of items from Assyrian, Mesopotamian, Sumerian and other cultures.

    An examination of Johnson's luggage also turned up 40 Iraqi Monetary Bonds and a visitor's badge from the U.S. embassy in Kuwait. Johnson, who lives in Alexandria, Va., has not been arrested but is to appear before a federal magistrate next Tuesday.
     
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  5. SG-N Registered Senior Member

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    Vienna :

    ... that's false and stupid !
    Some Americans ransacked offices and stole money in banks too. You're talking about a country living in war time while saying that it's different in USA !!! Please shut up ! You would do the same ! You just fear the policemen... even if you don't see them, as you know that they are not so far away.
     
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  7. SG-N Registered Senior Member

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  8. EI_Sparks Registered Senior Member

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    Vienna,
    You going to point to the LA riots next and start a thread like "thieving blacks"???

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  9. alanH Registered Senior Member

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    Since when is "Johnson" a Jewish name?
     
  10. zanket Human Valued Senior Member

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    How do you know? This is the huge hole in your argument. There’s a reason police cannot strike in the US.
     
  11. zanket Human Valued Senior Member

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    I don’t see any related news stories about Birmingham, UK. No matter, police are considered an essential service in the US and many other “civilized” countries, for the reason that with no police a major city will likely free fall into chaos. Because of that police are not allowed to strike for even an hour. The Bush administration knew what would happen to Baghdad when they protected the oil fields instead. In a perfect world they’d be held accountable.
     
  12. zanket Human Valued Senior Member

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    You’re rationalizing. Try logic instead. Like, perhaps the world would prefer that Baghdad be as well protected as the oil fields are. See how easy it is?
     
  13. alanH Registered Senior Member

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    The oil fields were protected first out of the fear that they would be torched, and torched early. It made sense to protect them. I think they made some mistakes in Baghdad, not protecting the museum the height of them, but you're talking apples and oranges. There were no crowds to control or careful sorting out of friend or foe at the oil fields. Shall we say they are ignoring the oil fields now if more humanitarian aid is going to Baghdad?
     
  14. EI_Sparks Registered Senior Member

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    It is not my opinion. It is however, fact that during the LA riots, looting took place. If you are going to post a thread stating that one ethnic group are by nature thieves because looting took place during a period of serious political unrest or war, then you pretty much have to post a thread for every ethnic group that does the same thing.

    Now there's a right-wing attitude for you. "We'll create a mess and then complain that those that protest against creating the mess would be in serious trouble without us, because of that mess".
     
  15. zanket Human Valued Senior Member

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    It made sense to protect both. Apples and apples. It seems you’re implying the US could not have protected both. They could have, they just didn’t to save money.
     
  16. EI_Sparks Registered Senior Member

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    alanH - how do you rate the museum over hospitals? Or say that not defending the museum was a worse mistake than using cluster munitions on residential areas?
     
  17. alanH Registered Senior Member

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    zanket: you're going to say that securing the oil fields is the same thing as securing a city of 5 million, with combat going on and no way to know who was who right away?
     
  18. zanket Human Valued Senior Member

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    If “liberation” is spraying crowds with machine guns, then okay.
     
  19. alanH Registered Senior Member

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    That's not liberation-- that's an unfortunate example of the messiness that comes with liberation, particularly when you have combatants who hide behind civilians.
     
  20. zanket Human Valued Senior Member

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    No, I’m saying they were both doable.
     
  21. EI_Sparks Registered Senior Member

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    Actually most of those law-abiding british men lost their lives to those law-abiding american men, who happened to be overly trigger-happy. That's the same problem causing marines to fire mounted .50 cal machine guns into crowds because a 7-year-old threw a sandal at them...
     
  22. zanket Human Valued Senior Member

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    So if someone in an angry mob in Chicago fires a gun, the mob should be sprayed with machine guns? And that’s just necessary messiness?
     
  23. alanH Registered Senior Member

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    Sparks: do you have anything to back that statement?

    Zanket: easier said than done, I think. Though they should have protected the museum, I will say that.
     

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