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  1. N. Korea Has '300 Nukes' All Locked Onto American Cities

    NORTH Korea has up to 300 nuclear warheads, all locked onto American cities, the unofficial spokesman for North Korea has said.

    05/04/03: (News.com.Au) Kim Myong Chol, a Japanese-born Korean, said he was delivering a message on behalf of the North Korean government.
    "North Korea has a nuclear capability. It's quite obvious. North Korea may have minimum 100 nuclear warheads, maximum 300. They all lock onto American cities," he told the Nine Network's Sunday program.

    Kim denied North Korea had breached the agreement it made with then US president Bill Clinton in 1994.

    "No, no, North Korea produced all its weapons before that agreement was signed," he said.

    "If the US attacks North Korea, North Korea will definitely use those nuclear weapons against the US mainland."

    Kim warned the possible economic embargo by the US would also provoke the use of nuclear weapons.

    "North Korea will use those nuclear weapons against the US mainland if America imposes additional economic sanctions on North Korea," he said.

    Kim said the nuclear weapons had been tested for North Korea by Pakistan and they were now hidden underground.

    "America has no knowledge of where they are. The Pakistanis have done the (testing) job for North Korea," he said.

    The Sunday program reported it had spoken to the Pakistani High Commission which had denied the claim, saying it was "totally wrong".

    Kim said: "Of course, they must deny that".
     
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  3. Blindman Valued Senior Member

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    The North Koreans have a very small arsenal of nuclear weapons. These weapons are slightly lighter then the first bombs made by the USA. Only a few hundreds of kilograms in weight. Their rockets are puny little firecrackers. These rocket could reach the American mainland on the best circumstances (about 1 out of every 10) if carrying the minimum payload.. 20 or so KG

    It is South Korea that should fear.. That is if the North Korean bombs actually work…

    It is easy to build an atomic bomb.. To put one on top of a missile is a whole other matter…

    Don’t let the fear mongers fool you…
     
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  5. aghart Registered Senior Member

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    Maybe the North Korean government should spend more time trying to feed it's population than making childish threats, mine's bigger than yours. if they launched there nukes, they would not have anything left to try to make themselves look important with.
     
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  7. SG-N Registered Senior Member

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    Are you sure ? I mean that Iraq "had" WMD... so if North-Korea is said to have a "small" nuclear arsenal, I don't know if I have to fear big nuclear weapons (I guess so) or if I can keep cool... (in fact I can because I'm not american

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  8. SuperFudd Registered Senior Member

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    "NORTH Korea has up to 300 nuclear warheads, all locked onto American cities, the unofficial spokesman for North Korea has said. "

    It looks like Baghdad Bob has found new employment.

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  9. Coldrake Registered Senior Member

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    My thought exactly, Superfudd. If anybody actually believes that bluster...
     
  10. Allahs_Mathematics Mar'Ifah Ahl As-Suffah Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/east/10/17/nkorea.bomb/

    Whats 300 nukes ? peple throw around numbers about things they dont even know what they are . Whats a nuke ?

    I think that NKorea has quite some capability in damaging some big part of the west coast , and I do believe there is some amount for nuclear material , but lets be honest they dont match USA one bit . I do believe they got some nice rockets , I wouldnt see good relations for weapons in general with russia and china , and after the fall of the sovyet Im most sure they hijacked some nice uranium (or other interesting hijackable material) as did about everybody who had some power in the region .

    But what really wonders me about NK is the orwelian-aspect , most of the world is simply manipulated by their own ignorance , but here NK has everything in its hand , I wonder what life is like there . If its truly orwelian , Id be more concerned how crazy their army is (1M )

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    They have 22 M people , if they did a good job there total army at desperation would be at least 10M . Something like Iraq but totally crazy and heavily armed .

    Id worry a bit if I was USA ..............
     
  11. Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    90% of north korean soldiers are chinese and living in china. They have more soldiers than they have citizens.
    They are like the sacramento kings, the north korean "war team" is primarily imports.
    The chinese government say they are "on americas side" but 'china' is most definately not.
    The us could never invade and defeat north korea like they did iraq, BUT north korea could never hit america with a nuke.
    America wins when it comes to weapons but north korea wins when it comes to numbers. So if a ground war ever occurs I don't like americas chances.
    Of course, america knows this so a ground war will never happen, they are quite capable of defending their country from NK's missiles and have a better chance of hitting NK with their missiles if they feel the need.
    I would be surprised if this war ever happened for real.
     
  12. SG-N Registered Senior Member

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    US will not start a war against North Korea... and I think that North Korea is waiting for a better contexte (a big terrorisme wave for exemple) before destroying the "US devil".
     
  13. airavata portentous Registered Senior Member

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    i seriously doubt whether n.korea has mislles that can reach the american mainland. however if it comes to a final standoff, n.korea will not hesitate to use it's nukes. i mean what has it got to lose?
     
  14. SG-N Registered Senior Member

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    Nothing to lose...

    As I already said in an other thread, I saw their dictator/president on TV a few weeks ago. He said he would destroy USA even if North Korea would be destroyed too. In fact I think that he said "we will destroy" and not "we would destroy"...
     
  15. Coldrake Registered Senior Member

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    N Korea can't 'destroy' the US. It might inflict serious damage on US forces were the US to invade, but the N Koreans are not a threat to the US mainland.
     
  16. SG-N Registered Senior Member

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    It depend on what a "threat" mean for you...
    If you think about total destruction or invasion, so it's impossible but if you think about 5-10 big cities destroyed that's possible ! And in fact, that's enough to push the US economy in a really bad situation... "end game".

    (Note : I did no wish in this post, OK ?)
     
  17. Coldrake Registered Senior Member

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    OK.

    It depends on what you mean by destroying 5-10 US cities. If you're saying by missile strike, no, I don't think N Korea has that capability, despite their bold claims. If you're saying could they sneak in a nuke; very possible, though not 5-10. Much more difficult. However, I think the risk of the N Koreans selling one to a Middle Eastern terrorist group is a possibility, so it is easy to understand why the US considers the N Korean nuke program a significant problem. But the program should be and is a problem for the rest of Asia as well.
     
  18. Red Devil Born Again Athiest Registered Senior Member

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    Comical Ali is in new employment I see

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  19. bhudmaash Banned Banned

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    Blindman:

    What,...like the Bush Administration??
     
  20. SG-N Registered Senior Member

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    Coldrake :

    Well, you're right : they may not be able to do what they say (I don't know) but they could give nukes to terrorists if they want to use it against USA or US friends in M.E. ("follow my eyes...").
    They COULD do it, but WOULD they do it ? I don't think so because they should be sure that these nukes will be used in the "good way" (giving nukes to the CIA would not be the best).
     
  21. Allahs_Mathematics Mar'Ifah Ahl As-Suffah Registered Senior Member

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    I think for NK to have nukes be a problem because of the fact they might give some to Islamists (I believe that is meant with terrorists or we including FARC and such as well ?) .

    That is because Islamist can posses nukes without the help of a nation like NK . Already there is Islamist Iran , and besides that Nuke-Business goes through criminal paths , the Ukrainian criminal (illegal weapons-business) organizations and those in Russia are perfectly capable doing business with Arabs all by them selves . And then there still lies the possibility of nukes with the semi-socialist Arabs (Syria , but this is complex attached to Iraq and I dont know anymore) , the mere fact people dont like eachother doesnt mean they cannot share a common interest .

    I think a problem with NK having Nukes shouldnt be looked in the route of "terrorism".

    I dont think there even is any contact it is quite unlightly , I even see FARC-nukes business much more possible than the terrorists you all were speaking off (assumingly) . And how about Cuba , Venezuela and upcoming Brasil , I believe these movements could be consider potential NK allies especially if we have reached the stage of Nuking .

    If Islamism in the form of this post-Y2G terrorism can reach climaxes in clashing with USA , and not bring it down , I do believe a new communist offense in about 30-40 years might be quite assumable to happen .

    The question with such a situation lies with China , the driving force . I see them capitalizing , but is that really whats happening , or are they simply re-organizing their own possesions , as the capitalism does rise but not beyond the borders of state capitalism ? If China could be a driving force and eventual clash is almost unavoidable , especially with these crazy little states like Cuba and NK , and the growing support in South America .
     

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