Xeno
07-23-99, 10:09 PM
I am tired of moving from one discussion
to the other posting messages here and
there based on my opinistic views.
There are people here that thing I talk
shit. Why is that? Is it because my
views are different perhaps skeptic towards
yours? Obviously, that is the problem
here with some people. Here, I am not
going to put down anyone of discriminate
their views - only because they are
intitled to their opinions.
-----------------------------------------
First off,
I would like to say that what I talk about
here is not shit. I look at things in
perspective and go from there.
If you believe in things I don't,
then good; you can believe it for all
I care.
-----------------------------------------
Today, our topic will be of god and
the devil. However, because each
topic takes up a certain amount of
space on here, I will slit this post
into two sections
The first one will be about the devil
and the second one will be about god.
-----------------------------------------
1) The devil.
I devil is easier to explain than god
since god is far more complex and harder
to talk about.
I would like to know what people conceive
to devil to be. Being a christian,
I know that the devil is seen as
an invisible man; an evil being trying
to influence us to do evil.
Basically, that's how the christians
think. To most, it can't get any simpler;
the devil is just a very, very bad man
who's out to get you. Beware and resist
him, worship and prey to god, and
everything will be fine.
My way of thinking is different.
The scenario as I see it is totally
different. In truth, the devil does
not exist. There is no giant, two horned,
flaming red boogy man out to get you
when you step out of line by sin.
In truth, the ultimate evil in the
universe cannot be a man. It doesn't
make sense. Thoughts like that relate
back to the time when people thought
the universe revolved around earth
and that humans were absolute.
As for hell, I believe that it does exist,
but as for christian beliefs, my opinions
differ in many ways.
Hell is the state of sufferment whether
it be eternal or for a set amount of time.
When you suffer, feel pain in any physical
or emotional way, that is what you would
call living in a state of hell.
1) Eternal hell is not being put into
a furnace in a cavern deep underneath
the ground where you are burned forever
and stabbed by naked, two-horned, red
men using over-sized tridents.
Think of your soul being ripped out of
existence. Now take that further and
think of a constant state of non-existence
where you don't existence, nor will
you ever come to exist again.
Since we are all connected to god in
some way and can never be disconnected,
such a scenario is unlikely ever to
occour.
2) If you are being greatly ridiculed to
an existence where it hurts you emotionally,
that can be seen as a state of sufferment,
thus you would be in hell.
I now come to a close on what hell is
(in relation to my opinions).
I will discuss this later as I talk
more and more, but not at this momment.
--------------------------------------------
2) What is god?
That is the old-age question that has
remained unanswered for countless centuries.
What is God?
Again, being a christian, I know how
christian thinking works. The bible
tells that a man created adam and eve
which were banished from the eternal
garden of eden and put onto this earth
to live out their lives in sufferment.
If you wanna relate back to my statement
of hell, this would mean that they were
cast out into hell for disobeying god.
That in a sense plays somewhat in relation
to the bible's views of hell.
My opinions on this matter are different.
Although I am a christian, I find it
extremely hard to believe that the
highest, evolved, ultimate form of the
universe is a planetary-sized deep-voiced
man with a beard. In my opinion, he
looks much like Neptune, roman god of
the sea does he not.
Christians actually say that no one knows
that god looks like yet they call him
names such as "Lord," and "Father."
Infact, I have never met a christian that
hasn't used the pronoun fixations,
"He," and "Him." Christians do not know
if god is a man, yet they assume that
he is. Infact, they back this all up
with quotes such as "Man was created
in God's image."
In truth, that seals the fact that the
bible is ignorant in its own way;
it relates back to the times when men
dominated, and women had no rights."
Though people may not recognize it,
the bible indirectly states that the
universe revolves around earth and
that humans are absolute.
That is what I would call 3rd dimension
thinking.
My perspectives lie somewhat in the
5th dimension and 4th dimension;
I think that way on that level.
I have to end this now, but I will
continue it later.
I'm sorry, but it's taken me an hour
to write this and my brother needs
to go on to do his homepage.
-Dan
to the other posting messages here and
there based on my opinistic views.
There are people here that thing I talk
shit. Why is that? Is it because my
views are different perhaps skeptic towards
yours? Obviously, that is the problem
here with some people. Here, I am not
going to put down anyone of discriminate
their views - only because they are
intitled to their opinions.
-----------------------------------------
First off,
I would like to say that what I talk about
here is not shit. I look at things in
perspective and go from there.
If you believe in things I don't,
then good; you can believe it for all
I care.
-----------------------------------------
Today, our topic will be of god and
the devil. However, because each
topic takes up a certain amount of
space on here, I will slit this post
into two sections
The first one will be about the devil
and the second one will be about god.
-----------------------------------------
1) The devil.
I devil is easier to explain than god
since god is far more complex and harder
to talk about.
I would like to know what people conceive
to devil to be. Being a christian,
I know that the devil is seen as
an invisible man; an evil being trying
to influence us to do evil.
Basically, that's how the christians
think. To most, it can't get any simpler;
the devil is just a very, very bad man
who's out to get you. Beware and resist
him, worship and prey to god, and
everything will be fine.
My way of thinking is different.
The scenario as I see it is totally
different. In truth, the devil does
not exist. There is no giant, two horned,
flaming red boogy man out to get you
when you step out of line by sin.
In truth, the ultimate evil in the
universe cannot be a man. It doesn't
make sense. Thoughts like that relate
back to the time when people thought
the universe revolved around earth
and that humans were absolute.
As for hell, I believe that it does exist,
but as for christian beliefs, my opinions
differ in many ways.
Hell is the state of sufferment whether
it be eternal or for a set amount of time.
When you suffer, feel pain in any physical
or emotional way, that is what you would
call living in a state of hell.
1) Eternal hell is not being put into
a furnace in a cavern deep underneath
the ground where you are burned forever
and stabbed by naked, two-horned, red
men using over-sized tridents.
Think of your soul being ripped out of
existence. Now take that further and
think of a constant state of non-existence
where you don't existence, nor will
you ever come to exist again.
Since we are all connected to god in
some way and can never be disconnected,
such a scenario is unlikely ever to
occour.
2) If you are being greatly ridiculed to
an existence where it hurts you emotionally,
that can be seen as a state of sufferment,
thus you would be in hell.
I now come to a close on what hell is
(in relation to my opinions).
I will discuss this later as I talk
more and more, but not at this momment.
--------------------------------------------
2) What is god?
That is the old-age question that has
remained unanswered for countless centuries.
What is God?
Again, being a christian, I know how
christian thinking works. The bible
tells that a man created adam and eve
which were banished from the eternal
garden of eden and put onto this earth
to live out their lives in sufferment.
If you wanna relate back to my statement
of hell, this would mean that they were
cast out into hell for disobeying god.
That in a sense plays somewhat in relation
to the bible's views of hell.
My opinions on this matter are different.
Although I am a christian, I find it
extremely hard to believe that the
highest, evolved, ultimate form of the
universe is a planetary-sized deep-voiced
man with a beard. In my opinion, he
looks much like Neptune, roman god of
the sea does he not.
Christians actually say that no one knows
that god looks like yet they call him
names such as "Lord," and "Father."
Infact, I have never met a christian that
hasn't used the pronoun fixations,
"He," and "Him." Christians do not know
if god is a man, yet they assume that
he is. Infact, they back this all up
with quotes such as "Man was created
in God's image."
In truth, that seals the fact that the
bible is ignorant in its own way;
it relates back to the times when men
dominated, and women had no rights."
Though people may not recognize it,
the bible indirectly states that the
universe revolves around earth and
that humans are absolute.
That is what I would call 3rd dimension
thinking.
My perspectives lie somewhat in the
5th dimension and 4th dimension;
I think that way on that level.
I have to end this now, but I will
continue it later.
I'm sorry, but it's taken me an hour
to write this and my brother needs
to go on to do his homepage.
-Dan